# p93 + meo-est + a1 + p83 + p75.... enter at your own risk **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 12, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964 "2010-03-12T12:57:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/1 "2010-03-12T12:57:11Z")
Tonight was an interesting one. I thought about what I had said in the Saturday thread and modified things a bit. Instead of mx350 (mx203) I decided to go with straight p93 (4x10mcg). If my memory serves me correctly, 203/350 is 12.5 mcg spray of p93… so that’s why I went there. 1 drop A1 split wrists and throat 4x 10mcg spray p93 (each wrist + both sides of neck) 3x 50mcg meo-est (each wrist and front of throat) 3x 10mcg p83 (each wrist and throat) .3/.5 spray x 12.5 mcg p75 to wrist then spread all over other app points all neroli scented (minus the A1) I smeared all of it together after each application. I applied at approx 9pm. Went out to dinner @ a Thai restaurant with a friend. No major hits @ dinner but I did get a couple of good stares from the waitress and smiles. Dropped my friend off and headed out to the bar where my other friend was going to be at. Just wanted to go for some drinks then I was gonna go to another spot to hang out with C from my Saturday report. C ended up being at the first spot I showed up at. Same interactions as before.. lots of cutesy shit. Kino, kisses, etc. As the night would progress on though, things started to get interesting. She made a comment about the fact that she had been ‘chasing’ me and that was not like her. This sparked further conversation about how much she liked me etc. \*note - this is the one who burned me 3 months ago and blew me off for another guy. The conversation became very directed to the fact that she wanted me to be hers. I personally am not in the mindset where I can commit to anyone… and I am ‘dating’ at the moment and spending time with people who I enjoy spending time with. I am not sleeping with all of these girls, but each one provides some aspect of the attention I desire so I’m enjoying it. Some is more physical, some is more intellectual, some is just vibing… and I like it. So I basically got put on the spot and was told that this person does not want to be lead around to believe there’s something more than there is. It’s funny because this is 100% role reversal from what happened like 3 months ago. There’s some factors involved that she’s dated/been involved with various people of a lesser quality or caliber of person than I am. I don’t say this in a disrespectful way at all, but they just don’t fill her needs. I’m the one who didn’t chase her and she bounced off to others that would and now she’s playing the chase game with me. Tonight’s situation was extremely emotional though and I was not expecting it. I’m not sure how deep the mones were involved as alcohol was definitely a part of the equation, but the intensity of the emotional outburst seems to be spurred by them. In my readings p93 has a bit of a chatterbox and crushy effect attached to it. I think this is pretty accurate. It’s social, it’s honest, and it’s HIGHLY attractive. It’s almost like b-nol but more intense in some ways. I’m really interested in testing the p93 more now. In light of the current situation things are a bit crazy. I have one girl who has almost completely shut me out because of her ways of coping with major issues, and I have one who’s trying to make me hers lol. It’s kinda ridiculous at this point. I’m going to use this exact mix in Reno tomorrow night. I like the self effects from the meo-est + A1 (calm and mellow) + p75 (didn’t talk much about it but it definitely adds a masculine vibe to the mix). C is going to be around. I’m hoping she hits me up in the morning and actually wants to talk while not under the influence. I do like this one.. I did awhile ago but she burned me so I’m very cautious. She’s said a lot of things about how she fucked up in the past but she wants me now. I wish she’d realize that words are words, and actions = real. But I digress… Tomorrow in Reno I will apply the same mix before I head out to play the event. Hopefully things don’t get too crazy up there haha. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/2 "2010-03-12T13:33:23Z")
> [@Reclipse](#): > > Tonight was an interesting one. > > I thought about what I had said in the Saturday thread and modified things a bit. Instead of mx350 (mx203) I decided to go with straight p93 (4x10mcg). If my memory serves me correctly, 203/350 is 12.5 mcg spray of p93… so that’s why I went there. > > 1 drop A1 split wrists and throat > 4x 10mcg spray p93 (each wrist + both sides of neck) > 3x 50mcg meo-est (each wrist and front of throat) > 3x 10mcg p83 (each wrist and throat) > .3/.5 spray x 12.5 mcg p75 to wrist then spread all over other app points > all neroli scented (minus the A1) > > I smeared all of it together after each application. > > I applied at approx 9pm. Went out to dinner @ a Thai restaurant with a friend. No major hits @ dinner but I did get a couple of good stares from the waitress and smiles. > > Dropped my friend off and headed out to the bar where my other friend was going to be at. Just wanted to go for some drinks then I was gonna go to another spot to hang out with C from my Saturday report. C ended up being at the first spot I showed up at. > > Same interactions as before.. lots of cutesy shit. Kino, kisses, etc. As the night would progress on though, things started to get interesting. She made a comment about the fact that she had been ‘chasing’ me and that was not like her. This sparked further conversation about how much she liked me etc. \*note - this is the one who burned me 3 months ago and blew me off for another guy. > > The conversation became very directed to the fact that she wanted me to be hers. I personally am not in the mindset where I can commit to anyone… and I am ‘dating’ at the moment and spending time with people who I enjoy spending time with. I am not sleeping with all of these girls, but each one provides some aspect of the attention I desire so I’m enjoying it. Some is more physical, some is more intellectual, some is just vibing… and I like it. > > So I basically got put on the spot and was told that this person does not want to be lead around to believe there’s something more than there is. It’s funny because this is 100% role reversal from what happened like 3 months ago. There’s some factors involved that she’s dated/been involved with various people of a lesser quality or caliber of person than I am. I don’t say this in a disrespectful way at all, but they just don’t fill her needs. I’m the one who didn’t chase her and she bounced off to others that would and now she’s playing the chase game with me. > > Tonight’s situation was extremely emotional though and I was not expecting it. I’m not sure how deep the mones were involved as alcohol was definitely a part of the equation, but the intensity of the emotional outburst seems to be spurred by them. > > In my readings p93 has a bit of a chatterbox and crushy effect attached to it. I think this is pretty accurate. It’s social, it’s honest, and it’s HIGHLY attractive. It’s almost like b-nol but more intense in some ways. I’m really interested in testing the p93 more now. > > In light of the current situation things are a bit crazy. I have one girl who has almost completely shut me out because of her ways of coping with major issues, and I have one who’s trying to make me hers lol. It’s kinda ridiculous at this point. > > I’m going to use this exact mix in Reno tomorrow night. I like the self effects from the meo-est + A1 (calm and mellow) + p75 (didn’t talk much about it but it definitely adds a masculine vibe to the mix). C is going to be around. I’m hoping she hits me up in the morning and actually wants to talk while not under the influence. I do like this one.. I did awhile ago but she burned me so I’m very cautious. She’s said a lot of things about how she fucked up in the past but she wants me now. I wish she’d realize that words are words, and actions = real. But I digress… > > Tomorrow in Reno I will apply the same mix before I head out to play the event. Hopefully things don’t get too crazy up there haha. Excellent report! (FYI- MX201 is supposed to be 12.5mcg P93). Now you know why I’ve been whining about getting my order with [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/)! I love that stufff. I can’t wait to read how this mix works again for you!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/3 "2010-03-12T17:29:59Z")
Ahhhh ok. I did some other reading after I wrote this and figured out the mx201 was the p93. This stuff is fucking dangerous lol. I know there’s reports of the ‘gay vibe’ from it, but there was NONE of that last night. It may be that the p75 kept that really strong masculine vibe to it without being -none offensive. I think I’m going to use the calculator and figure out what strength I need to order for these products to create a composited mix. Have to play with the numbers a bit as I think the p83 was a lil too high. Getting yelled at on the street by a chick who’s professing her romantic emotions and feelings for you is quite an interesting experience haha ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/4 "2010-03-12T18:10:22Z")
wow, that is crazy. Your results from p93 nearly match mine exactly. > [@](#): > > The conversation became very directed to the fact that she wanted me to be hers > [@](#): > > Another effect I’ve seen several times now with p93 is the ‘ownership’ element to it. This is why I mentioned it adds depth to existing attraction. Wearing Ammo you’re seen as a really attractive, sexy, guy. What Ammo doesn’t do is make people want to instantly make you their boyfriend and take you home to meet the parents. With p93 I find people will tend to want to own you and have you all to themselves. Probably because (presuming the attraction is there) of the ‘I have so much in common with this guy’ effect. It has the ‘boyfriend’ effect. My best friend commented that one girl has got it really bad for me because she kept asking him where I was, where I had gone, how long will I be gone, etc. I think this happened because p93 can turn the perception of you from ‘just an attractive guy’ to ‘a real catch I don’t want to miss out on’. ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/5 "2010-03-12T18:32:04Z")
Hey WF, I remember reading that before and I greatly appreciate you reposting that piece of info. This one is very very interesting to say the least. That ‘urgency’ and ‘ownership’ aspect is really crazy. I think this mix is really powerful and should be used with great caution. Especially now that I know the effect of the p93 with my other additions. My thought for putting the mix together this way… Meo-EST + A1 = instant comfort, and it definitely has a ‘memory’ effect with repeated exposure p83 = disinhibitor of sorts with added attraction notes. (her roommate and his gf told me that she was definitely into me prior but she never had the balls to tell me, and she herself straight up said that I make her nervous because of how she feels… it’s almost like the beta nol honesty aspect in some ways when combined in this mix) p93 = I remember MHarris writing “For the reasons most guys are attracted to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), I think it’ll be useful.” The reading I did on this showed high attraction notes for a good amount of people and some got the ‘gay’ vibe from it. (I actually believe one of the waiters @ the restaurant was gay and thinking back he may have eyed me a couple times when walking by. I do think there was a DIHL from him too haha) p75 = masculine counterpart for the possible gay vibe that could be put off from the p93. I like p75 in mixes because it has that -none swagger and attraction without the offensiveness. I’m definitely going to keep working with this mix. I’m going to keep my specific ratios under wraps unless requested (and only certain folks will be privy to that info). I wish it could make it’s way into the lineup as an official MX product, but because of the A1 content I don’t see it happening ☹ Once I figure out the right ratios for each ingredient I’m going to get the bulk product required and make a batch to composite and see if that does anything to change the dynamic in any way. Once I figure that out I’ll probably make up a bunch and send em out to a few of you guys to test as I think it’d be an awesome thing to do. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/6 "2010-03-12T19:10:50Z")
Same interactions as before.. lots of cutesy shit. Kino, kisses, etc. As the night would progress on though, things started to get interesting. She made a comment about the fact that **she had been ‘chasing’ me** and that was not like her. This sparked **further** conversation about how much **she** **liked** me etc. \*note - this is the one who burned me 3 months ago and blew me off for another guy. The conversation became **very directed** to the fact that she wanted me to be hers. I personally am not in the mindset where I can commit to anyone… and I am ‘dating’ at the moment and **spending time with people who I enjoy spending time with**. I am not sleeping with all of these girls, but each one provides some aspect of the attention I desire so **I’m enjoying it**. Some is more physical, some is more intellectual, some is just vibing… and I like it. 😃 **Good for you** ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/7 "2010-03-12T19:21:49Z")
Shit! I just remembered I have a lunch date today with A (from a long time ago lol). I think I’m gonna shower and get this mix on so I can let it dry down a bit before she shows up. This is another one who had a chance awhile ago and fucked up. Yet another awesome test subject! \*edit - rescheduled cuz she’s still in a meeting. I guess I’m just gonna make her come here for a weekend and hang out lol. \*edit - she’s on her way now. I’m probably still gonna make her come spend a weekend with me though haha. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/8 "2010-03-12T21:10:12Z")
This shit is just beastly. Reclipse keep doing what you do. Being awesome 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/9 "2010-03-15T17:37:06Z")
Woot this won a thread of the week award! That’s pretty cool haha. I’ll update you guys some more about the use of this mix over the weekend. Was pretty fun up in Tahoe. Not so much in Reno. I really do like this mix and need to start from the bottom completely and figure out what ratios of product so I can composite and see if that changes things. More info coming soong! ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/10 "2010-03-15T22:30:43Z")
> [@Reclipse](#): > > Woot this won a thread of the week award! That’s pretty cool haha. Well deserved. You inspired me to try out p93 and A1 on Friday night. I wore 40mcg of p93 (which baring in mind is over double what I would normally wear) and roughly 2 drops of A1 (how I can’t wait for my order to arrive so I can finally dillute this down with PA and have a more accurately dosed application) I just had a quiet night at the cinema and then the pub across the road for one drink. The three girls I went with all gave me attentive, puppy dog eyes at one point or another. One of them rang me the next day and was like “I want to come and see you so I can give you a big hug. Do you not want to give me a big hug too?”. Deadly. I’m now not prepared to wear either A1 and p93 together around someone I don’t want to get soppy over me. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/11 "2010-03-16T00:16:03Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > Well deserved. > > I wore 40mcg of p93 (which baring in mind is over double what I would normally wear) and roughly 2 drops of A1 All to the neck, WF? ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-meo-est-a1-p83-p75-enter-at-your-own-risk/36964/12 "2010-03-16T01:33:26Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > Well deserved. > > You inspired me to try out p93 and A1 on Friday night. I wore 40mcg of p93 (which baring in mind is over double what I would normally wear) and roughly 2 drops of A1 (how I can’t wait for my order to arrive so I can finally dillute this down with PA and have a more accurately dosed application) > > I just had a quiet night at the cinema and then the pub across the road for one drink. The three girls I went with all gave me attentive, puppy dog eyes at one point or another. One of them rang me the next day and was like “I want to come and see you so I can give you a big hug. Do you not want to give me a big hug too?”. Deadly. I’m now not prepared to wear either A1 and p93 together around someone I don’t want to get soppy over me. And there is the ‘ownership’ concept rearing it’s head again haha. I’m trying to think of anything else that may be able to curb that a bit. Possibly a high application of -none or maybe a high application of the p75 which could cause a bit of a distance. I am thinking of switching out the p83 with p86 for a test run to see if it increases that soppy ownership aspect as p86 does have lots of anecdotal evidence of being the ‘crush’ mone. I would also kill to have p96 to throw into the mix or to replace one of the components with. Thanks for your report back on this. As I said, ‘enter at your own risk’ 😉 hahha I hope you do find a willing and appropriate candidate to test this one on in the future and report back to us. Cheers!