# P89 - Testing results, very intresting for me. **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 17, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020 "2010-12-17T15:10:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/1 "2010-12-17T15:10:35Z")
HAve tested with 1 and 2 sprays with very suttle effects. have increased the dose to understand it. will go back now to smaller dose & will observe again. **Testing product/ scent/strength/application point** P89 – 3 sprays neroli 10mcg/s neck sides & throat * * * **Cover scent/own perfume** Spicy & amber based fragrence * * * **Temperature** 20-23 c * * * **Testing location/environment/ circumstance** Inside office, open hall with work stations/separate cabins open * * * **Reaction time after application** 20-30 mins I felt change in mood. **Distance/ space when got hits** * * * * * * **Normal behavior of respondents** * * * **Self mood before testing** I was in normal mood, thinking, and heavy thoughts. * * * **Self effects after** After 30 mins or so, I felt as if all those thoughts are going away. Initially I felt as if I am feeling light and those thinking patterns are going away. i was humming for a short while. I tried to go back on those but I couldn’t. I thought its office atmosphere but it was not. I felt as if something has confided me into something and am not bothered by surroundings. There was some fixity in my thinking but that was light. Kind of relaxing from botheration. Lack of awareness about surrounding thoughts, which comes along with the main subject. I felt things are not affecting me negatively and I was ok with straight & light mode of feeling & thinking. my world was shrunk. i was bothered about things that makes sense. \*\*no nonsense or unreasonable worries were disturbing.(\*\*If it can do this, i am gonna love it so much). it made me feel united within. **Effect/change in others** I just felt people were not coming close but were comfortable. One female was kind of aloof. * * * **Hits/ behavior displayed** I havnt seen much hits, more of self effects. * * * **Duration of efficacy of product** Those feelings lasted throughout the day, even in evening. Apprx 8 hrs.😮 ( long lasting) * * * **Reapplication/if any** NA * * * **Mixing effects** NA * * * **Detail report** NA * * * **summary** * * * **In the night i felt very agreesive & in a fighting mood. (actually i did some 😠 )i want to understand was it this putative or possibly my Bp shoot up?? pls advise . will do the self testing for sure, but need inputs from those who have experienced it.** * * * * * * ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/2 "2010-12-17T20:38:11Z")
Welcome back Anna Don’t think I didn’t notice you were MIA for a few days now. I see you came back with a bang testing your P’s. P89 is not one I have tested personally and have not seen many reports from the ladies so I am very interested in the results you get from testing this for a few days hopefully a week. ---
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/3 "2010-12-20T18:34:10Z")
> [@kelsey](#): > > Welcome back Anna > > Don’t think I didn’t notice you were MIA for a few days now. I see you came back with a bang testing your P’s. > > P89 is not one I have tested personally and have not seen many reports from the ladies so I am very interested in the results you get from testing this for a few days hopefully a week. Hi MICK, What is MIA(missing …??) you all puzzle me with this stuff. Alpha did it to me tooooo… Oh so its you who is keepin eye on me biggy butt…😃 . Will be doing testing 😮😃 of all my P’s & will keep you posted. dont worry. i dont want to get beaten up cos of any product thats all. i am also not looking much on the already posted results just read once to order. now not brushing up the knowledge much to have my own results.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/4 "2010-12-21T05:21:04Z")
M.I.A. = Missing in Action (originally a military term). I can relate to much of your P89 experience. I have not experienced the aggressive/fighting effect from P89. In fact, it seems almost the opposite of P89, in my experience. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/5 "2010-12-21T18:25:25Z")
At 20mcg it amplifies my sense of taste. Almost everything taste better… P89 with P102 is a great combo to gain quite a lot of weight… Christmas time… 😃😛 ---
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/6 "2010-12-21T19:02:13Z")
> [@JohnnyHard](#): > > At 20mcg it amplifies my sense of taste. Almost everything taste better… P89 with P102 is a great combo to gain quite a lot of weight… Christmas time… 😃😛 Oh then this combo is not for me. i love to be in shape. 😛😃🙄 but i dont mind having some Cristmas cake. are you sending some my way.😉 but surly will see if it does that. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/7 "2010-12-23T00:58:27Z")
> [@JohnnyHard](#): > > At 20mcg it amplifies my sense of taste. Almost everything taste better… P89 with P102 is a great combo to gain quite a lot of weight… Christmas time… 😃😛 Some of us actually want to loose weight dude. Try like 20lbs. Do you know which [pheromone](https://a314.com/) does that or at least helps in that area? ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/8 "2010-12-23T02:01:31Z")
I´ve noticed as well that P89 is a gustatory enhancer ! especially food and drinks taste better which are more into the defty section … take care of the christmas goose ! I really like black coffee with a bit sugar and WOW with 10mcg P89 it becomes something very special .. I havent noticed this gustatory enhancement that strong with cake for example .. The gustatory enhancement is a bit stronger compared to the effects i get from TAF at 50mcg .. Next thing i´ve noticed that P89 makes me super attentive and i become very charming … opening doors is something that feels so natural with P89 .. it brings out the Gentleman in me. Really interesting is that whilst wearing P89 all things i did were really flowing and and everything i had to do was an easy thing … I think it was described in an elder post about P89 that P89 is … keep things rolling ! P89 has definately motivating qualities ! Most important effect with P89 is that it affects the way you view yourself and hightens self acceptance … i am how i am and it´s o.k. … !! It really gives you a more positive self view ! Anna describes it in her initial post as well .. What i´ve noticed as well is that women seem to become a little bit pissed of if i go over 10mcg with the dosage Way more testing is needed Pago ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/9 "2010-12-29T14:29:18Z")
I´ve followed the paths of Warren and tested P81 20mcg with P89 20mcg together with TheEdge and noticed some special attraction as well … this does definately create some kind of arousal in women ! Will look more into this … this needs to be tested out ! P89 in a mix does it make hard to concentrate on learning some things or reading a book ! The motivating effect seems to work on others as well and i think P89 could help to get things going at a team as everbody wants to get things going and there is really the feeling to waste to much time … it makes me really goal orientated and i talk less at the Gym with others … Pago ---
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/10 "2010-12-29T17:09:29Z")
> [@Pagodeiro](#): > > I´ve followed the paths of Warren and tested > > P81 20mcg with P89 20mcg together with TheEdge and noticed some special attraction as well … this does definately create some kind of arousal in women ! > Will look more into this … this needs to be tested out ! > > P89 in a mix does it make hard to concentrate on learning some things or reading a book ! > > The motivating effect seems to work on others as well and i think P89 could help to get things going at a team as everbody wants to get things going and there is really the feeling to waste to much time … > it makes me really goal orientated and i talk less at the Gym with others … > > Pago Hi Pago, I too did this testing 5 days ago. reporting today… **Testing product/ scent/strength/application point** IS – 2 sprays neroli 10mcg/s behind ears [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) – 2 sprays neroli 10mcg/s neck P81 – 2 sprays neroli 10mcg/s in neck P89 - 2 sprays neroli 10mcg/s in front neck **Cover scent/own perfume** Yes **Temperature** 18-20 c **Testing location/environment/ circumstance** Hall in office apprx 24\*36feet. **Reaction time after application** Within 10 mins. * * * **Distance/ space when got hits** Very close, aprrx 1-2 feet. * * * **Normal behavior of respondents** Not in normal talking terms, if talk ever end up in conflict or fight holding back good thoughts & keep conversations very formal. * * * **Self mood before testing** I had to meet this guy for imp meeting which he was resisting for last 2-3 months due to conflicts. So, I was nervous of what will happen this time. I was preparing myself for the meeting & so as not to end up in conflict again. * * * **Self effects after** I felt light.(P74) I was more accepting of myself as I am(P89). It was cool.(p89) All the unwanted thoughts stopped coming to my mind.(P89) There felt grounded as if nothing can’t shake me up from this foundation I am presently in. There was a strong sense of composure in me. All the negative thoughts & images of this person were not coming at all. That moment was a clean slate, where anything new can be written. More attention & focus, something like lets go….. * * * **Effect/change in others** No one else got exposed. I sprayed in the room just before meeting. * * * **Hits/ behavior displayed** We instantly started talking on the important matters. If anyone deviated the other took it very positively as if not bothered by it & quickly came back to the point again. We made bad remarks to each other but still there was sense of serenity & healthy feeling (at least in me so I took it light, not get affected by it, & within minutes as if I have forgotten it completely). There was no dwelling on past, which we do for sure every time. Definitely mone contribution. We kept talking at length. If one went out of track other brought it back to the point quickly, without wasting time. There was some kind foot hold in me at least, as if no shake up can happen to my present foundation. There was a strong sense of composure in me. The whole conversation had some kind of automatic flow in it. I checked out this guy many times & even openly remarked about his body. **Duration of efficacy of product** Apprx. 5-6 hrs. * * * **Reapplication/if any** NA * * * **Mixing effects** I have tested these P’s separately. But this mix looks very promising for relationships. **Detail report** Have given. * * * **Summary** It can give depth, understanding, composure, affirmative, encouraging, frivolous & tranquil/serene feeling to togetherness. It enhances flow, focus, clarity & acceptance. This mix feels like covering both the opposite ends in a relationship at the same time. Like- playfulness/ seriosness – it gives both at the same time. space to other & hold ur own space to yourself. I think it’s a good mix that can be tried again & again to see its consistency. * * * **For me its actually changing the meaning of togetherness.** * * * ---
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/11 "2010-12-29T17:17:23Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > M.I.A. = Missing in Action (originally a military term). > > I can relate to much of your P89 experience. I have not experienced the aggressive/fighting effect from P89. In fact, it seems almost the opposite of P89, in my experience. Hi Warren, Pls read the report. this is what i felt with this mix. do u see anything in common. Any sugesstions for some more testings… ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/12 "2010-12-30T21:47:31Z")
I think that Annawithmones and Pagodeiro have probably read most of these posts, but, for anyone joining the discussion, let me give some explicit links to relevant P81 and P89 posts from other threads: > [@Experimenting with P81](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimenting-with-p81/34901/1): > > I have been experimenting with P81 on and off for about a year and a half now. I haven’t written much about it because, frankly, I did not much like it at first. Here is [one of my early observations](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-in-p99-and-p81/12439/11): P81 and aggression I have been experimenting recently with P81 in the 20-40mcg range. [Elsewhere](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812) I have used P81 at 2.5mcg to add a bit of focus & depth to a softer formula, but a more complete dose of P81 used alone or with other [pheromones](https://a314.com/) has a very different and profound effect on one’s per… > [@Pushing someone over the edge with P81 + P83?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/33): > > Well, P81 is definitely an erection-maker!(20 mcg added to the brew) Last Saturday at the gig got hugged from behind between the 1st & 2nd set & there it was hitting me in the ass. He was a little embarrassed when he realized that I felt it, so I did the only thing I could do to let him know that I was quite alright with it. I grabbed him, pulled him close to me & stuck my tongue down his throat slight_smile He responded very well. Unfortunately, I did not get to consummate the deal Satur… > [@P81 self test 75mcg](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p81-self-test-75mcg/33922/3): > > It is difficult for me to put my P81 experiences into words, but they are consistent with what Six has described. The following ring true: Sometimes there’s an almost sadistic – sometimes reptilian – quality to P81. > [@P89 and P81, An Observation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-and-p81-an-observation/25046/1): > > There hasn’t been much posted about P89. [Tacitus writes about an experience combining P81 and P89:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-novel-p81-p89-experience/1705) I think some of the “physically very solid” feelings Tacitus describes might be attributed to P81, but the sense of a “settled relationship,” of having “coexisted through thick and thin” and “solid sense of being with each other” seem like a valuable contribution, if I could get P89 to deliver that kind of mood. I tried adding P89 to my own sensuality mix to see what the self effects woud be … > [@P81 with P89 - More novel experiences](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p81-with-p89-more-novel-experiences/35301/1): > > Prologue The first description of this combination that I am aware of is by Tacitus, about three years ago, in a thread entitled [A novel P81/P89 experience](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-novel-p81-p89-experience/1705). He was using 50mcg of each but recommended that the average user begin at about 10mcg. More recently, I discussed the P81 / P89 combination on my P81 thread: In retrospect I can see how P81 and P89 contribute effects to create the results of the P81 / P89 mix. Before experiencing it, however, I would never have come close to predictin… It is interesting that a couple of you comment on enhanced taste. I hadn’t noticed that before, but in retrospect I recall eating a couple of astonishingly good burritos while wearing P89. I thought I’d found a really good Mexican restaurant. Maybe it was just the P89! Pagodeiro thinks that P89 works better with coffee than with cake. I think of P89 as being one of the lower tones (grounded, centered) so the coffee rather than cake resonates in a way that I’m at a loss to explain any better than that. There seems to be a consensus that P102 enhances the senses. For different people, it seems to be a different sense. Several have noted music or other sounds becoming particularly clear, complex or acute. Others have noticed taste. Food with P89, P102 and perhaps TAF would be an area worth further exploration. A lot of what has been described, such as the food, the difficulty reading, the easier and focused social interactions, would be consistent with a description of a “here and now” focus, an alertness to the external world. TAA (as in Instant Shine) is something I have generally thought of as providing this kind of attention. Compared to TAA, I beleive P81/P89 is cooler, more grounded and task oriented. If, working for a printer, one’s job were to spot check books by scanning quickly for smeared ink or defective pages, P89 would probably improve one’s performance; whereas, actual reading, which requires more internal processing, is degraded by P89. I have not noticed the aggressive/fighting effect that Annawithmones has mentioned, nor the “women seem to become a little bit pissed of if i go over 10mcg” effect that Pagodeiro describes. I have, however, settled on 10mcg as being a good dose for myself. Interestingly, Tacitus also recommended 10mcg. I can see where the excessive task orientation, probably at the expense of social niceties, could become irritating in a non-emergency situation, when one was wearing too much P89. I think of TAF as a dishabituator, as being the pheromone to wear for doing something “again for the first time” or a “second chance to make a good first impression.” It seems that Annawithmones got something of that sort of effect with P81/P89 (and P74, IS) when meeting with her difficult co-worker. It would be interesting to add TAF to the mix in this kind of situation. I think of TAF working at the sensory level (see it again for the first time) and P81/P89 working at the mood level (forget about the past). Sometime within the next month, I can see the opportunity arising for me to try this myself. I am not ready to say that P81/P89 is necessarily _always_ good for relationships. If you have a particularly warm history with someone, reminiscences should pleasantly colour your current experiences. P81/P89 may blot that out.