# Panda's Phero Adventures

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [August 11, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300 "2008-08-11T04:00:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/42 "2008-08-26T15:07:16Z")

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Lol didn’t go to school again. I made a big old order though.

30 ml/5mcg of the following  
TAA  
Beta Androstenol  
P74  
[P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/)  
P83  
6 pippettes  
5 togo bottles  
1 regular bottle

I ordered 3 togos for a buddy of mine and he’s gonna pay me back for em. Got Turn Up The Heat, instant shine 2x and instant honesty.

I accidentally ordered MX103 which is the spray version of A314. Lol… i think i’mma pour half of it into a togo and give the other half to my buddy as a going away to college present cause he LOVES A314 but couldn’t afford the big bottle of it. Wow lots of stuff to try. I won’t be trying the liquid A314 in a business setting for now because i have almost closed 2 of my largest accounts ever and i’d like to stick with tried and true.

EDIT:  
Dude the referral discount is sweet. I have like 4 friends that are interested in buying pheros after testing mine 1 or 2 times. I got 48 bucks off my last order cause of it. Thanks alot androtics. I wrote you guys lots of notes in my order hope you get them :]

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/43 "2008-08-26T16:59:42Z")

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Products Used: A314, Instant shine 2x, Instant honesty togo 2x, Turn Up The Heat  
Hit Quality: A314(1 drop wrist), [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x (5 sprays hair/neck/wrists), Instant honesty togo 2x (3 sprays wrists wipe on hair), TUTH (2 sprays chest) - Social: 10 (daytime), Sexual: 7-8 (daytime)

Wow what am amazing day. Ok here is an idea i got to test new mixes. Go into the bank and chat up the tellers. The bank tellers are always extra out going and friendly with me. Right after i sprayed the TUTH and A314 i went to the bank (maybe 5 min inbetween). I could tell she was a little uneasy but after i started cracking jokes about how getting a check in the mail you don’t expect is like finding money in your pocket she opened up. This is a GREAT mix.

Ok so here is the plan for the day: Pickup my long term friend from school (thats what i call her in earlier posts), hang with her, then go home. Heres what ended up happening.

I’m waiting in the parking lot with my windows up and system on. The windows are tinted to 5% so its impossible to see in. The system is loud enough for people to feel it in other cars. This car with 2 emo/hippy/very beautiful chicks pulls up next to me (what luck!). They are both high as shit. The girl in the passengers seat is freaking out cause of mys ystem trying to see who is in the car. It was funny. I turned it down and opened the window and said do you always creep on people with loud speakers? :]. They laughed and were like your a senior, how do we not know you blah blah blah blah. After chatting for 5 min i’m like ok gotta go and she is like WAIT i gotta get your number ur tight as fuck (yes!). I’m like ok and she gets my name (lol) and then i start talking to her friends who are now outside the car for like 2 min. Then i’m like ok i gotta go guys peace and she yells wait i didnt get it yet! hehe. God i’m so bad sometimes. I gave it and picked up long term friend. (well call emo girl HBemo from now on)

Ok long term friend is pretty tight. I pick her up and we go to visit another of our friends. We rub hands and legs and the usual but i’ve come to expect that out of them because they are touchy girls by nature. We smoke cigarretes out in mutual friends car. Mutual friend kept rubbing on me infront of her boyfriend but she does that so i didn’t pay much attention, however when smoking she sat in a way that i could just barely almost see what was going on down there. Usual arm hitting and we chatted for like 15 min after Long term friend had to leave.

Then before i go home i get a txt from HBemo witht he usual. We get past smalltalk and we decide we should meet up cause she is doing photography. We met up and hung for like 2 hours with her friend. She took lots of pictures of me 😛. They are into alot of the same stuff as me so it was nice. She invited me back to her friends house for macaroni. We chilled for like 30 min there. I didn’t have a good chance to initiate very much kino but when i lightly touched her leg then pulled away she tried to touch me back (i avaided then touched her again :]). We smoked a cig outside and i followed her to her house (her house is close to where i was going). On the way there she kept texting me and we drove next to each other. I gave her a high speed flash of the pierced nipple. Being a HBemo she was really digging it. She keeps txting the rest of night.

I go to this sports bar castlers afterwards. I meet my buddy there. He got there before me and told the hostest to look for me and to seat me. He also told her he was breaking up with me but not to say anything cause i don’t know yet… lol. She was acting extra nice with me the whole night. My buddy and I ate and did the usual then he bounced and i went 2 my car. I see the hostest sitting a cigarrete in the car next to mine. She opened me with “wow dont let your door hit mine.” which i responded with “haha do you always tell strangers what to do” or something stupid like that. She was all over me and she is EXTRA talkative. I noticed with this mix people didn’t let me talk as much because they had SOOOO much stuff to say. She would ask a question then jsut keep talking lol. We talked for probably 30 min and smoked a few cigs. I just got my hair dyed black with purple tint so maybe that is part of the attention i’m getting. I left after 30 min and she looked sad i didn’t ask for her number but i didnt see that going anywhere but i had fun keeping her company and i think it made her day 😃.

I didn’t respond to HBemo at diner (i never do for anyone). She txt me while i’m on my way home with “you don’t txt much do you.” I knew i was in after that point. I told her the story about my buddy saying he was gonna break up with me lol. Afterwards i said wow you would totally be my type if i wasn’t gay. She said i knew that was coming. When i asked why she said “because your too good to be true.” God that is such a great line. Anyways I’ll give you a sample of one of her txts from an hour later. “I am crazy when i’m drunk but i won’t molest you. Unless you want me too 😉.”

Wow this day was amazing. :].

My Ex is gone and i’m starting to miss her. We dated for 3 years and shes my best friend. O well she is giving me picture updates of canada. Its kinda nice to see.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/44 "2008-08-28T02:27:49Z")

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Products Used: A314, [Instant shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x, [Instant honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) togo 2x, [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/), [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)  
Hit Quality: A314(1 drop wrist), [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x (5 sprays hair/neck/wrists), [Instant honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) togo 2x (3 sprays wrists wipe on hair), [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) (2 sprays chest), Instant Female Magic (1 spray back of neck) - Social: 9 (daytime), Sexual: 7 (daytime)

Used the same mix as before (edit) _plus instant female magic (didn’t notice any effects yet)_. It’s becoming tried and true. I’m loving this mix even more. Itenorary to be talked about in this post:

1. Hung out with HBemo… Man this chick is banging.
2. Went to work at the snackbar.
3. Came home to my parents eating diner with a gay couple. I was a little shocked but they were funny and i liked them :]. (nothing to do with pheros except one of the gay guys was eye raping me but i don’t blame him LOL)

Ok

First up HBemo. We went to a little town today. Its a bar/shopping town. She is hella flirting all day. Initiated some kino. I showed her how to shotgun (mouth2mouth exchange of something, usually smoke). She liked this and it is a nice excuse to start major kino but stay kinda under the radar. Dont do this with cigarrettes. Lol. I know kids who don’t smoke much will think to do this. Don’t. Lol.

Ok so i forgot about that. That was good. She is making jokes like “omg haha we totally have to get married.” etc etc. I taught her to drive a stick. I think this was congruent with the A314 cause she kept saying she didn’t want to fuck up my car blah blah blah and that she’d seen other people epically fail at it. She started/stopped 5-6 times without a stall due to my elite coaching. She made plans for a day3 and day4 already. Wow she is booking my time! Maybe i will turn down day4 and then follow up with day5. I need to adjust my spray for less social and more sexual soon.

Ok i probably bored you with that part because its just me rambling about some new girl i met and not about pheros. Ok i’m going to keep this more on topic 😛.

1. The country club was boring. Only had 6 customers. People who were unfriendly became friendly after 30 seconds in my presense. I was very friendly and offered things they needed. Most stopped to listen to me ramble on about what i was watching on the travel channel. They seemed genuinly interested. One of my business contacts i recently met informed me he is passing my name around. We talked for probably 10 min. He really likes me and he is going to get some information for his system at work. Talking for 10 min is unusual because a golf coarse is usually a hit the ball talk inbetween hits not a lets sit and talk kinda thing.

Anyways this is a great mix for me. I’m going to add some alpha-androstonal (instant openness) when i get ahold of some everclear. I have the 2x version and it is too strong. I also plan on adding some of the components of steveO’s ICM 0.25.1b mix after testing them as i think they will compliment my mix. I’m excited to see what happens.

I’ve noticed pheros will put me in a better mood and because of a good headspace good things will happen to me. Check out the secret by rhonda bird (mighta spelled her last name wrong). It is good. Even if you don’t believe in it per say it will definitly increase your quality of life if you stick to it’s ideas.

PS: i’ve got my tattoo appointment for next friday the 5th so hopefully that goes well.

EDIT:  
In regards to HBemo i think that the mix has allowed me to initiate alot of kino without a cover and have her be ok with it. I did mystery’s put her arm on yours then calibrate with “thats all you get” and she said why?! :].

She is 5’11" Natural bright blond hair. Skinny to be a runway model, well almost, u gotta be a twig. Idk why but i’m attracted to runway model type of bodies even though i’m only 5’11"

Her friends seem to like me too.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/45 "2008-08-28T15:46:39Z")

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My order just arrived. Can’t wait to try this stuff out. I’ll prolly try them over the next few weeks before i get anything toooo juicy out of them. My package arrived 2 days after ordering. Nice! However it is missing my MX103 which is a bummer because i was gonna give it to my buddy before he left for college but i’ll see him next weekend. He has a high affinity for the regular A314 and it makes him THE man.

I got a call into Androtics so i’ll let you know how they take care of it :]

EDIT

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They are out of MX103. They will ship me mx104 or mx105 (if instock), or just hit me up with a GC.

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For my next post  
Products used: A314, TAA, IH2x togo  
Hit Quality: A314(1 drop wrist), TAA@10mcg (wrist), IH2xtogo (3 sprays wrist and hair)

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/46 "2008-08-29T01:34:25Z")

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For my next post  
Products used: A314, [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/), IH2x togo  
Hit Quality: A314(1 drop wrist), [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/)@10mcg (wrist), IH2xtogo (3 sprays wrist and hair) - Sexual: 8, Social: 9

Ok short and sweet.

My with my councilor. Even though i did nothing i said i was gonna do last time we met he still went out of his way to help me. I genuinely thanked him for that. Assistant principal said i seemed like i had alot of life experience even though i was 18 which was a nice compliment.

Hung out with HBemo again today for about 30 min. Her and her friend were getting high. It was pretty funny. I noticed when the stopped focusing on getting high and started relaxing she would initiate kino a ton with me. I definitly see a relationship forming. We have a little date saturday which i’ll post results for.

After that i went to some car dealerships. If you drive a 2006-2008 (the newer the better) that is a pretty nice car (and you keep it in good condition) you should try this out. Go to dealership. Say you bought your car and your just not happy with it and you need a little more oomph under the hood. When they ask if your gonna buy today say its a possibilty but i need to find a car i love first. Let them sell you. Perk up a little when they say the car you want to test drive. Get in it and comment on how nice it feels etc. If he wants to talk numbers decline first and say you’d like to test it out. Rinse and repeat at different dealerships.

Now i’m actually in the market to trade my Civic Si in for a 350z, bmw 1 series etc. I noticed that the more aggressive the sales person the less likely i could get a test drive. I’ve noticed this on one other occasion. I recommend higher dose of A314 with a bit of socials.

Not much to report but i did whip up some of SteveO’s ICM 0.25.1b today and i intend on testing it in a couple days (gotta let it age). Lol it only takes me 6 sprays to get a correct mcg dose of his sprays :].

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2008, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/47 "2008-08-31T08:06:28Z")

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I’ve tested SteveO’s ICM 0.25.1b mix. It’s spectacular. Try adding 2½-5mcg of -none to really give it a monster kick. I’ll report later but i definitely turned up the heat major with HBemo i’ve been talkinga bout.

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/48 "2008-09-05T02:11:33Z")

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Small update. HBemo is digging my game. She responds exceptionally well to -none if i’m trying to get it like that.

I haven’t done much experimenting the last few days. I’m still making new friends but i hope to do some trials with the Putatives i have by themselves next week.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/50 "2008-09-16T03:38:28Z")

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Products Used: Beta Androstenol, Instant shine 2x, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 2x, A314  
Hit Quality:  
Beta Androstenol @ 10mcg - Sexual: 6, Social: 8  
Instant Shine 2x (5 sprays), Instant Honesty 2x togo (3 sprays), Beta -Androstenol (10mcg) - Sexual (girls): 3, Sexual (guys): 8, Social (girls): 8, Social (girls): 10

Wow so alot has happened. I wrote a Beta Androstenol report somewhere. I did a blind study on my buddy. 2 sprays directly to the face (10mcg total). His effects were instant (he knows what pheros are but had no idea what it was supposed to do or what it was). He immediately began talking at a high rate of pace. We both became very giddy laughing at the smallest jokes. THis subsided after 5 minutes but a good overall feeling continued with accuatinces.

Anyways. This is my experiance with Instant Shine 2x at 5 sprays, Honesty 2x at 3 sprays and 10 mcg of beta Androstenol.

Let’s start at school. I walk into class 40 min late. I am dressed VERY fly today. Heres a shitty picture to go with it :]. [http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v335/36/60/729820111/n729820111\_4166468\_9528.jpg](http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v335/36/60/729820111/n729820111_4166468_9528.jpg)

Anyways thats alot of dressing up for school. I am expecting MAD attention from the girls. I don’t really get it. I get usually smiles and hellos. The occasional conversation. However from the guys i get “god damn dude you look like a fucking rockstar” and other gestures of male approval. The 2 highest value males in my class instantly came over and chatted when we were supposed to make groups. They both asked me for my number and invited me to do stuff this weekend (4 days away still). My teacher kind of helped because she told someone in class to call to find out where i was and no one has my number since i’m new. Guys were bending over backwards to help me.

One of those guys tracks me down at lunch and says we need to go to lunch together. We leave and his buddy comes with us. He calls his friend and says i have an awesome car and we should race. He also stated i’m cool as shit and we would get along great. Much props. I raced an acura integra. Lost but we had fun.

Next class i chat with the usual kids. My buddy colton is sitting next to me. I notice him being very attentive to what i say. (no male sexual hits up until this point). I turn around and start talking to a gay kid in our class. I always talk to him, he is VERY VERY shy. Today he talks about all kinds of stuff and we ended up getting into an argument about if he should botton his collar or not. He ended up complimenting my watch and being a little seductive. I easily resisted (lol) and went back to studying.

Next class i sit next to girl i have mucho rapport with. She wants me and has said so. I let her kiss me on the cheek (last week). Today she was friendly. Not as talkative but much more physical. She would run her fingers on my neck and play with my hair. She usually doesn’t do this IN class.

Anyways take it or leave it but beta Androstenol is a freaking interesting molecule. I will take respect hits from high value guys anytime over some silly sexual hits. High value guys = high value women every time.

EDIT:

Also i did a computer repair for my gay neighbor. I replace his powersupply with one of my old ones plus configed some email program and fixed his internet connection. Overall i charged him for 1 hour of work (50) plus the powersupply (15). 65 total and he paid me 100 and told me to keep the change. Nice! My first tip and it was 35 dollars. He recommended me like 30 times to his lady friend that was over and she has a friend who is in dire need so i also bagged more business!

EDIT2: One of the high value guys i mentioned just commented on my facebook picture (of what i was wearing today):  
“yup i sat next to you today good looking.  
i couldnt keep my eye off those jeans = )  
haha im jp bro no homo, but u got taste. holla”

Also both of the high value guys confirmed our plans for the weekend.

My ex girlfriend who is in canada for school is being annoying. I need to phero spray her in the face lol.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/51 "2008-09-16T19:23:43Z")

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High value guys go on facebook and comment on guys’ jeans? Just a thought 🙂

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/52 "2008-09-16T21:55:14Z")

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Haha yes. I do. I am extremely into fashion and so are others :].

They are both high value guys i have seen the other high value guys they hang around. lol… and girls.

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/53 "2008-09-18T01:50:56Z")

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Great; another fellow IT guy! As a consultant as well, I think we’ll think very much alike. You’re in sales and I’m semi sales and more development based, but judging by your posts, I think we’re of the same mindset.

So, tell me a little more about A314. Have you done absolutely all you could think of to reduce the placebo effect? When you apply your two drops, specifically where do you apply them? Is it directly under your chin for both drops or do you do one to the front of your chin and the other on you forehead? Stuff like that.

I’m wondering if I need just one drop or two. I’ve already built up the creds, but I think I’d like to apply two drops and simply be the shit.

Heeeeeeeeeey, I think I just got an idea on this. Suppose I use this in a game to distract the other team. If they immediately cue in on me, I could be a distraction, draw the double team instantly, and let my teammates just hammer it out. Then when the enemy trys to adjust, I can then unlease an attack. This is going to be fun…

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/54 "2008-09-18T02:01:22Z")

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Haha yes. I do. I am extremely into fashion and so are others :].

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I second that. I love to shop for clothing, and I’m very particular about what I wear. Suits have to be cut just a certain way. Jeans have to fit correctly, and while I desire comfort, I will sacrifice a little comfort to get a cut that shows off my legs and rear. If I work hard to build and maintain it, I’m certainly going to let the ladies have a show.

Shoes. Hoodies. Watches and accessories. You name it; it’s important.

I’m starting to like Panda more and more. Isn’t it fun when someone finds out you’re in IT and yet are fashionably dressed instead of the sterotypical hermit that lives in his parent’s basement? We’re bringing da bling to IT yo! 🆒

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/55 "2008-09-18T03:17:21Z")

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haha yes i love IT. OK pardon my post cause i have been pretty heavily drinking 😛.

When you talk about using it in games for double teaming what are you talking about? Aslo what is your age? I’m 18 and i find 2 drops to be overpowering. If you are 23-30 then maybe 2+ is for you… It all depends on body chemistry. I found that if i wear 2 drops i get completely ghosted (no one will come talk to me) unless they are extreemly high value… this is NOT good for sales.

My usual mix for sales (especially since i’m selling well established 30-50 year old business men) is 1 drop of a314 to my left wrist and rubbed in with right + 3 sprays of isntant honesty 2x togo and 5 sprays of instant shine. This is a great mix. I have people tell me everything i need to know to get the job done and trust i will get it done. I take all clients work back to my house if i can’t diagnose and complete within 30 min. This prevents the gwaking effect where they sit and watch you work. This is horrible on my performance.

I don’t want to sound like a prick but i love to buy expensive stuff… cloths cars whatever. When people asks how i have this at 18 i always reply i’ve never let age stop me from mkaing money. Anyways what products do you have. Thanks for the compliments it means alot :].

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pandas-phero-adventures/17300/56 "2008-09-18T18:22:35Z")

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> [@iamstretchypanda](#):
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> Haha yes. I do. I am extremely into fashion and so are others :].
> 
> They are both high value guys i have seen the other high value guys they hang around. lol… and girls.

I mostly was talking about the facebook part. I was just making the point that high value males are fashionable (for the most part, or at least fashionable according to ‘the book’) but they probably don’t hang on online social networks to comment on their friend’s clothes. They’d probably just go get themselves some new jeans. 😛

But being fashionable doesn’t make you high value. It’s what you do with it all.

BBDA, the best way to find out is to try it yourself. Like Panda, I stick to 1 drop. If I want to get something done quickly with little fuss, I like 2 drops with some supporting pheromones, but I am not a nice guy. I’m a straight up dick, but I’m usually pissed I have to even get tough to get what I need done, done. I’m sure if I used 2 drops of A314 in a social situation, results would be different, and you can always buffer with other products/pheromones.

I don’t think the difference between 1 drop or 2 drops will be _that_ significant. Idle wears 4+ on a consistant basis, so you really need to just see what works for you.

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Haha phya you most not be in high school. On weeknights facebook is all the craze. There is not much else to do in the great state of indiana besides that or play vid games/watch tv. Thats prolly the same everywhere though.

I had a mad crazy hookup last night and when i went to class today i noticed i was getting some interesting hits (using one of my usual mixes). Maybe there were cops from the hookup that effected peoples reactions. I’d like to experiment with this if i can expect decent reactions (meaning little poor reactions).

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Nope, I sure am not in high school. But as Wrlprchnx said, I do miss high school sometimes, college is fun, but it’s like a..welcome to reality, at times. Maybe I’m just in school with the borderline dropouts to begin with (says a lot about me, no?), but it seems that more than a couple people fall apart upon getting to college.

So far, it’s been fun, exciting, depressing and crazy. HS was crazy, but this is different. When shit happened, it was either just drama or some temporary setback, it sucked but it usually wasn’t life changing – of course there are exceptions. You know though, it’s not so much college as actually being held accountable for _all_ of your actions. I know that one year makes a difference. Basically from now on, I get my shit done or I’m done, and I guess that’s hard for some people to accept. High school was the shit in a way.

But I digress. I’m only 21, I’m not hella old. I know how big myspace and facebook is for some people. I’m a little miffed Facebook opened up to high school students and regular people. I liked that everyone was college age..

I find it ironic that computers and the internet, once the domain of “low-value” guys is now, apparently, a place where ‘high-value’ guys get to play.

Never been to Indiana..what..no sneaking out on weeknights? I remember waiting till midnight, sneaking out quietly, picking a couple people up and going racing throughout the week. 😃 Or just going out to a park to get trashed. I thought places with nothing to do partied more. 🙂

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haha i gotta take it easy my partying got me in trouble and i gotta prove i am not a partier for 7 more months of probation lol.

Anyways i think i am going to redirect my goals to focus on medium term instead of short term instant gratification type things. I’ve been reading A New Earth Awakening to Your Life’s Purpose by Eckhart Tolle and its been very interesting. Been making me focus on getting rid of the ego god complex i developed from reading pickup books.

My business deals close much easier with A314.

Went to chicago this weekend and had pretty good hits with one of my mixes consisting of beta-nol, p83, p93, p74, and TAA. If you have seen these posts before i have upped the beta nol by 2mcg and upped the TAA by 1 and uppded the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I like beta nol, TAA, and P83. Tisha told me i was using 100mcg of taa daily with 5 sprays of shine 2x. Must be why i never see results with 25 mcg of taa by it self. Lol

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Products Used: P79, TAA, Instant shine 2x  
Hit Quality:  
P79 (30mcg), Instant shine 2x (4 sprays) - Social: 9, Business: 9.5, Sexual: N/A  
P79 (40mcg), TAA (30mcg), Instant shine 2x (3 sprays) - Social: 8.5, Sexual: 8, Business: N/A

Ok. It has been awhile since i updated. I’ve been testing and i have come to LOVE p79. I am not really sure what it does but i have noticed it gives a good social vibe. Very upbeat. Not spacey as a -nol. Maybe like B -nol with a bit more leadership involved. I’ve only tested a handful of times so take this with a grain of salt.

First Mix. I wore the first mix to a clients office. He was the only one there (out of 10 employees). He lost all of his data due to a virus and him trying to reinstall windows. I had an o shit feeling and he did too haha. I made small talk and got to work. I started doing diagnostics and ran a few programs. He took me to lunch while the programs ran. We talked for a good hour.

I ended up getting all his data off. He was very grateful. The aura between our interaction versus previous was on a much more personal and friendly level. I could sense a trust bond being formed while the business aura was still there in the office it completely dissapated during lunch.

Second Mix. I scrubbed off all the pheros and added the new mix (plus it had been 8ish hours since application). I hung out with a friends friend i met on facebook. This is our first time meeting in person at her house alone in her basement watching a movie. Haha talk about potential to be awkward. It wasn’t. Immediately i felt her forming a trust bond like before with alot of joking and such. Good for relation building. I howerver did not feel the same. She is much more fun to talk to over the internet lol. She tried a few moves on me sexualy but i politely declined and left a bit later. Good hits though.

I have noticed that P79 has not helped me form a sexual trust bond like instant honesty has. I’m all out of IH 2x right now but i would like to mix them during pickup in the future.

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Hey i have noticed you haven’t used ammo. What do you think of the product. I see instant honesty is working wonders for you.

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It was my very first product i tried. I have only used it once and i don’t think i really saw any results but i wasn’t as clued into what to look for as i am now. Ammo just doesn’t peak my interests. I have my own colognes and i feel i get much more refined results by using a combination of pheromones to achieve results specific to my taste (business and women).

My ideal mix would be something that i can wear in any situation and will give me results in business and women. That way if i’m out meeting women and i have a business oriented encounter i won’t have any negative vibes coming off. The biggest phero that concerns me is none since it gives such an obvious reaction. I’ve been noticing that alot of users use none in almost all of their “pickup” mixes and i’d like to change that because i cannot form a strong emotional connection with people when i wear -none. It has too many side effects.

Have you tried out honesty yet? It’s really interesting. I’ve just used one togo but it is great.

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