# Panic attack? or development of social anxiety.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 16, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996 "2008-12-16T05:22:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![woostar88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@woostar88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/woostar88)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/1 "2008-12-16T05:22:30Z")

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I am 20 years old, and more so recently i’ve been thinking too much and bringing negativity among peers.

I’ve been using [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), A2D1(forgot the exact name), Ammo.

That been said, one day, i’ve been having these thoughts about life, social, how people connect…

I get confused to talking to a friend who is a ‘girl’… and all of sudden automatically just getting into her head. And she’s been giving me hints about it. (clearing throats.) And i keep telling her that she’s only a friend. (by the way i have no interest in her).

And with my friends, i become overly insecure and end up getting into their head and get my self confused. (again, automatically…) I don’t know if this is a social phobia or anxiety.

I’ve been stop using pheromones just in case, if this problem was the cause of it.  
And all my friends are telling me that i talk, like a their dad or some old people.

I still have negativity and thoughts and feelings wondering around in my head. I almost forgot who really i am. meaning I feel like having a outer body experience. Deer in headlight?

anyways, one of my buddy knows that im going through such a phase or social anxiety…

My questions is… after telling my story, do you think that pheromone has impacted my social life? Epically i realized social phobia when spraying pheromones and smoke some bowl…

help me out with my situation

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**Author:** ![BlueLotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c57346/32.png) [@BlueLotus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlueLotus)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/2 "2008-12-16T08:13:14Z")

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I was reading your post and just kept waiting when you’re gonna mention the “smoke some bowl” but you left it at the end 🙂  
It’s the weed my friend, you need to give it a rest. I went through the same stuff but kept on smoking and ended up with some issues that took a while to solve. So my warmest advice to you is to give the weed a rest for a few months or definetly don’t use it more often then say once or twice a month. Use it don’t abuse it. I have a feeling that half the people say it’s as bad as heroin and the other half say it’s a miracle medicine herb. They are both wrong.  
Good luck

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**Author:** ![rookiez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85e7bf/32.png) [@rookiez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rookiez)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/3 "2008-12-16T08:38:40Z")

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If you sprayed with any IS or [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) while Too much, it will be possible make you confused with them by communicate. Because it is highly effective like depression or excitation. I suggest that you can spray with IS two time that it all. They would not bother with you. If you want any woman bother with you then you can spray IS plus Ammo or TTH for 2-4 times.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 10:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/4 "2008-12-16T10:07:05Z")

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Well you have already proven these thoughts of yours are unrelated to mones. You stopped using mones and they still persist.

I suggest you see a doctor, no offense but it sounds like you have schizophrenia or something. Its not something that can be brought on by mones or everyone would have it. Mones are natually occuring in everyones bodies and you are exposed to them everyday.

Then again you can just stop smoking whats in that bowl and your problems will stop. Mones do not cause social phobia but drugs can.

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> My questions is… after telling my story, do you think that pheromone has impacted my social life? Epically i realized social phobia **when spraying pheromones and smoke some bowl…**

I hate to be blunt but I dont think you should really be using mones till you deal with your other issues.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/5 "2008-12-16T13:48:57Z")

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I have to agree with Tisha and BlueLotus.

The first thing you need to do is stop smoking or using whatever it is you are you using. It is a crutch that only creates more problems then it seems to help with.

The second thing you need to do os really monitor yourself. If these thoughts continue or get worse without whatever is in that bowl, then Tisha is right - you need to see a medical/psychological professional. a lot of people who do not know they have a psychological condition self-medicate with drugs. Much beeter to see a medical professional, find out what is the problem and move forward from there.

Don’t get me wrong - I am not saying there is a problem past the “bowl” but if there is one, you will be much happier and will be able to move forward with your life once you tackle it appropriately.

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**Author:** ![woostar88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@woostar88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/woostar88)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/6 "2008-12-17T02:34:24Z")

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> [@BlueLotus](#):
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> I was reading your post and just kept waiting when you’re gonna mention the “smoke some bowl” but you left it at the end 🙂  
> It’s the weed my friend, you need to give it a rest. I went through the same stuff but kept on smoking and ended up with some issues that took a while to solve. So my warmest advice to you is to give the weed a rest for a few months or definetly don’t use it more often then say once or twice a month. Use it don’t abuse it. I have a feeling that half the people say it’s as bad as heroin and the other half say it’s a miracle medicine herb. They are both wrong.  
> Good luck

you know what, i think you are right. I’ve been smoking since last year, and yes i did gave it a rest for about 2 months. and yes, my mind is so much clean and think much better, but so much thoughts are wondering in my mind… It bothers me. But i try not to think so much and magical herb has made me miss many opportunities.

thank you for the inputs!

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/7 "2008-12-17T04:25:33Z")

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Well, it ain’t the weed or the mones. It’s you. Grab ahold of yourself and get it together: plant your feet on the ground, work out significant goals and strive towards these goals. Think big. The little BS stuff with your friends is not important in the long run. Most of my college friends were losers and the more distance I put between them and their silly games, the more productive I became. You might need outside help/advice/counseling.

However I agree weed is not helpful if you’re not 100% together as it tends to encourage paranoia and attention to useless details.

With all that said, I certain enjoyed the coffeeshops in Amsterdam last summer. Wouldn’t wanna do that everyday or even biweekly. Never get anything done…

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**Author:** ![BlueLotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c57346/32.png) [@BlueLotus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlueLotus)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/8 "2008-12-17T10:04:45Z")

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> [@woostar88](#):
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> you know what, i think you are right. I’ve been smoking since last year, and yes i did gave it a rest for about 2 months. and yes, my mind is so much clean and think much better, but so much thoughts are wondering in my mind… It bothers me. But i try not to think so much and magical herb has made me miss many opportunities.
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> thank you for the inputs!

It will take a while until you regain complete stability. The more you smoke, the longer it takes, it’s very simple. I understand about thoughts wondering in your mind, that’s just a part of it sorry. It will go away, just takes some time. Try not to take them too seriously and get stressed about it because it solves nothing. Let them float, you just need time. Get busy with studying or whatever it is you are doing.  
Another suggestion I’d like to give you is to start drinking green tea. Not the one in the baggies from nestle or whatever but the regular green tea. It promotes clearness of thought, eases anxiety a bit and has a million benefits. Again, nothing magick about it, just a good thing. Also, meditation would be very useful, if you’re not opposed to trying something new and wierd 😉 Meditation is about letting your thoughts go and not getting attached to them. So you figure out if it would benefit you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/9 "2008-12-17T20:47:33Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> Well, it ain’t the weed or the mones. It’s you. Grab ahold of yourself and get it together: plant your feet on the ground, work out significant goals and strive towards these goals. Think big. The little BS stuff with your friends is not important in the long run. Most of my college friends were losers and the more distance I put between them and their silly games, the more productive I became. You might need outside help/advice/counseling.
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> However I agree weed is not helpful if you’re not 100% together as it tends to encourage paranoia and attention to useless details.

I’ll be the first to confess that I’m a bonafide stoner. 😃 And as a stoner, my first thought regarding your post was exactly what BlueLotus said: It’s the weed.

Now, to clarify, I agree wholeheartedly with Gegogi. It isn’t specifically the weed, but how it plays a role in your life. If you stay productive and focused, then it’s not really a big deal. But if you can’t stay on track and it seems to be more of a barrier than a bridge, perhaps you should reevaluate it’s role in your life.

Here’s another way to go about it. Keep smoking, but force yourself out of the bad habits. IMO, that’s even harder than quitting cold turkey. To me, that’s powerful because you’re consciously integrating good habits, while eliminating bad ones. If you can do that while smoking weed, I think you’ll be just fine.

I speak from experience, and at times I get stuck too. That might mean instead of taking another hit, just enjoy the level that you’re on and go party. Later, you can always smoke again. Then again, who knows. Maybe I’m just self-medicating and I’m biased. I’ve been smoking for a long time, it’ll probably take me a long time to ‘gain stability’ as BlueLotus said. Then again, at this moment, I don’t plan on it. 😛

As far as the negativity goes, sober or not, forget about it. Are you going to keep talking about negative things once you stop smoking weed? No, if you are preoccupied with the negative things in your life, you’ll still be preoccupied with them, weed or not. If you have such inclinations, you’ll be negative no matter what, the weed only serving to forcibly push down the negative feeling you harbor. If you maintain positive thoughts, you’ll be positive sober or high.

My best advice to you, and, incidentally the advice passed from my father to me is: Just keep doing things. If you get stuck in your thoughts, take action immediately and you’ll quickly forget about being lost in your thoughts. Go play some pick up basketball, soccer, snowboard, play music, draw, write, **do something, anything**. You head will clear as soon as you take action.

Gegogi’s advice is along those lines when he says work out goals and take strides towards those goals. He’s saying, do something productive. I’m saying just do something. 😛 Either way, it’ll clear your head.

I’ve been consistently going to the gym and hitting my books, and it clears my head every time. Hope that helps.

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**Author:** ![M\_P](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/m_p/32/1633_2.png) [@M\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_P)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/10 "2009-01-01T18:28:47Z")

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A similar thing happened to me as well. I’m 21 now and I was a big stoner all throughout high school up until a few months ago. It used to be a lot of fun at first..everything is funny and you feel good…but eventually it turns into a routine where it’s not fun anymore but you just keep doing it. Most recently before quitting, I just used it to get to sleep because I thought that without it, I couldnt (turns out I was wrong 😛). One night, it gave me a bad panic attack to a point where I thought I had to go to the hospital (just paranoia of course) after which I quit. It’s been a huge difference ever since…no more paranoid thoughts, head feels clearer, I seem more outgoing and better able to keep up a conversation..and most importantly, the anxiety is now gone. I know how most people say it relieves anxiety, but I’ve heard of many cases including mine where it does the opposite. So the bottom line is quit soon and enjoy the new you 😃

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**Author:** ![woostar88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@woostar88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/woostar88)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panic-attack-or-development-of-social-anxiety/23996/11 "2009-03-22T20:24:01Z")

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> [@M\_P](#):
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> A similar thing happened to me as well. I’m 21 now and I was a big stoner all throughout high school up until a few months ago. It used to be a lot of fun at first..everything is funny and you feel good…but eventually it turns into a routine where it’s not fun anymore but you just keep doing it. Most recently before quitting, I just used it to get to sleep because I thought that without it, I couldnt (turns out I was wrong 😛). One night, it gave me a bad panic attack to a point where I thought I had to go to the hospital (just paranoia of course) after which I quit. It’s been a huge difference ever since…no more paranoid thoughts, head feels clearer, I seem more outgoing and better able to keep up a conversation..and most importantly, the anxiety is now gone. I know how most people say it relieves anxiety, but I’ve heard of many cases including mine where it does the opposite. So the bottom line is quit soon and enjoy the new you 😃

Sober from weed is definitely the way to go. No more negative thoughts, and it seem like on going conversation is smoother than before. Just like what you said. “new you”… this does effect the changes in my life. which is positive thing. Anyways, I started using pheros again, and I see the main difference from being high 24/7 and sober.
