# Paradox's paradoxes-The Ravings of an Alchemist **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [September 25, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527 "2011-09-25T17:24:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/41 "2011-11-01T20:19:47Z")
No name test mix results Mixed into a togo 3 sprays [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)@2.5 9 sprays IS @2.5 3 drops A-1 1 spray Beta [nol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) @ 12.5 1 spray [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/)@12.5 3 sprays Androsterone @2.5 3 sprays from the To-Go bottle and I’m off to see my hair stylist. Her exposure time was about an hour. Not sure what was going on here but she was extremely chatty today. On the other hand she did my hair in half the time she usually takes. The beta-nol was the lead driver here. I think the RONE was too heavy. I’m scrapping this formula for the following reasons: 1. No heavy draw 2. Too much RONE 3. Not sure what the P79 was doing here. P79 may need a higher dosage. 4. A-1 may only be effective only in the 60-75 mcg range 5. Needs more attraction but I don’t want to flood the formula with TUTH I’m going to try something else on my to do list ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/42 "2011-11-09T15:05:52Z")
MX297 + Anderosterone Yesterday I tested MX297 + Anderosterone: My thought was and still is that MX297 has a [female pheromone](https://phera.com/) in it. This is why no matter what a male pairs it with you get a non sexual response. I think that one of the ingredients in MX297 is TAL. My thought was to mix in some RONE of maybe cancel out the feminine aspect of the TAL. 2 sprays to MX297 2 sprays of RONE at 2.5 mcgs per spray I sprayed at 1pm and I was off. I had a little shopping to do. 20 mins into this mix I notice a little light fear/nervousness. I also notice men moving away from me. Women had little or no reaction. However, I did not strike up a conversation at this point. 2 hrs into this mix I go into a store to pick up some jeans. The sales girl takes me to the jean section and shows me a pair that would fit me. This is not a hit as I have been in this store before. The sales people run over to help you here. I try to get some conversation out of her but she gives me short answers. Nothing like the usual MX297 answers. After a few more efforts at conversation I go change. I try the conversation again. No go. As I check out and get ready to leave I look back at her and she waves bye. I really like the comfort that MX297 brings to women. I also like the great communication that I have with women while wearing MX297. Unfortunately that’s as far as it will go with this mix. I would love to find a way to man this mix up. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/43 "2011-11-09T18:53:48Z")
Seems like [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) projects a positive social presence. More of a comforting MX with the ladies. If that is your end game, this MX is perfect. To take it up from there… well, I think that another MX would need to be tried. It doesn’t look like rone will do it. How about none? I was curious about the guys in your post, seemed to not show you respect. The other variable in the equation is your own mone production. Some guys have posted this MX as a ‘perfect for clubbing’ spray… > [@MX297 - Makes You The Man](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-makes-you-the-man/34320): > > I’ve been using [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) here and there, and it sure is a winner. Here are some different hits that i can recount (2 sprays)- One eerie thing about it is that on many different occasions, guys would call me “The Man”. They were like “You’re The Man” after i said something. Kinda gives you take on a leader of men vibe, but without the intimidation factor of say A314. The ladies also seem to like it just as well. I had one girl at a bar come upto me and start hitting on me and complimenting the cr… If it is some TAL in MX297, then, it would come across in a similar fashion, to your experience in a guy. Beta-ish when a guy wears it. You got me thinking about this, as when my wife used MX297, she gets a boost in confidence, spring in her step kind of vibe. I’ve gotta order her some more! 🙂 Female reaction to this MX is a stronger feminine presence. Here’s a Jas quote on TAL and I was digging into the MX297 and TAL and found this post by the man himself. **“The TAL would make women aggressive and direct (chime in here, Taoist Biker and others!) and also reduce LMR.”** -\*\*\* Jas \*\*\* From this post: [Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832) **Steve O on MX297 and TAL:** > [@The Path of the Righteous Man](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-path-of-the-righteous-man/38445/9): > > An interesting weekend that resulted in some questions. On Friday I was wearing my standard go out to the bar mix. First I wash head to toe using Dial Magnetic (The red stuff) with A1. After I dry off I use Johnson and Johnson Baby Powder with Vitamin E and Aloe to ensure I am baby fresh for any activities that might occur. TIP: I can relay with absolute certainty that if you prepare for anything sexual that might occur you have an immediate advantage over any guy that doesn’t. First it sets … ---
**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/44 "2011-11-09T19:57:38Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > Yesterday I tested MX297 + Anderosterone: > > My thought was and still is that MX297 has a female pheromone in it. This is why no matter what a male pairs it with you get a non sexual response. > > I think that one of the ingredients in MX297 is TAL. > > My thought was to mix in some RONE of maybe cancel out the feminine aspect of the TAL. > > 2 sprays to MX297 > 2 sprays of RONE at 2.5 mcgs per spray > > I sprayed at 1pm and I was off. I had a little shopping to do. 20 mins into this mix I notice a little light fear/nervousness. I also notice men moving away from me. > > Women had little or no reaction. However, I did not strike up a conversation at this point. > > 2 hrs into this mix I go into a store to pick up some jeans. The sales girl takes me to the jean section and shows me a pair that would fit me. This is not a hit as I have been in this store before. The sales people run over to help you here. > > I try to get some conversation out of her but she gives me short answers. Nothing like the usual MX297 answers. After a few more efforts at conversation I go change. I try the conversation again. No go. > > As I check out and get ready to leave I look back at her and she waves bye. > > I really like the comfort that MX297 brings to women. I also like the great communication that I have with women while wearing MX297. Unfortunately that’s as far as it will go with this mix. > > I would love to find a way to man this mix up. Thomaslavoi seems to agree with you, do you think his prescription of some ammo would clear it up? I wonder if its a matter of congruence- If Mx297 is a beta-inducer, I wonder what an overwhelming alpha presence would do- if it would just cause confusion or ‘prove’ oneself, if I make sense. ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/45 "2011-11-09T22:43:00Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Seems like MX297 projects a positive social presence. More of a comforting MX with the ladies. If that is your end game, this MX is perfect. To take it up from there… well, I think that another MX would need to be tried. **Yes I’ve used [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) to get my foot in the door. I like this mix because it is consistent and very, very social. It’s just great to use around women. You just won’t get laid with this on.** > [@1Alpha](#): > > It doesn’t look like rone will do it. **Nope but my next try may be with P74** > [@1Alpha](#): > > How about none? **Well…I did wear MX297 with IJ once. I still have to test that one again. I have a feeling that the feminine signature just overrides whatever is added to it.** > [@1Alpha](#): > > I was curious about the guys in your post, seemed to not show you respect. **This may have been due to a confusing or overbearing alpha signature from the addition of the RONE.** > [@1Alpha](#): > > The other variable in the equation is your own mone production. Some guys have posted this MX as a ‘perfect for clubbing’ spray… > [MX297 - Makes You The Man](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-makes-you-the-man/34320) **I came here from a PUA environment so not to brag but I am well schooled in female “go” signals as opposed to regular conversation. Not to insult anyone but just because a woman talks to you that does not mean she wants to sleep with you…lol. Anyway it was explained to me that many of the men here are not PUA’s. In fact many are not that experienced in the art so when they get a hair flip or a little conversation then ding, ding ding they perceive a BIG HIT.** > [@1Alpha](#): > > If it is some TAL in MX297, then, it would come across in a similar fashion, to your experience in a guy. Beta-ish when a guy wears it. **It really goes beyond Beta-ish all the way into the realm of womanhood. I think women perceive the wearer as a big sister or a BFF** > [@1Alpha](#): > > You got me thinking about this, as when my wife used MX297, she gets a boost in confidence, spring in her step kind of vibe. I’ve gotta order her some more! 🙂 Female reaction to this MX is a stronger feminine presence. **TAL has been described as the female A314** > [@1Alpha](#): > > Here’s a Jas quote on TAL and I was digging into the MX297 and TAL and found this post by the man himself. > **“The TAL would make women aggressive and direct (chime in here, Taoist Biker and others!) and also reduce LMR.”** - _ **Jas** _ > From this post: [Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832) \*\* > [@Reclipse](#): > > TAL or TAH doesn’t make you appear ‘softer’ and more approachable or beta compared to alpha… nor does it make you come across as gay. It will create a hell of a lot of confusion in people though because it IS a feminine signature and as a male I just don’t think it’s possible to be totally congruent with that lol. \*\* > [@1Alpha](#): > > **Steve O on MX297 and TAL:** > [The Path of the Righteous Man - #53 by SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-path-of-the-righteous-man/38445/53) > [@Steve](#): > > Hmmm here’s an interesting tidbit of discovery. A pattern has emerged that women tend to sit next to you and hover around you. Maybe its because they feel so safe next to a guy who wouldn’t think if hitting on her. after all the super gay vibe you’re putting off with MX297 says it all about you. ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/46 "2011-11-09T22:52:44Z")
> [@delocc](#): > > Thomaslavoi seems to agree with you, do you think his prescription of some ammo would clear it up? I wonder if its a matter of congruence- If Mx297 is a beta-inducer, I wonder what an overwhelming alpha presence would do- if it would just cause confusion or ‘prove’ oneself, if I make sense. Cool I’m glad I’m not alone [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) gives you a real chick vibe…like the head cheerleader or big sister. I mean it really gives you an alpha female vibe. It’s very social. It makes women comfortable…It has it’s uses and I hope it never goes away. I just wish that there was a more masculine version of this Mix. Probably the closest thing to it is AMMO. I don’t think that AMMO will help man this mix up. It’s been tried before. Maybe a Mega dose (15-25 mcgs) of ANONE or P74 ---
**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/47 "2011-11-10T01:37:54Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > 1. Everything you read is not true. > 2. Don’t argue with dumb-asses (quote from my grandmother) > 3. You can lead a horse to water… > > It’s not about deception as much as it is about misinformation. > > The question at hand was “What is the difference between alpha and beta Androstenol?”. Tisha went on to clearly explain alpha and beta molecules. > Then another poster adds his 2 cents and comments that **alpha and beta Androstenol are enantiomers.** > > This is a false statement. I looked up what enantiomers are. Then I looked at the molecular structure of the alpha and beta molecules. **They are not enantiomers** however no one corrected the poster. > > **Example number two of crappy reporting came about 2 days ago when a poster claimed that he got hits off of A314 24 hours after putting it on. Obviously this guy is what my grandmother would call a xxxxxx** > > I miss the old experts who would have put him in his place. Old timers like Catlord. Tactitus, Warren, Dancing Joker, JesseJester and even RADMAN. But me I follow rule #2 most of the time.😉 Paradox I hope to god you are feeling well. As I remember correctly, I’m the one who claimed that it a314 still worked for me 24 hours later. Prove me wrong? Instead of calling it bull, you have no facts to stand on, yet you go on your accusations. However, you can believe what you want to believe to help you sleep at night. Next time, say it to my face instead of hiding it in your journal. And about crappy reporting, you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect that. God bless Joe ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/48 "2011-11-10T09:40:39Z")
> [@Joe10](#): > > Paradox > > I hope to god you are feeling well. As I remember correctly, I’m the one who claimed that it a314 still worked for me 24 hours later. Prove me wrong? Instead of calling it bull, you have no facts to stand on, yet you go on your accusations. However, you can believe what you want to believe to help you sleep at night. Next time, say it to my face instead of hiding it in your journal. And about crappy reporting, you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect that. > > God bless > > Joe Thanks for your comments. I am well. About the time factor of A314 mobocaster says: > [@A314 Alcohol vs. Oil](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alcohol-vs-oil/49962/15): > > Around 4-6 hrs per application. > > Oil is typically 8-10hrs but you can eek it out to a full 12 hrs if you apply a little lotion to your app points and give it a few mins to soak-in first. Slows skin absorbtion/breakdown nicely. The scent is also detectable far longer. 🙂 Steve then replies: > [@Steve](#): > > True dat, but it also depends on environment. Hot, humid is going to last less than dry cool. Overall though mobocaster has it spot on 🙂 However if you feel you are getting effects 3 times the normal length of time with pheromones then good for you. ---
**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/49 "2011-11-10T20:40:42Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > Thanks for your comments. I am well. About the time factor of A314 mobocaster says: > > Quote: Originally Posted by **mobocaster** [view post](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alcohol-vs-oil/49962/15) > \*Around 4-6 hrs per application. > > Oil is typically 8-10hrs but you can eek it out to a full 12 hrs if you apply a little lotion to your app points and give it a few mins to soak-in first. Slows skin absorbtion/breakdown nicely. The scent is also detectable far longer. 🙂\* > > Steve then replies: > > Quote: > Originally Posted by **Steve** [view post](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-alcohol-vs-oil/49962/16) > _True dat, but it also depends on environment. Hot, humid is going to last less than dry cool. Overall though mobocaster has it spot on 🙂_ > > However if you feel you are getting effects 3 times the normal length of time with pheromones then good for you. Thank you for providing proof, it is good to have facts to stand on. However, these are not facts but people’s opinions. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt and use those same 2 people you have been using. They mentioned that dry cool weather, it can extend the duration to more than 10 hour+. First of all, for 1 year, I find that pheromones on me, less = more. What I mean by that is everytime I go over 1 spray of anything, it is an overdose and honestly, sometimes even one spray is an overdose. Now coming in terms with A314, one drop for me I see massive intimidation reactions. It is in oil form and it lasts quite easily 8 to 10 hours+. Now like steve said, it depends on the weather, and to be honest, the only time I have applied it were cold weathers, or very very hot. Very hot weather is when I applied more than one drop. Here is a quote from A314’s store page > [@](#): > > A314 comes in a light oil base with a minor blend of real essential oils, which allows it to last all day. The 10ml bottle lasts up to a half year at the recommended 2 drops per day, when you take two days off per week. . I work out every morning and do other activities before applying pheromones. Maybe that what causes the over dosages. I’m not sure because the days I applied pheromones without working out in the morning were very limited. I believe that over dosage of one product extends its duration. I can’t go below one drop of A314,it being oil form and lasts all day anyways, so I just settle in with 1 drop until the positive effects kick in, which sometimes, it really does take at least 12 hours plus. When you see positive effects that you don’t see before without wearing pheromones and are well consistant, while it is well passed the 12 hour mark, what credit can you give this to? I have no other motif than sharing my experience to help with the development of their products. Take care and God bless Joe ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/50 "2011-11-11T09:42:35Z")
> [@Joe10](#): > > Thank you for providing proof, it is good to have facts to stand on. However, these are not facts but people’s opinions. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt and use those same 2 people you have been using. They mentioned that dry cool weather, it can extend the duration to more than 10 hour+. > > First of all, for 1 year, I find that pheromones on me, less = more. What I mean by that is everytime I go over 1 spray of anything, it is an overdose and honestly, sometimes even one spray is an overdose. > > Now coming in terms with A314, one drop for me I see massive intimidation reactions. It is in oil form and it lasts quite easily 8 to 10 hours+. Now like steve said, it depends on the weather, and to be honest, the only time I have applied it were cold weathers, or very very hot. Very hot weather is when I applied more than one drop. > > Here is a quote from A314’s store page > . > > I work out every morning and do other activities before applying pheromones. Maybe that what causes the over dosages. I’m not sure because the days I applied pheromones without working out in the morning were very limited. I believe that over dosage of one product extends its duration. I can’t go below one drop of A314,it being oil form and lasts all day anyways, so I just settle in with 1 drop until the positive effects kick in, which sometimes, it really does take at least 12 hours plus. When you see positive effects that you don’t see before without wearing pheromones and are well consistant, while it is well passed the 12 hour mark, what credit can you give this to? > > I have no other motif than sharing my experience to help with the development of their products. > > Take care and God bless > > Joe Maybe you are different from everyone else. I’m glad pheromones last 12-24 hours for you. Take care ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 2:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/51 "2011-11-16T14:25:22Z")
Cool little combo I’ve been testing this combo with some success 4 sprays IO 1 spray AMMO My sweet spot for AMMO is 3 sprays but I didn’t want to load up on the -NONE. This is a nice little combo. ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/52 "2011-11-17T14:45:23Z")
Angry Vendors Angry Vendors I recently got a sample of a Vendors product that will debut in December of this year. This is a product from a very big pheromone vendor. He gave out about 23 samples of his product. I was one of the first to submit a detailed report on the product. I am well known for factual and thorough product testing. He sent a 10ml sample and I tested this product well. At 1-5 sprays, different settings…ect Well, my report was negative. We had a short argument in my review thread and that was that. I sent the vendor a PM asking for another sample hoping to improve his product by mixing it with ANONE, RONE and other PMONES. I even offered to privately PM him my results. The Vendor did not answer my PM. Only 7 people who received his product samples reported on the product and all of the reviews were similar to mine. I also reviewed a mix that I won’t name and now the owner of that mix will not talk to me… **If I review your product and my review doesn’t fit your expectations then don’t take it personally. Just go and improve the product!** ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/53 "2011-11-18T14:41:32Z")
A-1 megadose test #2 A-1 megadose test #2 There’s been some talk on the forum about A-1 so I decided to do a megadose test this morning. 7 drops of A-1 (1 each wrist, 2 on neck, 1 back of neck, 1 behind each ear) I apply the drops with 1 spray of cologne over each app point. The plan was to apply the drops a little early so if I had an adverse effect I could wash it off before I leave the house. I packed a washcloth with soap and alcohol in a zip-lock bag (just in case) I got on the bus and sat 1 seat away from this girl. I got no reaction from her throughout the bus ride. The 3 guys sitting across all pulled out their cell phones at almost the same time to make calls. I’m not sure if this was a result of my cloud or what. It may have been a matter of “monkey see, monkey do.” I sat next the girl and saw no IOI’s from her at all. I felt like I may have been ghosting. This is my second test at @196mcg’s (@28mcg’s x 7). I do have some observations. 1. 28-50 mcg’s-mild effects on women. mild depression. 2. 50-75 mcg’s-nice effects on women. this is my sweet spot for A-1. mild to medium depression. 3. 196 mcg’s-no noticeable effects on women. self effects=good feeling. I may have bypassed the danger zone by going from 3 drops right to 7 drops. I am also curious now about microdosing with A-1. ---
**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/54 "2011-11-18T15:07:46Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > 1. 28-50 mcg’s-mild effects on women. mild depression. > 2. 50-75 mcg’s-nice effects on women. this is my sweet spot for A-1. mild to medium depression. > 3. 196 mcg’s-no noticeable effects on women. self effects=good feeling. > > I may have bypassed the danger zone by going from 3 drops right to 7 drops. I am also curious now about microdosing with A-1. Woowww, good feelings at 196? I’ll test a megadose soon then too. ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/55 "2011-11-18T15:27:02Z")
> [@delocc](#): > > Woowww, good feelings at 196? I’ll test a megadose soon then too. Yeah, I’m surprised too! However it may be an OD. I’m sure I was wearing thousands of times the normal male production of Androstadienone. I wonder now about 4-7 drops and about 1-5 mcg dosing. Gotta put those dosages on the to do list. ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/56 "2011-12-01T13:06:31Z")
Frustration In psychology, **frustration** is a common [emotional](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional) response to opposition. Related to [anger](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anger) and [disappointment](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappointment), it arises from the perceived resistance to the fulfillment of individual [will](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_%28philosophy%29). The greater the obstruction, and the greater the will, the more the frustration is likely to be. Causes of frustration may be internal or external. (Wiki) I have been experimenting with various combinations of the consumer line only to have many “fails”. I have set very, very high standards for what I consider a success. 1. The woman must approach or in the very least close the distance 2. The woman must feel comfortable. 3. The woman must talk (DIHL is nice but communication is necessary) 4. The woman must be sexually attracted 5. The woman must want to act on the attraction (LMR and defense must be eliminated. 6. The formula should affect memory and/or cause “the fallout effect” 7. This must (should) work for all age groups 18-50 Well, that’s a tall order. I think I can do it but I am resigned to that fact that I have no help. The reports that come in on products are spotty, missing information and inaccurate. Not everyone’s report, just the majority of reports. The pioneer reporters such as Warren, NBully, Wildflower, Dancing Joker and RADMAN have disappeared. R.I.P Tactius. To date no one has done this. The only product on the market that comes close is A314. The problem with that is that A314 has already been tested with so many consumer products. Maybe A314 needs to be tested with some of the rarely used putatives. ---
**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/57 "2011-12-01T20:15:56Z")
It seems like the 100+ line of putatives lack much of the testing, beyond a few star products. I’m working my way up slowly, I’d love it if AD released a premixed multipack of 100+'s. ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/58 "2011-12-02T00:53:11Z")
> [@delocc](#): > > It seems like the 100+ line of putatives lack much of the testing, beyond a few star products. I’m working my way up slowly, I’d love it if AD released a premixed multipack of 100+'s. Well, If you really want to know here is a list of putatives that I feel need testing or retesting: P76, P77, P80, P82, P90, P97, P99, P100, P101, P104, P106, P109, P110, P111, P112, P115, P119, P123, P124, P125, P126 Maybe instead of dropping IO as a free gift, Androtics should drop one of these in the fedex envelope. Alot of testing right? Could be the new flavor of the month is somewhere in here. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/59 "2011-12-02T22:53:25Z")
I’d love some P123 testing for sure! One of my must have putatives. Yup, I’d think that a P in a Togo with a similar ‘surprise freebie’ letter as the new MX series with the SDT asking for feedback could get some much needed testing. . ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/60 "2011-12-04T18:47:43Z")
Someone who gets it > [@Never EVER doubt Ammo or TUTH!!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/never-ever-doubt-ammo-or-tuth/40322/1): > > By using the combination below, I thought I would get similar results to Ammo, and in a way, it sort of got the job mostly done with my PUA tactics floating in the back ground. > 1x Instant gentleman > 1x ISHINE/m (2x strength) > 2x A314 > 2x TUTH (2x strength) > 2x CTTM (mix 2) > But you will find that with either PUA tactics, or ‘mones on their own, would be great, and get you laid …eventually. > But having both of these tools working together side-by-side, is without doubt, the way to go, and I get instant results in a bar, and similar results in malls and shopping centres. > (_only slightly less effective, in places that are more exposed to the public and litten-up like shopping centres and salons._) > Keeping in mind, that I met; seduced; and began to screw this girl in 50-60 minutes! Nice to see a working formula here. Sharpy was using PUA techniques with the pheromones. Sooooo…was it him or the formula or both? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527.md?page=4)