# Paradox's paradoxes-The Ravings of an Alchemist

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**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [September 25, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527 "2011-09-25T17:24:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/81 "2012-07-18T14:51:30Z")

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> [@still18](#):
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> How quickly would you like to break down these social constraints? There are certain molecules that could achieve this, it only takes a lot of experimenting to find out the right combination.

Isn’t this what many of us are looking for? That illusive “Love potion #9”…

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/82 "2013-08-10T08:39:30Z")

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Do I know you?

It’s been a while since I posted a report. I’ve been out of work for the longest.

I have some pheromones left but have not had the social occasion to use them due to money issues.

I did however make a skin mix for the hell of it:

2 sprays of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/)  
2 sprays of Voracious  
2 sprays of Alfa Maschio

I got some strange looks at the grocery store. But I couldn’t figure out what was going on. A few days later I tried one spray of each. Nothing happened.

I had an appointment in a few days so I made a mix (3 sprays of each) in a 5ml spray bottle and let it sit for a few days.

So…off to my appointment. I applied 5 sprays and I immediately felt dizzy. Pheromone overdose. As the mones settle in I feel buzzed.

Standing at the elevator an older lady says to me “You look like my best friend in Florida.” I replied “That’s a good thing.” There was a girl close enough to my cloud but she only politely smiled at me.

I go upstairs and sat in the waiting room. There was a couple sitting next to me. The man asked me “Do you have a son named Jeff?” to which I replied “No.”

This mix gives off a familiarity vibe. Maybe it makes me similar to people who the target trusts. There is some sort of trust vibe. I was in contact or close to several women but nothing. No squirming, preening, smiling…but they all had a curious look like they were trying to remember something?.

It must be a Beta Nol heavy mix. Women though didn’t jump on me even with the heavy None.

As soon as I got home I fell asleep. I took an afternoon nap. The mones knocked me out.

Overall, this was an interesting little mix. Just goes to show what you can do with scraps (“Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!” --Obidiah Stane, Iron Man (2008))

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/83 "2013-10-28T18:39:32Z")

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Just brought some Alpha-Androstenol. I will be wearing it and reporting on it soon. Looking forward seeing what it does at the higher doses.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/84 "2013-11-01T05:39:32Z")

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Alpha-Androstenol

Alpha-Androstenol is old in the world of pheromones. It is probably the most widely used pheromone of all time.

I tried to do some research on Alpha-Androstenol but found bits and pieces of what it does and dosages.

Supposedly, Alpha-Androstenol promotes calmness, comfort and talkativeness. It is alleged to be a status reducer among other men and allegedly causes headaches with doses over 50 mcg’s. I’ll be testing 1-6+ sprays (if I can handle it).

I ordered it at 25 mcg’s per spray.

Today, I am testing one spray. No real results so far. I may apply 2 sprays later or wait until tomorrow.

Update: It has been about 2 1/2 hours since I applied the one spray. I am easily irritated but women are more friendly. I forgot that Nol converts to -none on the skin. I may have to go wash this off but I’ll try to bear with it.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 10:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/85 "2013-11-03T10:21:56Z")

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P130 Don’t Worry, Be Happy

**“Don’t Worry, Be Happy”**

Here’s a little song I wrote  
You might want to sing it note for note  
Don’t worry, be happy  
In every life we have some trouble  
But when you worry you make it double  
Don’t worry, be happy  
Don’t worry, be happy now

Don’t worry, be happy, Don’t worry, be happy  
Don’t worry, be happy, Don’t worry, be happy

Ain’t got no place to lay your head  
Somebody came and took your bed  
Don’t worry, be happy  
The landlord say your rent is late  
He may have to litigate  
Don’t worry, be happy  
Don’t worry, be happy

Don’t worry, be happy, Don’t worry, be happy  
Don’t worry, be happy, Don’t worry, be happy

Yes, this is [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/). I got a P130 tester when I ordered my Alpha Andostenol. I reported on this **Don’t Worry molecule** some time ago.

I wonder if it fits into a sexual mix somewhere.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2013, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/86 "2013-11-04T07:11:41Z")

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Androstenol-conversion-to-Androstenone

Found a very old link to a explanation of how Androstenol converts to enone on the skin:

`http://love-scent.com/forum/showthread.php/2801-Androstenol-conversion-to-Androstenone`

Yesterday I used 3 sprays of Alpha Androstenol in the laundromat. I did not get any unusual chatter from anyone. In fact it was a normal day.

I did have a mild headache. I dont know if it was me or the A-nol.

I have a feeling that this molecule does not work well alone. It probably has to be combined with another molecule to activate it…

It converts to enone after about 2 1/2 hours.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/87 "2013-11-04T19:49:44Z")

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> [@paradox1](#):
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> Don’t Worry

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/a/ae58fef37d1ce397d99bb0fcc6a511bf35fcf582.jpeg "Oliver and Company - Why Should I Worry? (Blu-ray 1080p HD)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTFVhlpsuiA)

I heard from somewhere that alpha nols can take up to 5 hours to transfer to enone, though I haven’t a clue how valid the statement was lol.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/88 "2013-12-08T22:12:04Z")

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P83

I’m now convinced that I should not wear p83 around African American women. It makes them seek another man. I’ve heard [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) called the girlfriend stealer. Now, I’m convinced of that.

It was sort of an epiphany. Every time I had used P83 around African American women it was a disaster.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/89 "2014-01-21T15:44:25Z")

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She smiled at me

“She twirled her hair at me”.

Just because a girl twirls her hair while you are wearing pheromones doesn’t mean you got a hit.

Perhaps the girl on the bus was thinking and she subconsciously twirls her hair while doing so. Some girls will say that they play with their hair because they are a little nervous or it’s a habit.

For many women hair twirling is just a habit. For example, some people have the habit of tapping their feet as they wait in line or shaking one of their legs when they are seated. Sometimes people twirl their hair in response to stress or anxiety; in other cases, hair twirling may be a symptom of a compulsive disorder. Often though, habits such as hair twirling are unconscious, which means the person may not even realize she’s twirling her hair. In many cases, hair twirling is a habit that begins in childhood. Many people grow out of it, but some continue the behavior well into adulthood.

Some women twirl their hair because it helps them to feel more relaxed. It’s essentially a pacifying habit that is similar to sucking one’s thumb or nail biting. It may help to produce a calm feeling. For example, some people may use hair twirling as a self-soothing measure during times of stress or nervousness. In fact, they may engage in this act without even noticing that they are feeling stressed. Others, however, may seem to twirl their hair just about all the time.

Basically you should consider a hit to be “an unusual action or series of actions.”

Try to remember that all girls are different so you’ll need to view her body language signals as a whole. Some women love attention so they preen all of the time.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/90 "2014-01-23T14:29:00Z")

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African American women hate P83

> [@paradox1](#):
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> I’m now convinced that I should not wear p83 around African American women. It makes them seek another man. I’ve heard P83 called the girlfriend stealer. Now, I’m convinced of that.
> 
> It was sort of an epiphany. Every time I had used P83 around African American women it was a disaster.

The P83 phenomenon

There was always something strange about P83. It has been reported here as a disinhibitor.

I used it at a dinner party. I was wearing some Turn Up The Heat and was putting the moves on this lovely African American woman. She seemed to be going for it hook, line and sinker. I decided to add some P83 and then close the deal. Well, after I put on the P83 another guy that she knew came over to talk to her and she went with him to take some pictures. Soon after, they went outside of the club. She just left me there. I’ve never had this happen to me so I chalked it up to bad luck. However, I put the P83 away for a few months.

I decided to try the P83 again. I was wearing AMMO at a bar. It was just me and another guy. I was talking to the African American barmaid. She was talking to me and ignoring him. I was making her laugh. I decided to put on the P83 and go for the close. I came out of the bathroom and sat down. She went to refill the other guys drink and never came back to me. At that point I decided that P83 was overhyped crap. I sold my P83 on the trading post and was happily done with it.

I recently ordered A314. In my order was a 5ml of P83 so I decided to give it another go (this is now 2 years after the above 2 incidents). I was wearing 3 drops of A314 + 1 dab of New Pheromone Additive + 2 sprays of P83. I go in to the bar. There was one other guy at the bar. The barmaid was an African American woman who is usually very friendly with me. She just served me my drink took my money and took a $2 tip for herself (which she never does). She never takes a tip like that. She usually waits for me to leave it. I usually tip her $2 per drink. She had been talking to the other guy at the bar and she went right back to talk to him. Usually even if it is busy she will stop and chat with me. Today she didn’t even look my way. I finished my drink and she didn’t come over like she usually does and immediately get me another drink.

African American women are repulsed by P83. Really, to be more accurate it makes them seek out another man.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/91 "2014-01-24T11:53:42Z")

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> [@paradox1](#):
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> Yes, this is P130. I got a P130 tester when I ordered my Alpha Andostenol. I reported on this **Don’t Worry molecule** some time ago.

I’ve been calling it the “I Don’t Give A Shit” molecule. But your “Don’t Worry” title is a little more friendly! 🙂

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/92 "2014-01-24T19:53:20Z")

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> [@Miss\_Dragon](#):
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> I’ve been calling it the “I Don’t Give A Shit” molecule. But your “Don’t Worry” title is a little more friendly! 🙂

Yes Miss Dragon, I reviewed [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) about 3 years ago. It’s a really nice putative for taking the edge off.

I never combined it with anything because at the time it was rare. It was not sold by Androtics. It was just given to the faithful few.

Here’s my review from 3 years ago: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-test-p130/42352](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-test-p130/42352)

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/93 "2014-02-13T22:27:49Z")

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After a long wait I finally got m hands on some P96 to test. My order came today and inside was a sample of P95…

I could not find much on P95. Apparently the vets were not impressed with it. I applied 1 spray at 5mcg’s. I feel irritated and a little spaced out. If I had to take a quick guess at what it is I would say it was ANONE or Beta Rone. I’ll get back to it.

Here is a hint from Jasmine which may narrow it down to one of the Golden 13:

> [@P95 -- any results?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p95-any-results/23655/1):
>
> Hey guys,
> 
> I just found out today what P95 is. (they even keep me blind to 'em!)
> 
> It’s been actually a _very_, almost ludicrously high quality synthesis of a crowd favorite here.
> 
> Sometimes synthesis route, purity, quantity of impurities, and what type of impurities there are, all matter. These often overlooked variables can often make molecules work very differently, so I’m wondering what sort of results you guys have been seeing?

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/94 "2014-02-14T18:53:09Z")

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What is P96?

I’ve been playing with my new toy P96. I wore it last night at 25mcg’s solo last night just to get a feel of it. I get a good uplifting feel from it. The vibe/feeling I get from it is similar to [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/). Its sort of a carefree feeling. It’s a no anxiety feeling but not worry free.

Today I wore it with A314. I had on 3 drops of A314 with 25 mcg’s of P96. It seemed to smooth out the A314. I asked someone from another dept to do something for me and she seemed over enthuastic. It was like she was tripping over herself to help me.

Epithany!: All or most of the P90’s are probably refined products.

I know that P93 is refined P88 and P95 is a refined product. So…P96 must be a refined molecule. Forgive me if this has already been revealed.

I have had P96 on for a few hours and I am worn out. I wonder if P96 is TAA refined…No, it can’t be because John S says:

> [@John\_Sebastian](#):
>
> There’s only a finite amount of this compound on earth, and it takes about 3 years to produce a batch. Kilos of this compound cost more than 1.8M.

Could it be that P96 is Ambergris? “Ambergris is relatively nonreactive to acid. White crystals of a substance called ambrein can be separated from ambergris by heating raw ambergris in alcohol, then allowing the resulting solution to cool. Breakdown of the relatively scentless ambrein through oxidation results in the formation of ambrox and ambrinol, which are the main odour components of ambergris.” ([Ambergris - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambergris) ([Ambergris - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambergris))).

John Sebastian’s statement that there is only a finite amount of this compound refers to everything on earth. I think that he means that it is a rare compound. The creation and cultivation of Ambergris is a long process. Wiki says “It takes years for ambergris to form.” and Ambergris fits the high cost category.

I believe that P96 is Ambrinol.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/95 "2014-02-14T20:02:39Z")

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> [@paradox1](#):
>
> I’ve been playing with my new toy P96. I wore it last night at 25mcg’s solo last night just to get a feel of it. I get a good uplifting feel from it. The vibe/feeling I get from it is similar to P130. Its sort of a carefree feeling. It’s a no anxiety feeling but not worry free.
> 
> Today I wore it with A314. I had on 3 drops of A314 with 25 mcg’s of P96. It seemed to smooth out the A314. I asked someone from another dept to do something for me and she seemed over enthuastic. It was like she was tripping over herself to help me.
> 
> Epithany!: All or most of the P90’s are probably refined products.
> 
> I know that P93 is refined P86 and P95 is a refined product. So…P96 must be a refined molecule. Forgive me if this has already been revealed.
> 
> I have had P96 on for a few hours and I am worn out. I wonder if P96 is TAA refined…No, it can’t be because John S says:
> 
> Could it be that P96 is Ambergris? “Ambergris is relatively nonreactive to acid. White crystals of a substance called ambrein can be separated from ambergris by heating raw ambergris in alcohol, then allowing the resulting solution to cool. Breakdown of the relatively scentless ambrein through oxidation results in the formation of ambrox and ambrinol, which are the main odour components of ambergris.” ([Ambergris - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambergris) ([Ambergris - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambergris))).
> 
> John Sebastian’s statement the there is only a finite amount of this compount refers to everything on earth. I think that he means that it is a rare compound. The creation and cultivation of Ambergris is a long process. Wiki says “It takes years for ambergris to form.” and Ambergris fits the high cost catagory.
> 
> P96 is Ambrinol.

p93 refined p86? Christ, they are so unbelievably different I find that hard to believe. Not that I’m doubting you. Refining, then, must really alter the effects of any given molecule!

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/paradoxs-paradoxes-the-ravings-of-an-alchemist/52527/96 "2014-02-14T20:21:43Z")

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> [@WildFlower](#):
>
> p93 refined p86? Christ, they are so unbelievably different I find that hard to believe. Not that I’m doubting you. Refining, then, must really alter the effects of any given molecule!

I changed it. I was working off of memory, its actually P88 not P86. See below

> [@Rough synthesis vs. "perfect" - P88 vs. P93](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rough-synthesis-vs-perfect-p88-vs-p93/40741/1):
>
> P88 vs. P93 - Rough synthesis vs. “perfect” (or what chemists call “standard” synthesis)
> 
> I think we’ve blind tested the two long enough to reveal this.
> 
> While the bulk of the chemicals in our P line are absolutely unique structures, sometimes we do have two different synthesis paths of what _should_ technically be “the same” molecule.
> 
> In this case, P93 and P88 have a very unique relationship. P93 is the absolute laboratory standard, meticulously synthesized in small batches with TLC at every synthesis step, and then further purified. P88 is more of a commercial style luck-of-the-draw (hard or impossible to repeat) rapid style synthesis.
> 
> The numbers may seem a bit backward (you might think the more pure version would appear before the less), but P93/P88 was a structure we wanted to try for a long time. It was a pure oddball of timing that the more pure version became available soon after the less pure.
> 
> What you can clearly see is that the two different synthesis processes lead to two different results. P88 displays some effects P88 that P93 doesn’t (and vice versa) and probably are to at least one of two reasons:
> 
> **First** , the “actives” in the impurities, byproducts and intermediates are found in a rough synthesis, are “purified out of” a highly purified, standard version.
> 
> Useful actives in “impurities” have been observed in areas other than pheromone chemicals. For example, studies have found some chemicals used in insect sprays aren’t as active as the impurities. In fact, the impurities were more active and more useful in many ways than the “supposed” active. That is to say, one of the more useful actives in that industry was “hidden” like a stow-away in the impurities generated by a commercial process that created one of the popular insect related chemicals. I can’t remember the exact figure, but I believe it took decades to notice and figure out.
> 
> **Second** , some effects might be attributed to the larger amount of desired active in P93 vs. P88, as well as less unknown impurities that could theoretically counteract some of the primary actives effect.
> 
> This again, is seen in other areas. For example, “dirty” “vitamin C” made in some of the worse Chinese labs actually contains impurities that have much the opposite effect of clean synthesis of vitamin C. That’s why a few of the more cognizant nutrient makers like [life-enhancement.com](http://life-enhancement.com) and [lef.org](http://lef.org) use highly pure vitamin C from one of the most competent vitamin synthesis labs, Hoffman-LaRoche. [Hoffmann?La Roche - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoffmann?%E2%82%AC%E2%80%9CLa_Roche)
> 
> It’s even present in the perfume industry. Sometimes “the same” chemical with _reportedly_ similar levels of impurities is available from Givaudan, IFF and Symrise, yet they all SMELL different. All versions may have the same core structure, but details matter. Different processes make for different results.
> 
> The active:impurity ratios may explain why, as one example, some of Steve’s mixes that that use P93 contain so little. He and many others see markedly different effects at ultra low quantities of P93 (3mcg) vs. what most of us would consider “normal” (10mcg +) or high (50mcg +).
> 
> I don’t think most information about chemicals impurities and how they affect outcomes ever reaches the public. Many industries don’t even stop to think about them at all, although they are discussed to a degree in the pharmaceutical realm where they use concepts such as API.
> 
> Sometimes these concepts and the realities they describe seem to change usefulness of certain pheromone compounds as much as they change the effectiveness of vitamin formulas, OTC and prescription drugs, to colorants used in pants (which BASF experienced problems with).
> 
> After years of observing the differences in my own industry, I’d say it matters more where the pheromonal relationship is “fragile”, as it is with many of the more social compounds.
> 
> While you can say that higher purity is always necessary for research, where repeatability is king, I don’t think you can say that about truly commercial style synthesis. Where the effects of the molecule are _supposed_ to be rough, for example, a slightly dirtier (but not too dirty like a kitchen sink synthesis) synthesis can sometimes be viewed as positive for some applications.
> 
> Old internal split tests we did with highly pure vs. “commercial batch” style androstenone, for example, we sometimes preferred the less pure anone to help deliver what people viewed as “the anone effect”.
> 
> Not so w/ something like anol, where higher purity often meant more of a valuable result. Impurities in cases like _that_ are like “static” on your radio. _You might want static and harshness with anone (which is like hard rock or “industrial”), but usually you don’t with something like anol (a symphony)._
> 
> It’s just the matter of using the right chemical for the job. Of course, since we’re more focused on recipes and repeatability here, the purest chemicals are really the most appropriate.
> 
> I am preparing a public split test where you can try a standard anol vs. a rougher synthesis. Maybe I can do this with anone, too. I just need to source the rougher chemicals.
> 
> In the meantime, feel free to compare and contrast P88 vs. P93 here.
> 
> Jas
> 
> PS – Another major difference you should remember, of course, is that we can always make more P93 reliably (since it’s “the standard”) whereas a new batch of P88 will almost definitely be different. Even when a commercial process does something useful, it’s never as reliable as a more academic process. In the long term, it’s best to figure out what the useful impurities in a commercial synthesis are.
> 
> Extensive lab analysis is lengthy, and expensive (often more than our current budget allows, which is another reason we like to stick to standards whenever possible), but it’s ultimately more reliable than exclusively depending on “luck of the draw” when it comes to commercial bulk style synthesis.

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2 days ago I tried 25mcg’s of P96 with 2 sprays of IG. I was thinking that since P96 works well with A314 it should work with IG. I noticed no unusual reactions. I didn’t like it. Maybe it was me. I will mark this test as inconclusive. I’ll revisit this test.

I read everything I could find on P96 before I purchased it. I only found 2 threads that made any sense. Most threads and posts were just gushing praises with no real information to back it up. Most P96 reports were written by noobs and/or did not contain acceptable empirical evidence.

One thread of the 2 coherent P96 threads was written by Steve O who seemed to believe P96 is a binder. I’m still testing so I can’t say.

Before I start testing a molecule or mix I read everything about it. I then use this information as a baseline but I don’t really care about what others have written I only care about my observations.

I trust the writings of Tatcius the most because I always come to the same conclusions that he does.

The other coherent P96 thread was written by Dancing Joker. Yesterday, I went back to look over Dancing Jokers notes on P96 again and I saw that 2 days ago I had written the same thing that he did.

We both wrote that P96 was like TAA and that it had smoothing qualities.

**Testing**

Yesterdays test was 50mcg’s of P96 with 2 drops of A314 and 2 sprays of TUTH.

The cashier at the drugstore who never says anything to me commented on my haircut.

At the next stop (the grocery store) the cashier commented on my choice of ice cream.

Well, it’s on to making dosage adjustments:

Dosage Test 1. 25mcg’s of P96 with 1 drop of A314 and 2 sprays of TUTH  
Dosage Test 2. 25mcg’s of P96 with 3 drops of A314 and 2 sprays of TUTH  
Dosage Test 3. 50mcg’s of P96 with 1 drop of A314 and 2 sprays of TUTH  
Dosage Test 4. 50mcg’s of P96 with 2 drops of A314 and 3 sprays of TUTH

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P96 test continued

**On 2/17/201** 4 I tried:

25mcg’s of P96 with 1 drop of A314 and 2 sprays of TUTH

I didn’t notice anything special. It was like the volume was turned on but it was low.

**On 2/18/2014** I tried:

50mcg’s of P96 with 3 drop of A314

People seemed eager to please me and eager to leave my presence. I don’t know what to make of it except that I think the P96 is interracting with the RONE. Perhaps it is smoothing it out and amplifying it (raising the volume).

Today I am wearing 50mcg’s of P96 solo. Report to come later.

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Today I am wearing 50mcg’s of P96 solo.

People seem talkative but nothing out of the ordinary. I did notice that at 50mcg’s people do not linger in my presence. They always seem to want to go but they can’t stop having a conversation with me. Eventually they break away

Also what is really noticable to report are the self effects. The self effects are an uplifting positive feeling at the beginning and a crash at the end. I applied P96 at 8am and around 1pm I felt like I was crashing.

It’s 2pm and I’m totally worn out. I may go get a Coca-Cola.

I think I hit the balanced combo on the first shot: 25mcg’s of P96 with 2 drops of A314 and 2 sprays of TUTH.

So far P96 is just another overhyped molecule. I still have other tests I must do. I have to test P96 at 75mcg’s and 100mcg’s solo. I also want to test it with 3 and 4 sprays of TUTH.

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P96 test

Yesterday I wore 25mcg’s of P96 with 2 sprays of TUTH.

I this is a good combo. The P96 was like Alpha Androstenol on steroids. The P96 combined with TUTH made people chattier.

Herein lies the problem with testing single molecules solo. Some molecules don’t react except in the presence of other molecules. An example would be Alpha Androstenol. Alpha Androstenol seems to react better when combined with Beta Androstenol. Not only that but when you vary the ratio of Alpha and Beta Androstenol you get different results.

When I wear A314, It seems like P96 reacts well with RONE but it may very well be reacting with the Nols in the A314. Because of the lack of transparancy I can only theorize about what P96 is or what it is doing. It’s all speculation. I’m not happy with not being able to pin down what is happening but I guess what is supposed to happen is that we report the combo’s and reactions and Androtics does the rest.

Anyway, moving on…P96 does not jive well with NPA or LIIK or IG.

Today I am wearing 25mcg’s of P96 with 3 sprays of TUTH. Report to come later.

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