# P89 and P81, An Observation **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 18, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-and-p81-an-observation/25046 "2009-01-18T19:53:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-and-p81-an-observation/25046/2 "2009-01-19T12:07:01Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > There hasn’t been much posted about P89. [Tacitus writes about an experience combining P81 and P89:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-novel-p81-p89-experience/1705) > > I think some of the “physically very solid” feelings Tacitus describes might be attributed to P81, but the sense of a “settled relationship,” of having “coexisted through thick and thin” and “solid sense of being with each other” seem like a valuable contribution, if I could get P89 to deliver that kind of mood. > > I tried adding P89 to my own sensuality mix to see what the self effects woud be like. It seemed to distract from sensuality. Maybe I like “spacey romance” and “pink clouds” too much. I don’t plan to pursue that application of P89. I also noticed some subtle visual effects. It seemed to increase tunnel vision (or, at least, _decrease_ peripheral awareness) and increase contrast. > > I decided to wear 30mcg P89 when I went out to run errands. I had to take my kid to the orthodontist, buy some groceries and pick up some packages. I did get that solid sense of being together with people. People were not chatty. None of this “How are you? How’s the family? That’s a nice tie you’re wearing” stuff. None of that at all. Directly to the tasks at hand – as though the preliminaries, the small talk, the rapport building had been finished with long ago. This was a very American pheromone – right down to business, but in a cordial way. If A314 is “Tell me what to do” and P106 is “How can I help you” then P89 is “Let’s roll.” People seemed to treat me as a well respected equal. Intentions were more task oriented than personal. > > The dental receptionist went to some effort to get me the next appointment time I wanted. The lady giving away free samples at the market relayed much helpful info about the product and enquired whether my son wanted some. The young man at the mail delivery service, immeditely upon seeing me, came out from behind the desk to bring a package over to where I was standing – without saying much at all. My attempts at humor were met with amusement, but not elaborated upon. Conversations were, direct, detailed and not very personal – task oriented. > > When I got home, the TV was filled with pictures of that USAirways A320 floating in the Hudson River. That’s when I knew what P89 was. P89 is the pheromone I want the pilot, crew, passengers and rescuers to be wearing in that kind of situation! Care enough to save people’s lives without having to waste time getting to know them or reestablishing rapport. Confidence, trust and execution. Good report as usual W! P89 puts people in a task focused mindset, cool. Sounds somewhat a little like P93 then. Any differences in the task-focused mindsets between the two molecules you can discern? I’m thinking P93 has nice additional extras (like lots of smiles from caucasians/blondes and moments of bonding at times). You say that “[P89] seemed to increase tunnel vision (or, at least, _decrease_ peripheral awareness) and increase contrast.” That’s interesting because people were reporting something visual with P93 as well (see below). If anything, I would have expected P93 to be all about ‘tunnel vision’ but that’s not the exactly what it seems to do… > [@Concenus: Is P93 better than Instant Female Magic?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/17): > > I’ve always used 2 sprays @25mcg and usually later in the day I would top it up with 1 more spray of 25mcg. It seems to be working as long as I have it on as I can tell from my targets when Im talking, if the eye contact drops then I top it up thats when I know somethings changed or wrong, when I have p93 on you can gage your targets they look at you differently then normal as if your not there sometimes or they sometimes dont look you directly in your eyes more like your nose or mouth normal … [link not found] Jasx69 (May 10, 2008): “…I’ve always used 2 sprays @25mcg and usually later in the day I would top it up with 1 more spray of 25mcg. It seems to be working as long as I have it on as I can tell from my targets when Im talking, if the eye contact drops then I top it up thats when I know somethings changed or wrong, **when I have p93 on you can gage your targets they look at you differently then normal as if your not there sometimes or they sometimes dont look you directly in your eyes more like your nose or mouth normal people just look away without p93 with p93 they are still focused on your face but they move around your face quite abit quite erratic.** But no more then 3 sprays of 25mcg a day.” [Me, Me and P93](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/me-me-and-p93/2788/3) Nunya (March 28, 2007): “… So anyways - 3 hours in, and I’m still feeling pretty upbeat with the p93. **it also seems to be giving me that “panfocus” that people talk about with TAF. I feel like i’m noticing everything, but not really distracted by it. MAtter of fact, i enjoy it. Lot’s of clarity.** And lots of smiles from coworkers and such. The compliments are still coming and going. i am wearing a striking outfit today, so that’s most likely why they are coming - but i still feel quite comfortable giving them. perhaps because i’m actually noticing things. hee hee.” [First impressions of P93](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-impressions-of-p93/22758) ntk23 (November 2008): " First impressions of P93 I received my P93 (as well as P83 , experimone -none and TAL … and a free to-go of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) ! ) today. So I had a go of the P93 this evening, not doing anything vastly out of the ordinary but a quick trip down the pub and then to visit a friend. I sprayed 30mcg to the general neck area, and took some of the liquid and wiped it on my top lip to get a good noseful. Well, I was very upbeat and happy. I mean obviously there was the exhilarating “OMG I’ve got new toys to play with!” effect, but as time went on I was still finding myself insanely happy and wanting to laugh at anything. OK, the most pronounced self-effects were \*\*- something odd that it did to my visual field… it is like it was more focused centrally, but (and weirdly) not to the detriment of my peripheral vision. It was like there was a clear demarcation between foveal and parafoveal vision, but both worked just as well… yeah, kind of strange. - to go with this visual focus there was a pressure I felt at the front of my brain. But it wasn’t uncomfortable, by any means.\*\* These two aspects subsided to a “background level” after about an hour. I was still in a silly mood and just thought everything was funny There is something I found a bit P74 -ish about it as well. P93 also seems like a flexible molecule. But where I found P74 could morph from fun, almost androstenol -ish to androsterone-ish, P93 seems to morph from androstenol-ish to androstenone-ish. I was getting horny as I was talking to a couple of MILFs down the pub. I know them and they’re both married so I wasn’t going to try anything on… but it was quite surprising how that kicked in all of a sudden. But it’s not as caveman-like as -none, it still seems to retain a playful vibe even when it turns sexual like that. Oh yeah, and one maybe noteworthy thing. I got a chocolate bar on my way to my friend’s house, and I just ate a bit of it and saved the rest for later, rather than scoffing the lot like a greedy pig - which is what I’d usually do. Well, it was pretty atypical. Effects on others: Well, everyone was pleased to see me and had fun… whether it was a direct result of P93 or an indirect result because I was so happy from the self-effects, only further testing will tell." --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-and-p81-an-observation/25046)._