# P93, P83, and MEO-EST **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 9, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496 "2011-01-09T19:06:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/21 "2011-01-11T14:00:27Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > The more expectations you have, subsconsciously the more you’ll look for them and miss out on other opportunities. > > The blatant effects I’ve gotten have been from the UF packs, on a consistent basis. MX301 being second, but it’s a different kind of attraction that doesn’t necessarily hit in your face right away. > > All I’m saying for new users is to just wear it like anything else, a nice watch, a cologne, a well tailored shit, and be done with it. > > Lemme put it this way, you ever see someone who dresses well, but don’t carry it well, how it just seems he bought all those products and didn’t know how to carry himself or wear it. Well that’s what you will look like if you wear mones with those kinds of expectations, that’s how different perceptions of what they can or can’t do for you will do to you. Very good points to keep in mind. You have to don it and forget about it. If you’re too self-conscious about the fact that you are wearing it, seeking reactions, etc., that will show. I’d strongly advise against the well-tailored shit, though. Doesn’t work as nearly well as you’d think. ---
**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/22 "2011-01-11T14:12:28Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > It’s nice to see one of the most astute, well respected members of the community back. > > P83 doesn’t actually amplify the other mones, that would be more along the lines of p79. You are right about the dis-inhibiting aspects of it. From what I’ve found it lowers their sexual inhibitions and not so much other aspects. Like P130 lowers their fear factors so they say what ever is on their mind and even if its hurtful. P83 is flirty and fun and sneaks past their defenses. The more refined the more crazy they get in bed. I like it and yeah its very sexual if you work it right. But then so is Ishine. > > MEO-EST is a horse hormone and should be used in low quantities. I found it best at around 2.5 mcg. It adds a bit of comfort and well being to the interaction. > > Now you know about p93 as per our tele conversation. I’m super glad you are back and excited to read about your results. Holmes you are the man. 😃 No, YOU da man. 😃 Thanks for the clarifications. I was thinking people had mentioned that 83 amplified the effects of the other mones, but what they were saying was that it amplifies other peoples’ moods. Which sounds kind of risky. I guess I won’t be wearing any around Sean Penn. And [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/)… based on your description above, I’m hoping IH is a little different in its effects… 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/23 "2011-01-11T14:21:27Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Just wanted to stop by to say hey, Holmes! I’ll let the boys enlighten you, lol. Carry on… > > Bella “Say hey…” 😃 Long time, B. Great Parker quote, btw. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/24 "2011-01-11T14:41:42Z")
If someone ACTUALLY thinks that I care about notoriety on the internet forum, that is ridiculous. In that case, I would have put up my stupid pic, facebook profile up here also - not to mention details of all my past life experiences, education, job experiences, the girls I dated etc. I rather keep things to myself and not let anyone know. Like Gegogi said, people would think either you are a loser or pervert, if you go tell them you use mones… Ask girls if they want to ADVERTISE that they wear push up bras, 4-inch heels, make-ups to cover theri WRINKLES and MOLES, etc… That alone is a GOOD EXPLOIT that PUA’s utilize to neg… Likewise, You don’t want and shouldnt want people knowing what you do… Plus, status, respectability and good-looks are all relative. This one guy I know graduated from one of the University of California’s - in top 50 US NEWS - with biochemistry, and many girls think he is hot. Plus, he owns his own Ben and Jerry shop and does other counselign works. It doesn’t impress me at all. Of course, he can “frame” it make his life seem more appealing, but that is not his personality, so he doesn’t help his case. Also, there is this person I know that is AMAZING with girls. Even when he worked at Pizza shops delivering pizza’s - now he works as a computer programmer in a good company - he knew how to attract girls. For instance, we went to this place and met girls. At first, girls didn’t like him. I was like well, of course, he delivers pizza for like at age of 27, lol. However, after he talked to them this and that and they started to be all over him. I saw this first hand. Of course, he was a very good “seller” making his life seem very interesting. However, he did admit that in the end, it is WHAT YOU GOT and ACCOMPLISHED that will back it up. I think that probably motivated him to get to more respectable position he is in now.. Let me go on more… After testing it on some of my friends, I noticed that some guys generate more “buzz” than others. I don’t know what that is, but it probably has a lot to do with their inner qaulities that manifest and somehow better projection of things outward ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/25 "2011-01-11T14:43:31Z")
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/26 "2011-01-11T14:48:19Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight I am just trying to be realistic. that is THE REASON I like guys like Gunwitch, who is BRUTALLY HONESTY and REALISTIC. He is harsh, but he is as honest as he can be, instead of marketers like “Mystery” and “David DeAngelo” that tries to not be too FORTHRIGHT… Your look, status, height, education, and wealth MATTERs like gunwtich says; you just have to work with what you goi… It is not the MOST IMPORTANT thing but it matters in the long run… At least, gunwitch admists that You can try to “embellish” your accomplishments and appear “great” with mones, but in the end, it all comes down to your INNER CHARACTER, ACCOMPLISHMENTS, and CURRENT POSITION. That is why mones can get you laid and is good for SHORT FLINGS, just like this old poster said. i You can say you went to HARVARD and I can say the same. It is the internet, so I can bullcrap. However, in the end, we know DEEP INSIDE who we are and what we have on the table… I am CONTENT with where i am and what I have going, because I am not lying about things about me ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/27 "2011-01-11T15:52:56Z")
Overtly defensive for just a few words… 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/28 "2011-01-11T16:04:25Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Overtly defensive for just a few words… 🆒 Actually one LONG word to be politically correct 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/30 "2011-01-11T16:24:16Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Actually one LONG word to be politically correct 😉 😃 Well, **DEEP INSIDE** we know who we are 😉 Who knows? Olfact, you might even be a Harvard-grad lawyer that looks like brad pitt. No one knows 😉 Or delivering pizza for life? Sell cameras at Best buy? Might be Bi? or straight? who knows… Only you! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/31 "2011-01-11T17:01:41Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > 😃 Well, **DEEP INSIDE** we know who we are 😉 > > Who knows? Olfact, you might even be a Harvard-grad lawyer that looks like brad pitt. No one knows 😉 > > Or delivering pizza for life? Sell cameras at Best buy? Might be Bi? or straight? who knows… Only you! 😉 I get you. But as it has been said before. When you choose to be with a person or choose to be closer with them you dont get pick the toppings like a custom yogurt shop. You’ll get some that you like and others that you may not care for. I want a woman thats down to earth, passionate, with a genuine kindness about her, knows what she wants, but most of all love me for who I am, not for the titles I hold, not for the size of my check book, and not for the physical qualities that I might share with a Adonis among men. I’m a package deal you cant piece me off like a corporate take over. Is there a girl for me out there who possesses these qualities that would also dig me in such a regard? Probably not. But as a romantic at least the ideal is there and the child in me will always hold onto that as I dont think any man here can disagree with me that when you experience a woman like that, you never look back. I know Im probably talking about a completely different thing than your talking about its just that when I read what you said I get sick of the whole idea that many regular folk adhere to. I’m a person. Not a financial statement. Not a list of pros and cons. Not a athletes statistical breakdown. ---
**Author:** ![jnoel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jnoel/32/650_2.png) [@jnoel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jnoel)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/32 "2011-01-16T21:50:30Z")
olfact, i sure hope theres more than one girl out there like that, i dont want to have to fight you over her btw i read that “check book” comment to fast, it looked like the letters came together and you said “not for the size of my \_\_\_\_\_” well you get the idea lol ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496/33 "2011-01-16T22:35:44Z")
> [@jnoel](#): > > olfact, > > i sure hope theres more than one girl out there like that, i dont want to have to fight you over her > > btw i read that “check book” comment to fast, it looked like the letters came together and you said “not for the size of my \_\_\_\_\_” well you get the idea lol Well considering we live in the same domain put me down for the showdown 😉 Sexual compatibility isnt my arena of expertise although is very very valid and relevant. In case you need “size of checkbook” evaluation I will refer you to Micka, Tisha and Bella for further _cough_ assistance 😃 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-p83-and-meo-est/44496.md?page=1)