# P90 may need 100 mu or more: unusually chatty women at the gym

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**Created:** [November 29, 2006, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-may-need-100-mu-or-more-unusually-chatty-women-at-the-gym/23607 "2006-11-29T19:56:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-may-need-100-mu-or-more-unusually-chatty-women-at-the-gym/23607/11 "2007-08-26T21:09:06Z")

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> [@P90 barely registers even at 250 mu: subtle, a touch social dominant?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-barely-registers-even-at-250-mu-subtle-a-touch-social-dominant/985/2):
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> although it may require a stronger application, 100 mu + to kick in… at the gym I observed women were unusually animated, very chatty, almost noisy… same thing occured on the subway… even a reserved brit couple seated next to me became voluble… and I was afforded an unexpected degree of respect throughout the day… although not of the Clint Eastwood P80 variety, nor of the somewhat more erotic P83 variety\*… the upper range putatives so far, P90, P91, P93 appear to have a generally civilized, well sociallized quality…\* P90 quietly exudes what I might term **“empathetic leadership”** versus “authoritarian leadership”… in the direction of the wise, respected grandfather figure… I did notice that in important discussion during the working day, **I could manage the very tricky balancing act of being direct and forceful while maintaining rapport..**. I have never been good at that likable intensity trick… P90 seems to give one a boost there…

Yes I have it and will give P90 a whirl soon. I wonder if anyone has found a respect/‘empathetic leadership’ effect to it like Tacitus has described? 100 mcg+ of P90 may be required for this effect to kick in. On the other hand tacitus probably comes across naturally as a bit (or a lot) of a leader so it may just work for him in this way?

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