# Passing out? **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346 "2009-04-24T16:07:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/1 "2009-04-24T16:07:13Z")
For some reason, whenever I wear [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), I feel like I’m going to pass out. I haven’t started on high doses yet. Only 1-2 sprays. Does anyone know why? Perfume doesn’t have this kind of effect of me. ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/2 "2009-04-25T03:31:33Z")
Is it the alcohol base? Do you feel better after the products dry down, or do you continue to feel bad? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/3 "2009-04-25T04:26:35Z")
Hi Do you mean you get a little head rush sort of like when you stand up to fast and you feel lightheaded for a minute or two. How long does the feeling last ? Its not unusual when you first start using them. Usually your neurotransmitters in your brain gradually send signals to the rest of your body. When you wear mone you inhale more so they sort of put Your NT’s into overdrive and they begin to rapidly fire messages to the rest of your body. Sort of like caffeine does and this is probably what the light headed feeling is about. Its not harmful but can be unsettling when you first start out. Most people adjust after using them for a while. Here are some tips to follow Use them to the back of the body so your not inhaling them all the time. When you apply your mones. Hold your breath as you do it and walk away from the area that you sprayed them so you do not inhale a large wet dose. As you adjust to them this will subside Be sure to never apply your mones right before you drive or in a enclosed place like a car until this feeling adjusts. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 11:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/4 "2009-04-25T11:48:36Z")
The effect lasts throughout the wear. I have a hard time breathing and feel very weak and light headed. I will try not to inhale them. Normally I apply them to my wrists, hair, or neck. I’ll just limit it to the hair and back for now. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/5 "2009-05-13T00:35:36Z")
Although the passing out effect doesn’t affect me much anymore, I’ve decided that Instant Shine isn’t the product for me. I think the other products might be okay, but IS just makes me sleepy and moody. I’ve changed the doses and such, but it just isn’t working out. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) seems to have effects though. I might experiment with different pheromones in the future. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/6 "2009-05-13T01:08:12Z")
Have you tried applying to the back of the body ? Ishine can send the neurotransmitters into rapid fire which can be draining. I sometimes get very sleepy after having it on for a few hours. Its spring and summer is approaching as well. You could try behind the knees or thighs if you have shorts on. Jasmin told me taking some good multi vitamins helps, the B-complex ones and she told me to look into nootropics which is a supplement regimen of sorts. It seems to help and I have a ton of energy now. Of course if its really doing a number on you stop using it but I just wanted to give you some suggestions to try. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/7 "2009-05-13T03:10:01Z")
The effect is pretty immediate. According to my journals entries, the sleepy effect takes place within 10 minutes. I also recall feeling the need to leave my unexplainable bad time at prom so I could go to bed (I had sprayed 2-3 sprays before going out). Overall, I don’t know if I really need it. My yearbook comments are almost always about how I bring smiles to people who have been having bad days and lighten up the room. Just the other day an artist acquaintance confessed “you radiate life, you shine” and that I was her muse for painting. It sounds pretty egotistical, but I feel like it’s necessary to get that information out there for these effects to make any sense. Because I’m pretty used to getting comments like that, perhaps my body already produces and excess of “shine” pheromones and doesn’t like the overload? You might be right though about application. I have applied it to my shoulders and hair, but not my legs. I’ll try that with the few applications I have left. Either way, I definitely get hits off of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), so I’m not going to abandon the pheromone idea altogether. I already take multi-vitamins, but I’ll definitely keep the leg application in mind. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 10:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/8 "2009-05-13T10:52:27Z")
Hmm well your young and TAA which is what Ishine is made from is a youthful molecule. Maybe you make a lot of TAA already and even a little added is just to much. That would be a good thing actually means you have a great magnetic personality. You can exchange the bottle for something else or a refund. Mones are not one size fits all. Some I avoid like IFM which does nothing at all for me. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/9 "2009-05-13T12:35:49Z")
Yeah you’re probably right. Hmmm…I didn’t know we could exchange them. What could I exchange it for? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/10 "2009-05-13T15:11:27Z")
Well You can return it under the guarantee then they will give you a store GC equaling the value of Ishine to use on anything you want. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/11 "2009-05-13T15:57:31Z")
Alrighty. I might do that. How do I return it? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/12 "2009-05-13T18:59:39Z")
Well you go to the smartmones site and login. Go to orders and tracking on the right then find your order that contains it and click on it. Then at the botpm there is a return form to fill out. Tell them your problem and Steve and Mick will be happy to help you out. They also have … In my signature below there is a support suite link . There they have a knowledge base that Steve wrote to help with all sorts of store questions and concerns and a ticket system to contact them. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/13 "2009-05-13T22:19:31Z")
Thank you very much! ---
**Author:** ![TheCentaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@TheCentaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCentaur)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/14 "2009-05-14T19:33:14Z")
anyone here care to test an OD of TAA, or shine? that would back up some of the claims. I dont have enough shine left, or I would test. ---
**Author:** ![kingy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kingy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kingy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/15 "2009-05-14T23:29:34Z")
cool thread! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/16 "2009-05-15T08:23:53Z")
I sometimes use 4 to 5 sprays of 8X. At first with a little lightheadedness but its fine now. I do get tired later in the day quicker though but never to the point of passing out. Actualy a lot of people have mega dosed with it with good results. MOnes are not one size fits all though and sometimes there are those that dont mesh with us. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/passing-out/28346/17 "2009-05-15T15:16:36Z")
4 to 5 sprays of 8X shine? Jeez that’s expensive…