# P89 - Testing results, very intresting for me. **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 17, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020 "2010-12-17T15:10:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 12
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020/12 "2010-12-30T21:47:31Z")
I think that Annawithmones and Pagodeiro have probably read most of these posts, but, for anyone joining the discussion, let me give some explicit links to relevant P81 and P89 posts from other threads: > [@Experimenting with P81](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimenting-with-p81/34901/1): > > I have been experimenting with P81 on and off for about a year and a half now. I haven’t written much about it because, frankly, I did not much like it at first. Here is [one of my early observations](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-in-p99-and-p81/12439/11): P81 and aggression I have been experimenting recently with P81 in the 20-40mcg range. [Elsewhere](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812) I have used P81 at 2.5mcg to add a bit of focus & depth to a softer formula, but a more complete dose of P81 used alone or with other [pheromones](https://a314.com/) has a very different and profound effect on one’s per… > [@Pushing someone over the edge with P81 + P83?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pushing-someone-over-the-edge-with-p81-p83/34493/33): > > Well, P81 is definitely an erection-maker!(20 mcg added to the brew) Last Saturday at the gig got hugged from behind between the 1st & 2nd set & there it was hitting me in the ass. He was a little embarrassed when he realized that I felt it, so I did the only thing I could do to let him know that I was quite alright with it. I grabbed him, pulled him close to me & stuck my tongue down his throat slight_smile He responded very well. Unfortunately, I did not get to consummate the deal Satur… > [@P81 self test 75mcg](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p81-self-test-75mcg/33922/3): > > It is difficult for me to put my P81 experiences into words, but they are consistent with what Six has described. The following ring true: Sometimes there’s an almost sadistic – sometimes reptilian – quality to P81. > [@P89 and P81, An Observation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-and-p81-an-observation/25046/1): > > There hasn’t been much posted about P89. [Tacitus writes about an experience combining P81 and P89:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-novel-p81-p89-experience/1705) I think some of the “physically very solid” feelings Tacitus describes might be attributed to P81, but the sense of a “settled relationship,” of having “coexisted through thick and thin” and “solid sense of being with each other” seem like a valuable contribution, if I could get P89 to deliver that kind of mood. I tried adding P89 to my own sensuality mix to see what the self effects woud be … > [@P81 with P89 - More novel experiences](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p81-with-p89-more-novel-experiences/35301/1): > > Prologue The first description of this combination that I am aware of is by Tacitus, about three years ago, in a thread entitled [A novel P81/P89 experience](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-novel-p81-p89-experience/1705). He was using 50mcg of each but recommended that the average user begin at about 10mcg. More recently, I discussed the P81 / P89 combination on my P81 thread: In retrospect I can see how P81 and P89 contribute effects to create the results of the P81 / P89 mix. Before experiencing it, however, I would never have come close to predictin… It is interesting that a couple of you comment on enhanced taste. I hadn’t noticed that before, but in retrospect I recall eating a couple of astonishingly good burritos while wearing P89. I thought I’d found a really good Mexican restaurant. Maybe it was just the P89! Pagodeiro thinks that P89 works better with coffee than with cake. I think of P89 as being one of the lower tones (grounded, centered) so the coffee rather than cake resonates in a way that I’m at a loss to explain any better than that. There seems to be a consensus that P102 enhances the senses. For different people, it seems to be a different sense. Several have noted music or other sounds becoming particularly clear, complex or acute. Others have noticed taste. Food with P89, P102 and perhaps TAF would be an area worth further exploration. A lot of what has been described, such as the food, the difficulty reading, the easier and focused social interactions, would be consistent with a description of a “here and now” focus, an alertness to the external world. TAA (as in Instant Shine) is something I have generally thought of as providing this kind of attention. Compared to TAA, I beleive P81/P89 is cooler, more grounded and task oriented. If, working for a printer, one’s job were to spot check books by scanning quickly for smeared ink or defective pages, P89 would probably improve one’s performance; whereas, actual reading, which requires more internal processing, is degraded by P89. I have not noticed the aggressive/fighting effect that Annawithmones has mentioned, nor the “women seem to become a little bit pissed of if i go over 10mcg” effect that Pagodeiro describes. I have, however, settled on 10mcg as being a good dose for myself. Interestingly, Tacitus also recommended 10mcg. I can see where the excessive task orientation, probably at the expense of social niceties, could become irritating in a non-emergency situation, when one was wearing too much P89. I think of TAF as a dishabituator, as being the pheromone to wear for doing something “again for the first time” or a “second chance to make a good first impression.” It seems that Annawithmones got something of that sort of effect with P81/P89 (and P74, IS) when meeting with her difficult co-worker. It would be interesting to add TAF to the mix in this kind of situation. I think of TAF working at the sensory level (see it again for the first time) and P81/P89 working at the mood level (forget about the past). Sometime within the next month, I can see the opportunity arising for me to try this myself. I am not ready to say that P81/P89 is necessarily _always_ good for relationships. If you have a particularly warm history with someone, reminiscences should pleasantly colour your current experiences. P81/P89 may blot that out. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-testing-results-very-intresting-for-me/44020)._