# parfumer's alcohol **URL:** \ **Category:** Parfum / Fragrance\ **Created:** [March 1, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/parfumers-alcohol/2277 "2007-03-01T05:17:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/parfumers-alcohol/2277/1 "2007-03-01T05:17:19Z")
Is parfumer’s alcohol the same thing as everclear? ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 11:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/parfumers-alcohol/2277/2 "2007-03-01T11:57:27Z")
No, nothing like it at ALL. [Gemlite.com](http://Gemlite.com) do the best perfumer’s alcohol that the public are able to purchase. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/parfumers-alcohol/2277/3 "2007-03-03T19:36:48Z")
Ethanol (Everclear) works well as a carrier for perfume oils. However, if you sell a perfume made with it you are likely to run afoul of various government agencies. Perfumer’s alcohol is not potable, and thus avoids the various regulations for commercial use. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/parfumers-alcohol/2277/4 "2007-03-05T05:20:14Z")
Thanks Ail > [@hlw3](#): > > Ethanol (Everclear) works well as a carrier for perfume oils. However, if you sell a perfume made with it you are likely to run afoul of various government agencies. > > Perfumer’s alcohol is not potable, and thus avoids the various regulations for commercial use. That’s good to know. I more looking for something to make [pheromone](https://a314.com/) dilutions with. I think I need formulators alcohol as it had DPG in it. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/parfumers-alcohol/2277/5 "2007-03-05T16:20:32Z")
You should NOT use Everclear for perfume-making! Michael has posted about this several times, and those of us who have been making perfumes for years, cringe when we see it suggested. It is far too crude to use on the skin. Want to strip your skin? Use Everclear. Want to keep the skin in one piece and make a quality blend? Use proper perfumer’s alcohol. Denatured if you can. Use Everclear to clean out bottles and vials before you decant mixes into them - and that’s IT. Even Stolichnaya is a better bet than Everclear for a perfume base! If you want to make an oil-only blend (these are decanted into bottles with a roller-head), use pure Jojoba, Apricot, coconut or Almond Oil as your carrier. Do NOT add perfumer’s alcohol for this type of blend. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/parfumers-alcohol/2277/6 "2007-03-06T20:40:58Z")
> [@toilofday](#): > > \ … I more looking for something to make pheromone dilutions with. I think I need formulators alcohol as it had DPG in it. toil, as far as I can tell, ethanol is ethanol is ethanol, although how the ethanol is processed and packaged can make a difference. Formulator’s alcohol includes some DPG so that you can mix the alcohol with both water and oil and obtain a **clear solution** (e.g. 12% active content, 28% alcohol, 60% distilled water) – without the DPG, the solution would be a milky dispersal of oil, alcohol and water. To be sold for perfuming purposes, in the USA ethanol has to be denatured. Bitrex is the product of choice for this purpose: if you drink denatured alcohol, you get very very ill. Perfumer’s alcohol is ethanol and Bitrex. Good perfumer’s alcohol is anhydrous, i.e., no water impurities (pure alcohol will even absorb water present in the air: a small amount.) Formulator’s alcohol is perfumer’s alcohol with DPG; it’s also best if anhydrous. Whatever other impurities may be included are another question, but – begging to differ with Ail – common sense says **to me** that food grade alcohol is safe to apply to the outside of your body if it is safe to apply inside. **Pragmatics**. A pint of perfumer’s DPG will run about $4 on the internet from a perfume supplier. A quart of either Perfumers or Formulator’s alcohol runs about $18. You cannot ship more than a quart via _ **UPS ground** _ in one package unless you pay a **Hazmat** fee; you cannot ship either of those alcohol formulations by air or by USPS. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 11:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/parfumers-alcohol/2277/7 "2007-03-06T23:40:51Z")
> [@MarkL](#): > > …To be sold for perfuming purposes, in the USA ethanol has to be denatured. Bitrex is the product of choice for this purpose: if you drink denatured alcohol, you get very very ill. > > Perfumer’s alcohol is ethanol and Bitrex. Good perfumer’s alcohol is anhydrous, i.e., no water impurities (pure alcohol will even absorb water present in the air: a small amount.) > … Some of the chemicals used to denature alcohol leave a bitter or otherwise bad taste, even after the alcohol has evaporated. Pure ethanol won’t do that. Many people wouldn’t care, but some might.