# P93 -- Caucasian Attractant or The First Known Racist Pheromone? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 19, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830 "2008-05-19T21:25:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/21 "2009-01-08T03:57:40Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > And likewise it is where desires, transformed by love, take flight into spirit. It is the place where spirit both loses and finds itself in the eternal dance of _Creation_. Diane Hence, meeting yourself coming through the void. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/22 "2010-08-21T14:40:48Z")
**The P93 doughnut hypothesis: Caucasians like what P93 is not** Those of us who took any physical science in high school know that electricity is basically the flow of electrons. Electrons are arbitrarily assigned a negative charge. Things are relative here. Electrons _could_ have been assigned a positive charge and _protons_ a negative. When later discovered, then, _positrons_ would have had to have been called _negitrons_… But they didn’t do it that way. In the early days of electrical engineering, equally arbitrarily, the flow of electricity was conceptualized as flowing from the positive pole of a battery or other voltage source to the negative. Flow from positive to negative seems intuitive, at first, but if electricity is the flow of negative electrons, what exactly is it that flows from the positive to the negative? Doughnuts. Er, uh… not exactly, but just as the hole distinguishes a doughnut from a biscuit or pastry, so the ingenious concept of the “positive hole” or _electron hole_ was introduced to represent the positive charge associated with the relative lack of an electron. What’s that got to do with pheromones? Nothing, but let the concept percolate. It seems to have been generally observed that africans and hispanics can tolerate significantly higher levels of androstenone, compared to caucasians. It is my observation that P93 combined with androstenone (about 2:1) is race neutral. Higher levels of androstenone are more attractive to non-caucasians, lower levels to blue eyed redheads. East Asians would seem to prefer not too high levels of either P93 or androstenone. I’m not, yet, sure if that’s relative or absolute levels. ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/23 "2010-10-25T01:48:42Z")
Has there been any observations on a particular Putative and/or mix working well for non-caucasians on caucasians? Yes, I would _love_ to actually try everything and report on it but I simply don’t have the money. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/24 "2010-10-25T13:05:37Z")
I shall risk appearing feminine and try p93 next time ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/25 "2010-10-25T18:00:46Z")
IMO, -none works very well for asians/whites in attracting whites. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/26 "2010-10-25T18:14:25Z")
> [@England](#): > > Has there been any observations on a particular Putative and/or mix working well for non-caucasians on caucasians? That is what P93 is said to do. It attracts Caucasians. It is supposed to work especially well if you are _not_ a Caucasian. If you are a Caucasian and want to attract non-Caucasians, some people believe androstenone (e.g. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), TUTH) works especially well. ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/27 "2010-10-25T20:43:19Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > That is what P93 is said to do. It attracts Caucasians. It is supposed to work especially well if you are _not_ a Caucasian. So that is in addition to working well for non-whites attracting non-whites as per the first post? ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/28 "2010-10-25T21:09:27Z")
> [@England](#): > > So that is in addition to working well for non-whites attracting non-whites as per the first post? In the first post Jasmin is asking a question. She is asking if it is true that [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) works very well on non-caucasians when used by non-caucasians. She is asking because she _only saw one report that says so_. In the many posts that follow, most people are saying, “No, it is not true.” Most people seem to think that P93 attracts caucasians best. This is true if you are caucasian or not. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/29 "2010-10-26T03:38:06Z")
Tisha says p93 arouses her, so I guess it works, lol ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/30 "2010-10-26T16:56:33Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > In the first post Jasmin is asking a question. She is asking if it is true that P93 works very well on non-caucasians when used by non-caucasians. She is asking because she _only saw one report that says so_. > > In the many posts that follow, most people are saying, “No, it is not true.” > > Most people seem to think that P93 attracts caucasians best. This is true if you are caucasian or not. Cheers mate. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/31 "2010-10-26T19:46:38Z")
My observations as reported in several threads and posts over the years that non-Caucasians can wear a lot of P93 and attract Caucasian females, while Caucasian men can only wear it in small quantities to attract Caucasian women. I’m pretty sure that most users of [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) who had excellent results attracting white females were non Caucasian themselves. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/32 "2010-10-26T20:03:45Z")
but then again, what does it mean to “ATTRACT?” Unless, you ENDED UP having SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS, attraction means nada. Mx297 works well in attracting females, but not SEXUALLY, so you never know. I don’t care how much you “ATTRACT.” If SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP does not occur, it means it wasn’t effective. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/33 "2010-10-26T20:11:04Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > but then again, what does it mean to “ATTRACT?” Unless, you ENDED UP having SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS, attraction means nada. Mx297 works well in attracting females, but not SEXUALLY, so you never know. > I don’t care how much you “ATTRACT.” If SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP does not occur, it means it wasn’t effective. Really? So attraction is just about sex then and nothing else? WOW you have a very limited sense of being then!:o ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/34 "2010-10-26T20:12:44Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > but then again, what does it mean to “ATTRACT?” Unless, you ENDED UP having SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS, attraction means nada. Mx297 works well in attracting females, but not SEXUALLY, so you never know. > I don’t care how much you “ATTRACT.” If SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP does not occur, it means it wasn’t effective. Just because theres physical attraction between 2 individuals doesn’t mean they always “act” on it. “Being attracted” is one of the precursors to sexual relations so what your saying is unless sex happens the attraction isn’t justified? On top of that theres different types of attraction as well in the form of personal enamor, respect, physicality, emotionality in terms of developing feelings. All I have to say is your putting a strong statement out there considering the aspects of being empirical. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/35 "2010-10-26T20:17:19Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Really? So attraction is just about sex then and nothing else? WOW you have a very limited sense of being then!:o My bad, if I sounded like an A$$… lol… Well, the reason I use mones is that I want to increase my chance of having more sexual relationships. I am pretty sure that is the primary reason for other guys too. I usually “attract” and develop good relationships with girls, but a lot of it ends up being PLATONIC. I really don’t like that, unless those girls are already in serious relationships. I guess it is okay have some “girl friends” but not getting to have sex with them, when tehy are really hot = bad for self-esteem. ---
**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/36 "2010-10-27T04:17:39Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I guess it is okay have some “girl friends” but not getting to have sex with them, when tehy are really hot = bad for self-esteem. or maybe you shouldn’t let anything external effect your self-esteem? This way, you can have hot girls as friends and treat them like human beings. Win-win situation 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/37 "2010-10-27T05:25:53Z")
I’ll have to admit I came here trying to up my sexual conquests.. but in the process have found its much better to form meaningful relations than just trying to hump every girl I run across. Maybe I am crazy, but making good friends with them first is just way more satisfying than having nothing in common than my part A works well with their part B. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/38 "2010-10-27T12:39:10Z")
> [@Joe10](#): > > or maybe you shouldn’t let anything external effect your self-esteem? > > This way, you can have hot girls as friends and treat them like human beings. > > Win-win situation 🆒 it depends. If you just want FRIENDS, it is okay to stick around and have platonic relationships. I see A LOT of guys here in that situation, and they continue to post how to get out of friendzone or get their hot friends sexually attracted… Look, if you want a hot gf, go for it, and if you get rejected a couple times, go find another one. Don’t do yourself AND the girl a disfavor by being friends and sticking around, esp if you are hoping to be with her someday. Moreover, the girl would lose RESPECT, residual interest and any FUTURE ATTRACTION for you, if you act like her rejection is okay and you just continue to be friends. I have become close to some that I liked in the past. Strangely, I have lost all sexual/physcial attraction for them; maybe, that is why it worked out and we became such good friends Plus, my self-esteem doesn’t get hit anymore. It used to when I was like 21. I am not a kid anymore, lol. Whenever some guy get girls whom I was crazy about, I blamed myself: I am not tall, smart, rich, sexy, popular, etc. I bet a few people here and in real world that would think the same, when things like that happen to them. Now, I just ignore it, and don’t even re-visit the issue. I realize I have better fishes to entice and catch. Additionally, I have too many great things going on in my life to worry about that kind of crap. Just trying to be realistic about the whole situation… ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/39 "2010-10-27T14:31:45Z")
“The cynical argument goes that our sexual and aesthetic responses are triggered entirely by certain perceptual features. For example, we all like to look at pretty faces. This is not just sexual.” “Looks aren’t everything: We pick partners based on an intricate calculus of who we think will make us happy.” The Rules of **Attraction** -by Paul Bloom ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/40 "2010-10-27T14:32:58Z")
If you can communicate attractive qualities to women that are “just friends” in a legit sense and not in the “I want you as my puppy dog/emotional tampon” sense you can score MASSIVE success with other women. For one being seen in public places with attractive women acts as social proof/preselection even if you never had sex with them…hell even if you and the woman standing next to each other deny it to the target and assure her that you’re just friends. A target will always wonder if anything ever happened, or if your friend might secretly want you. There’s intrigue there on top of simply seeing the proof that attractive women enjoy your company. On top of that attractive women tend to run in groups. Find a hotty and 9 of 10 she has several friends just as if not hotter. Friends that will become part of your social circle by way of you being part of hers. And when those friends have breakups, your friend might consider saying “Hey I know this really awesome guy, you two would be great together”. The key is to always communicate attraction but to deliberately avoid taking it into seduction. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830.md?page=3)