# P90 at 15 mcg: a foggy, dreamlike drive to work, not concentration

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 1, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-at-15-mcg-a-foggy-dreamlike-drive-to-work-not-concentration/51027 "2011-07-01T02:42:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![skittishsynapses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@skittishsynapses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skittishsynapses)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-at-15-mcg-a-foggy-dreamlike-drive-to-work-not-concentration/51027/1 "2011-07-01T02:42:56Z")

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(also posted in my journal)

So I snagged some p90 (15mcg) like I said I was going to. Well, concentration isn’t the word I would use to describe the effects.

I sprayed some on before work around 9:40. Didn’t feel anything at first but I noticed I could ‘sense’ the pheros seconds after. I got in my car and drove off on my merry way. I noticed my reactions were slightly off, but nothing out of the ordinary. I thought to myself at least I don’t have singular focus like p114. about 10 minutes in I feel like driving is a daydream, still lucid but my thoughts felt fuzzy. 15-17 minutes in I thought to myself wow, this car ride feels so long. Like I had been driving for 40 minutes or more, but I know it hasn’t because traffic is clear and I’m only 5 minutes away from the office. I pull in and make my way upstairs.

I don’t feel as active and I feel like I’m taking my time doing everything. I pay attention to what I’m doing at a slower rate. I usually work on several things at once. Looking back, it was closer to one thing at a time. A bad thing when it comes to being around my boss. He would tell me to do something and I’d space out, missing his instructions and asking what he said. I opted not to spray again until 2pm when he takes off to pick up his kid for 2 hours.

I couldn’t concentrate on any actual computer work so I opted to clean out a supply closet I’ve wanting to clear up for weeks. The door won’t close shut at all. Yeah. Time to clean. I turn on some music and get to cleaning/organizing. That felt just fine. The music helped pushed me along. 3:30 rolls around and I think oh I have half an hour to work on the research list I should be looking up. I felt like it was far longer than half an hour yet again. But I got the list done! It should have taken longer. He strolls in with his kiddo. Damned if I remember what I did for the next hour and a half. Right now, it’s all a daze as I type this. Left around 5:45. Talked on the phone and came in. Kept spacing out on conversation and asking for repetition. Even on subjects I initiated. Got in the door.

Right now, I’m still feeling dazed and confused. Maybe I should pop on Led Zepplin? hehe.

The only moment that struck me odd was turning on Dead Zone on netflix (never seen the series) and there’s brother/sister reunion in the first episode. I have some trouble empathizing with people in real life but in books and films, it’s easier. No idea why. I would have welled up a little, but I was on the verge of tearing up, up until the scene cut and things relaxed. But it felt stronger than usual. I should watch a drama with p90 on and see what happens.

Not digging this stuff very much because of the sedated effects I’m encountering. Testing p114 again tomorrow methinks. Anyone have similar effects?

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-at-15-mcg-a-foggy-dreamlike-drive-to-work-not-concentration/51027/2 "2011-07-05T17:17:24Z")

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So any more feedback on this molecule?

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**Author:** ![skittishsynapses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@skittishsynapses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skittishsynapses)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-at-15-mcg-a-foggy-dreamlike-drive-to-work-not-concentration/51027/3 "2011-07-05T18:07:16Z")

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I haven’t given it a go since that experience was so screwy. But since you asked, I guess I’ll test it again for you Steve. 😉

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**Author:** ![skittishsynapses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@skittishsynapses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skittishsynapses)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 9:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-at-15-mcg-a-foggy-dreamlike-drive-to-work-not-concentration/51027/4 "2011-07-06T09:27:34Z")

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p90, 2nd report

Here you go Steve, a fresh report on p90, with me still dazed and confused! lol.

Steve wanted more feedback on p90 and since it’s my day off, I figured why the heck not? In total I sprayed myself with about 75 mcg today (probably a bit more), with a bath in between.

Here in LA, it has been around 87-90 degrees. Any home not air conditioned is going to be an oven. I woke up around 11am. Read Steve’s post about wanting more info so I figured what the hey, best day to do it right? I wanted to see if it would alter my empathy while watching a movie. I put on Bill Murry’s “The man who knew too little” as it has been forever since I watched it. One 15mcg spray to my throat. Turned the movie on. The fan is whirring in the backdrop aimlessly blowing air. I can’t say I felt more in tune with the characters but I zoned out the rest of the real world. I completely forgot my surroundings until I was distracted. The movie was all I could focus on and it felt very much “my reality”.

An hour or so in, I gave myself another 15mcg spray. The self effects I noticed was everything felt a bit more dream like. I was present and focused, but in the way only possible in a dream, with a haze. My vision while perfectly normal, felt like it was frosted at the edges. In a way, it is akin to a Tilt-shift lens. Tried to watch another film, but I was distracted by the heat and food. I felt focused enough to notice my cats were overheating, so I gave them quick cool baths so they’d be okay. I’m surprised they didn’t struggle as much, or rather, the ones that give me trouble didn’t and the easy going ones flailed. I gave myself a shower after.

I went skating a few hours later around 6:30. Wrapped up around 9. I wanted to wait afterwards to spray on more P90. Went to supermarket tired and sweaty. Sprayed 15 mcg. A split second of what I can only describe as being hit with a pan and changing scenes. I walk inside, get detergent and lemonade. The lines are incredibly long. 4 check stands open and each has 10+ people. As I stand in line, I’m noticing various insignificant details about the door, the woman ahead of me, lights, etc. I pull out my phone and check emails/text. I zoned out and didn’t realize I had been in line for 5-10 minutes while on the phone. I was in my own bubble. Snapped back, tried to pay attention to the woman ahead of me. A cute mom with her kid no older than 13 and I think the mom’s dad. Noticed magazine racks. Thought to myself “how bizarre, my boss is responsible for stuff like this.”

I come home and pack my stuff to go to the laundromat. I head to the laundromat, shove everything in the washers, start. Next spray at 15 mcg. That’s 30 so far. I figured I would do it after the loads were started, wouldn’t want to screw that up. I forgot my bedtime shorts anyway. damn it. I pick up an evolutionary psych book on desire and make it a few pages. I read each word carefully. I only made it 3-4 pages in. It’s a re-read anyway. I’m fidgeting around the laundromat, going in and out because it’s hot. I feel like I’ve lost track of time. No matter what a clock said, it felt like the wrong time. Popped things in the dryer, popped things out. The time doesn’t feel congruent with the time I read.

I fold my clothes. It feels automatic. The world has that frosted dream concentration again. I’m solely focused on my clothes. Even when I wanted to call my friend while folding, I didn’t and at the same time, couldn’t. I could not get myself to make that all. I had to pack everything up in my car for it to be okay. I made the call. She’s coming over. She’s the girl who was affected by my [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)+ammo trial.

It’s been an hour and a half since the last spray. Even though I told myself it had only been half an hour. Uh. that can’t be right. 45 Mcgs now. I’m not feeling quite right. I talk to her, but I’m having difficulty voicing my thoughts, being my usual witty self. Not as friendly, touchy, talkative as she was with the attraction mix, so that gave me an interesting frame of reference. But she did hold my hand while walking down the laundromat. Odd. I neg her some, but it feels less calculated and uncharacteristically slower.

We talked for a good hour or so. She walks me to my car. And then asks for a ride back to her car 60 ft away lol. I tease her. Drove to her car and pulled in. We talked about the guy she liked at starbucks having been laid off. She’s sad but I tell her it’s okay, it’s a fresh start, no worries. I have a small car, and the mones I think are getting to her. She’s quieter. She’s usually a chatty latin fireball of words. I roll down the window to air things out. We sat quiet in the car mostly for what was probably 10-15 minutes, but it felt like longer. I was starting to feel highly unusual at this point. While she talked, it felt like there was a chasm between us. She was a foot or two away, but it felt like 5-10 feet. It felt like she was so distant and far away, arms crossed. I couldn’t make myself move or talk much as I was so concentrated on this unusual feeling. I only get this feeling late at night sometimes with my eyes closed and the world, the bed, etc feels so far away and I feel so small.

She said she needed sleep and would be going. She opens the car door. Her leg hurts, and I pick her up and walk to her car. In she goes. She blows me a kiss and asks when I would be at the starbucks again. Friday? She’s still mentioning the barista. The feeling of distance dissipated as soon as I got out of the car. I popped into my car, and drove off behind her. I nearly hit her car twice in the parking lot. lol. I drove home, and signaled to make a left into my apartment at a dead end…uh…why? So spacy. I drag my clothes in, put everything away, get the bed ready, and shower off the P90. The effects are still lingering as I feel this report is hazy, lacking clarity and a bit tough for me to hone in on right. But while it is fresh in my mind, I wanted to write and share.

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**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-at-15-mcg-a-foggy-dreamlike-drive-to-work-not-concentration/51027/5 "2011-07-06T19:04:25Z")

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> [@skittishsynapses](#):
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> And then asks for a ride back to her car 60 ft away lol…I have a small car, and the mones I think are getting to her…She said she needed sleep and would be going. She opens the car door. Her leg hurts, and I pick her up and walk to her car. In she goes. She blows me a kiss and asks when I would be at the starbucks again. Friday? She’s still mentioning the barista.

I haven’t tested P90 over 20mcgs(will have to check my journal)…Very interesting stuff… Tonight I may just try 3 sprays at !5mcgs a spray for a grand total of 45mcgs.

As for your having to drive her to her car 60ft away and carry her to it. IS that typical behavior from her??? Could you elaborate on how you think the mones did or didn’t make her react that way???

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**Author:** ![skittishsynapses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@skittishsynapses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skittishsynapses)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-at-15-mcg-a-foggy-dreamlike-drive-to-work-not-concentration/51027/6 "2011-07-06T20:12:14Z")

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Well I’m still feeling quite off today. I can’t seem to concentrate and this is perturbing considering I’m playing catch up with a weekend’s worth of emails! Oy vey. I woke up this morning feeling like I spent the night drinking. My head is floaty, I felt a bit trashed, and considering I got 6-7 hours sleep, I still feel like I got far less. I still feel somewhat in a dream state. Maybe I didn’t wash off right? I gave myself a nice 3 sprays of IS and 2 of IO before I left the house to perk me up…but that doesn’t seem to have helped. Boss seems a bit…cross. Anywho this is about P90. 🙂

So far I don’t recommend anyone use P90 in high doses. It’s wrecking havoc on being here and present. In a way, it kind of reminds me of spaceland at the 30+mcg usage. But it seems like it needs a happy go lucky steering molecule. Maybe P103? If the dream state is the reality you’re looking to go for..

It seemed like she wanted to dump her thoughts onto me, but it was a bad day for her so that was a big influencer. I’m not sure why she walked to my car, it was clear across the parking lot and she has a limp. No that’ not usually typical of her to ask for a ride. To carry her, I’m not sure she expected me to pick her up. lol. Unfortunately for me, I have bad wrists, but I did it. Honestly, I haven’t a clue what P90’s function is other than to send you off into la la land, create distorted realities, and maybe influence your emotional state towards what? I have no idea yet.

I would say I’d try it out again today but I need some down time from this putative. _phew_ 🆒

Anyone try P90 at 5-10 mcgs notice these effects or something completely different?

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**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-at-15-mcg-a-foggy-dreamlike-drive-to-work-not-concentration/51027/7 "2011-07-06T20:26:07Z")

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> [@skittishsynapses](#):
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> Anyone try P90 at 5-10 mcgs notice these effects or something completely different?

I use P90 regularly at 15mcgs with IH, A314, and AMMO. I don’t see what your seeing at the higher dosages. I am going to try a couple runs at a higher dose though.

Here is a report of mine about P90.

> [@P90.....hhmmm....could I.....](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-hhmmm-could-i/44078):
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> …use this stuff to quit smoking??? I have been testing P90 lately and got to say I understand why they made a A314 version with this in it. First and foremost my son loves this stuff at 3-4 sprays at 5mcgs (15-20 mcgs) women too( with and without A314). I noticed that I thought a lot more before speaking and lots of smirks and shit grins before I would speak. Almost like every word counted. I don’t liken this to IH because with it I don’t have nearly this much INNER DIALOGUE going on. I basic…

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**Author:** ![skittishsynapses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@skittishsynapses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skittishsynapses)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-at-15-mcg-a-foggy-dreamlike-drive-to-work-not-concentration/51027/8 "2011-07-06T20:46:55Z")

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I will agree about the inner dialogue being more prevalent and external conversations feel tongue tied and hampered. It’s a strange feeling. But I usually have internal dialogues with myself, so I didn’t think anything of it.

As for smoking, I can sort of confirm that. I smoke out of a hookah and I can’t say I’ve wanted to smoke while using p90. But, while my head feels like it’s spinning and in an altered state, smoking hookah doesn’t seem that appealing..

Maybe I’m just sensitive to p90? I tried p90 and p114 at the same time, to see if they cancel each other out. Instead, I had a mild allergic reaction I think? haha. I felt my throat tighten and I coughed. Off to the shower and a ton of alcohol to rub off whatever I could. it only lasted a minute or two but still. It’s perplexing.
