# P90 may need 100 mu or more: unusually chatty women at the gym **URL:** \ **Category:** Putative / Cutting Edge Molecules\ **Created:** [November 29, 2006, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-may-need-100-mu-or-more-unusually-chatty-women-at-the-gym/23607 "2006-11-29T19:56:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-may-need-100-mu-or-more-unusually-chatty-women-at-the-gym/23607/5 "2006-12-01T07:56:40Z")
> [@P90 barely registers even at 250 mu: subtle, a touch social dominant?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-barely-registers-even-at-250-mu-subtle-a-touch-social-dominant/985/2): > > although it may require a stronger application, 100 mu + to kick in… at the gym I observed women were unusually animated, very chatty, almost noisy… same thing occured on the subway… even a reserved brit couple seated next to me became voluble… and I was afforded an unexpected degree of respect throughout the day… although not of the Clint Eastwood P80 variety, nor of the somewhat more erotic P83 variety\*… the upper range putatives so far, P90, P91, P93 appear to have a generally civilized, well sociallized quality…\* P90 quietly exudes what I might term **“empathetic leadership”** versus “authoritarian leadership”… in the direction of the wise, respected grandfather figure… I did notice that in important discussion during the working day, **I could manage the very tricky balancing act of being direct and forceful while maintaining rapport..**. I have never been good at that likable intensity trick… P90 seems to give one a boost there… Interesting I have been waiting for something like this. Ive been playing around with P80 and you are right - serious authority. It seems to me that everything that is ‘Alpha’/ dominant whether it be A314, -None, P76, P80, etc is kind of dark, and makes people kind of distant. It seems that, in every day life, people don’t like it so much when they are the ones in the less dominant position. I hope P90 can be different from the above mentioned lot but I have my doubts whether it will exude enough authority based on my experiences with anything which is good for rapport and empathy. Keep us updated! Visionary --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-may-need-100-mu-or-more-unusually-chatty-women-at-the-gym/23607)._