# Paradox's paradoxes-The Ravings of an Alchemist

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [September 25, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527 "2011-09-25T17:24:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/21 "2011-10-22T22:37:27Z")

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Would love to hear another A1 megadose test from you. Maybe I’ll join in that test later this week!

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/22 "2011-10-22T23:36:03Z")

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> [@delocc](#):
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> Would love to hear another A1 megadose test from you. Maybe I’ll join in that test later this week!

To tell the truth it’s not a real megadose test because with oil you have to mix 7 to 1. Not only that but you have to use an oil that diffuses the Pheromone properly. I’ve read that fractionated coconut oil works for this purpose.

Using a scented oil has allowed me to wear 100+ mcg’s of A-1 with no problem.

A-1 used to be the darling of pheromone enthusiasts but has lost it’s appeal probably because of the depression side effect. It is still a staple in many premixed products because the self effects are counteracted by using uplifting pheromones.

You can test it by using a scented oil and mixing at about a 1 to 1 ratio. Let it sit for about 2 weeks. Shake it once a day.

Testing A-1 in oil is not a priority for me because A-1 does not have drawing power. A-1 is a comfort pheromone.

I have already worked with A-1 and if I put it in a mix it will probably be at 75 mcg’s…and I will have to find a uplifter that will not interfere with the rest of the mix

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**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/23 "2011-10-23T01:10:49Z")

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So much to learn even after constant gleaning of journals- At doses below 75mcg, did you see much purpose even as a comfort pheromone? By ‘drawing’ power do you mean purposes more conducive to attraction stages?

I’ll have to try and recreate your dose, maybe. I’m a gay male, so I should avoid any of the depressive side effects. It’ll be curious to see what self-effects arise.

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/24 "2011-10-23T11:35:11Z")

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> [@delocc](#):
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> So much to learn even after constant gleaning of journals- At doses below 75mcg, did you see much purpose even as a comfort pheromone?

K-train has an excellent guide to A-1 which includes dilution, effects and dosages here: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-guide/37668)

> [@delocc](#):
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> By ‘drawing’ power do you mean purposes more conducive to attraction stages?

When I say ‘drawing’ I mean space closing attraction…curiosity like you get with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/).

> [@delocc](#):
>
> I’ll have to try and recreate your dose, maybe. I’m a gay male, so I should avoid any of the depressive side effects. It’ll be curious to see what self-effects arise.

There are other postings regarding A-1. The thing with A-1 is that not all men get depressed when using it. Some do. Androtics used to make IFM which contained A-1 but stopped making it when it was reported that A-1 may cause depression in men.

I think that was a mistake only because I believe people should be given the option to use it or not. Just my opinion.

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/25 "2011-10-28T01:24:43Z")

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No name test mix

Mixed into a togo

3 sprays TUTH @2.5  
9 sprays IS @2.5  
3 drops A-1  
1 spray Beta nol @ 12.5  
1 spray P79 @12.5  
3 sprays RONE @2.5

Shaken not stirred. This would give me:

2.5 mcgs TUTH  
7.5 mcgs IS  
25 mcgs A-1  
4.15 mcgs Beta nol  
4.15 mcgs P79  
2.5 mcgs RONE

45.30 mcg’s per spray? My math is so bad. This looks wrong.

I will test this mix sometime soon.

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/26 "2011-10-28T14:01:36Z")

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Day 1 RONE test

**Day 1 RONE test**

Just got my bottle of RONE. I couldn’t wait to test it out. I did some research and there’s not much information on how RONE works. 2.5 mcgs per spray, [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scent

Everyone seems to agree that it’s a major component of A314.

Sprayed 1 spray at 2.5 mcg’s

**Self effects:** Nice feeling. Calm and relaxed. Peaceful. Not tired, just peaceful. It’s not the A314 Superman feeling. It’s a calm vibe.

**Time:** Applied at 1pm.

**Distance:** Unknown, untested

**Duration:** Unknown, untested

**Effects on others:** My boss who is a “yeller” (a boss who yells at you for making mistakes or just about anything, if it’s your fault or not) called me into his office. Not to talk bad about the company that I work for but this is the second boss that I’ve worked for in my life who yells. I came within 3 feet of him and suddenly the “yell” went away. He gave me instructions in a normal tone. I was sure he was going to yell. Yell suppressed. How cool is that?

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/27 "2011-10-28T14:27:20Z")

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Day 1 RONE + NONE

**Day 1 RONE + NONE**

1 spray RONE at 2.5 mcg’s  
2 sprays TUTH at 2.5 mcg’s

**Self effects:** Nice feeling. Calm and relaxed. Peaceful.

**Time:** Applied at 3pm.

**Distance:** Unknown, untested

**Duration:** Unknown, untested

**Effects on others:** I had to take a train today. An older woman sat across from me. She was about 3ft away. She crossed her legs showing her “Gams” (look it up…lol). When I came to my stop I started to get up and she asked me “Does this train go to Square station.” I replied yes and got off the train. Not sure if this is a hit but who gets on a train not knowing where it is going?

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/28 "2011-10-28T14:47:06Z")

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Day 2 Androsterone test

**Day 2 Androsterone test**

Sprayed 1 spray at 2.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) 's

**Self effects:** Nice feeling. Calm and relaxed. Peaceful.

**Time:** Applied at 8am.

**Distance:** Unknown, untested

**Duration:** Unknown, untested

**Effects on others:** My boss who is a “yeller” seems to have forgone yelling again today. LOL. It’s unprofessional anyway. In addition another manager who usually pokes at me because I am new was rather sedated today.

I am really liking RONE. I don’t want to OD on it. I will try this at 2 sprays soon. Maybe tonight.

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/29 "2011-10-28T16:37:20Z")

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Day 2 Androsterone test

**Day 2 Androsterone test**

1 spray at 2.5 mcg’s

**Self effects:** Nice feeling. Calm and relaxed. Peaceful.

**Time:** Applied at 8am. Refreshed at 11:30am

**Distance:** Unknown, untested

**Duration:** about 3 hours

**Effects on others:** My boss who is a “yeller” seems to have forgone yelling again today. LOL. It’s unprofessional anyway. In addition another manager who usually pokes at me because I am new was rather sedated today.

I am really liking Androsterone. I don’t want to OD on it. I will try this at 2 sprays soon. Maybe tonight

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/30 "2011-10-28T16:58:45Z")

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I have some rone in my mone tool kit and find a similar ‘calming’ effect on others. Though, from what I remember, it also does the same in self effects. I found that the duration of effects, in my case, would be at most, 2 hours.

In my experience, the rone doesn’t seem to pique attraction on its own.

You have some rone Good Times! 🙂

1A

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/31 "2011-10-28T17:57:43Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> I have some rone in my mone tool kit and find a similar ‘calming’ effect on others. Though, from what I remember, it also does the same in self effects. I found that the duration of effects, in my case, would be at most, 2 hours.
> 
> In my experience, the rone doesn’t seem to pique attraction on its own.
> 
> You have some rone Good Times! 🙂
> 
> 1A

Yes, I know a little bit about RONE. I know that RONE is 1/3 of the AMMO formula. I am also aware that it is a component of A314.

I’ve just never used it solo. I want to use it with some TUTH. Really what I want to do is create a custom mix.

I think that the mixer should check each ingredient of a mix before throwing them into the pot.

I am really testing RONE to see what the real solo effects are.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/32 "2011-10-28T18:06:21Z")

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I also have rone as well. I don’t recall the mu on it though.

Good to see your observations with it. I can rely on your sensible views of whatever your testing. I’ll be keeping an eye on your thread, interesting testing of rone!

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/33 "2011-10-28T18:33:29Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> In my experience, the rone doesn’t seem to pique attraction on its own.
> 
> You have some rone Good Times! 🙂
> 
> 1A

Oh yeah I almost forgot…one of my favorite colognes REALM had RONE in it. With Androtics I have the pure stuff to play with. I did get full cologne strength to test the distance/sillage though…

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/34 "2011-10-28T23:19:45Z")

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RONE + TUTH + IS test

RONE + TUTH + IS test

2 sprays RONE at 2.5 mcg’s  
1 spray TUTH at 2.5 mcg’s  
4 sprays IS at 2.5 mcg’s

I have been attempting to catch this elusive barmaid and have been testing everything under the sun on her.

I’ve tried Product X, Product Y, MX297, ICM 2.0, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and P83. Today I wore RONE + TUTH + IS. It’s still a no go with her. It gets busy but I can’t get more that 3 words out of her. She is a 9.5 HB and she is younger than me but that’s irrelevant.

She did respond to the following but not in a sexual flirty way.  
She talked to me briefly while I was wearing product X. She joined in a conversation while I was wearing MX297. When I first met her I was wearing 2 drops of A314.

Product X contains EST. MX297 will make just about any girl talk to you since it transforms you into an alpha female.

So now I’m thinking…one or more factors could be at play here:

1. She could be affected but trying to maintain a professional demeanor
2. She could have a boyfriend
3. She could be a hardcore “hired gun” who only responds to money (for some reason pheromones do not work on Hired Guns..go figure that one out!)
4. She could be plain not interested
5. She could be a lesbian

That’s alot of stuff to sort through. I may just go for 3x A314 and 1 TUTH Next time I see her.

Maybe she just needs some IO but I’m afraid that someone sitting next to me might start running off at the mouth.

We will see.

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/35 "2011-10-29T15:45:05Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> I also have rone as well. I don’t recall the mu on it though.
> 
> Good to see your observations with it. I can rely on your sensible views of whatever your testing. I’ll be keeping an eye on your thread, interesting testing of rone!

Wow! Thanks for the compliment. I try to see the molecule or mix for what it is and not for what’s been reported.

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/36 "2011-10-29T16:02:32Z")

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RONE is respect. Plain and simple.

\*\*Definition of \*RESPECT from [Respect - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/respect)

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1\*\*:\*\* a relation or reference to a particular thing or situation \<remarks having _respect_ to an earlier plan\>

2\*\*:\*\* an act of giving particular attention **:** [consideration](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consideration)

3_a_ **:** high or special regard **:** [esteem](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/esteem)_b_ **:** the quality or state of being [esteemed](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/esteem%5B2%5D)_c__plural_ **:** expressions of high or special regard or [deference](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deference) \<paid our _respect\*\*s_\>

4\*\*:\*\* [particular](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/particular), [detail](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/detail) \<a good plan in some _respect\*\*s_\>

— **in respect of** _chiefly British_ **:** with respect to **:** [concerning](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concerning)

— **in respect to**** : **with respect to** :** [concerning](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concerning)

— **with respect to**** : **with reference to** :** in relation to

**Examples of _RESPECT_**

1. He has earned their _respect_.
2. The soldier saluted as a sign of _respect_.
3. Despite our differences, I have enormous _respect_ for him.
4. I have a great _respect_ for his accomplishments.
5. I expect to be treated with _respect_.
6. Your theory makes sense in one _respect_.
7. The earth’s crust floats over a core of molten rock and some of its parts have a tendency to move with respect to one another. —Mario Salvadori, _Why Buildings Stand Up_, 1990

**Origin of _RESPECT_**

Middle English, from Latin _respectus,_ literally, act of looking back, from _respicere_ to look back, regard, from _re-_ + _specere_ to look — First Known Use: 14th century

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/37 "2011-10-30T14:44:15Z")

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Get your facts straight!

1. Everything you read is not true.
2. Don’t argue with dumb-asses (quote from my grandmother)
3. You can lead a horse to water…

It’s not about deception as much as it is about misinformation.

The question at hand was “What is the difference between alpha and beta Androstenol?”. Tisha went on to clearly explain alpha and beta molecules.  
Then another poster adds his 2 cents and comments that **alpha and beta Androstenol are enantiomers.**

This is a false statement. I looked up what enantiomers are. Then I looked at the molecular structure of the alpha and beta molecules. **They are not enantiomers** however no one corrected the poster.

Example number two of crappy reporting came about 2 days ago when a poster claimed that he got hits off of A314 24 hours after putting it on. Obviously this guy is what my grandmother would call a xxxxxx

I miss the old experts who would have put him in his place. Old timers like Catlord. Tactitus, Warren, Dancing Joker, JesseJester and even RADMAN. But me I follow rule #2 most of the time.😉

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/38 "2011-10-30T15:33:48Z")

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2 drops A314  
2 sprays [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)  
7.5 shots of shine  
60 mcgs P83  
2.5 mcgs TUTH

Must try this mix soon. Maybe this weekend

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/39 "2011-10-30T17:30:51Z")

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P93 for Caucasian chicks only

I found a little more proof to back up my theory that [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) **only** works on **Caucasian** girls

> [@CoolKat](#):
>
> 2.5 mcg p75 + 12.5 p93 + 2x IH
> 
> - This is SIMILAR to ammo + IS + IH combo. This mix gets attention and attraction from many WHITE girls, esp blondes. It was quicker hitting than my Chick Magnet Mix I. Comfort and bonding was there, along with attraction and respect. This is simple but very sexy, powerful mix.

And of course there is this post:

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830)?

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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/40 "2011-10-31T18:02:14Z")

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> [@Snoopyace](#):
>
> Seriously. If you have the means and the know how, try this simple composite. It is basically just Ammo with Beta-androstenol instead of Alpha-Androstenol and the addition of P83 but ohhhh…
> 
> Here is what I put together in a combination of neroli and grapefruit scents (6%)-
> 
> Androstenone 3 mcg  
> Androsterone 7.5 mcg  
> Beta-Androstenol- 10 mcg  
> P83 7.5 mcg
> 
> The results are remarkably similar to the SAM mix (Thanks again for the name K-Train) but I really think I like this one even better! Give it a go and see what you think of it.
> 
> I have seen a lot of interest from women (I had a woman I’d met for the first time 10 minutes prior give me her phone number.) I get a lot of looks (as in looks up and down like I’m a piece of meat- ladies, I know a lot of you don’t like that but I have to tell you, it does wonders for the self esteem). Try this. Once you begin talking to someone they will not want you to leave.
> 
> The Androstenone gives this a sexual drive but also seems to help people see the wearer as a bit more masculine and of higher importance.
> 
> The Androstenone helps with the VIP vibe. Giving the sense of an approachable alpha male and seems to help people feel more comfortable around the wearer.
> 
> Beta-androstenol gives people a feeling of being connected to the wearer. More than just the ‘truth serum’ effect. Makes people feel comfortable and less inhibited. Combined with…
> 
> P83 disinhibits people both verbally as well as physically. I LOVE the combination of P83 (when it is in stock) with Beta-androstenol. It is almost as if the P83, Beta-androstenol and Androsterone give the wearer a sort of mystical, fascinating aura about them that others find very irresistable. When combined with the Androstenone it pushes it more sexual.
> 
> Try it and see for yourselves. After one day wearing this, I know I like it. 🙂

Formula added to my To-Do list

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