# PDHolloway Journal of Pheromones

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [December 3, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292 "2015-12-03T04:55:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![PDHolloway](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pdholloway/32/5197_2.png) [@PDHolloway](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PDHolloway)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/1 "2015-12-03T04:55:59Z")

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Hello Everyone my name is Paul and I thought I would start by saying I wish I found Phermones a lot sooner then finding them now. A lot more would of happen if I did. Let me give you my backstory and what lead me to Phermones. In 2004, I moved to California and began working at the same company with my only girlfriend at the time. Once we meet there was a instant connection. We began to date and had a good run for 3 - 4 years.

I had to announce to her due to financial reasons, I had to move to New Mexico with my family. It completely destroyed her. We tried to do the long distance thing but it just led to her giving up and wanting to move on. So I would hear about the guys she was dating and as soon as her new relationships started, we would cut off all communication. I would think that I would never here from her again until I did. After time passed I would hear her voice again as we continued to talk about our lives via being 2 states apart.My ex would go on and date 7 guys while I was away. Suprisingly, none of them worked out with the longest time frame we went without talking was about 6 months.

Meanwhile, I didn’t have as good luck with the ladies then my ex did. I did instantly make a connection with someone who kept flinging her hair,winking at me and telling me I photographed well. Even though I was enjoying the flirting, I was still hung on my ex even though she was dating other people. It just didn’t feel like the right time for me. There were others who I established a “friend zone” with and if I stayed longer it could of turned into something.

I finally announce to my ex that I am returning back. I transferred back to the same job and we could hit it off again. She was happy at first for about two months. Then she dumped me on Facebook and 24hours after breaking up on Facebook she started dating another guy. A rebound.  
My theory of what happened is one of her other ex’s that still talks to her was sucking up to her when her guard was down and convinced her that he is the better catch. I want to slap that jack —. Now I have to deal with working with my ex, seeing her at work with her new boyfriend and giving me the cold shoulder. We barely talk to each other. If we do, its a friendly conversation.

Thats when I decided to try phermones. My first attempt is to try and do a safe one and see if my ex has any responses. If she doesn’t then use it on other women in the workplace so my ex can see me around other women and maybe trigger jealously or something because I think she considers me her safety net. If her relationship fails, she will probably come crawling back but if she see’s more women flirting around me, she will realize that safety net is gone and she is stuck with that guy.

So in the next couple days I am doing my research and buying my first batch of phermones and testing it in the workplace. I will record my results on here.🆒

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/2 "2015-12-03T14:41:21Z")

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Good story so far. So what are you looking at getting?

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/3 "2015-12-03T14:54:49Z")

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Good to see you have started a journal already. Do you need help choosing your munitions?

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**Author:** ![PDHolloway](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pdholloway/32/5197_2.png) [@PDHolloway](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PDHolloway)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/4 "2015-12-03T14:56:11Z")

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I just bought a bottle of Evolve XS ([https://pheromonexs.com/Evolve-Pheromone-Spray-men](https://pheromonexs.com/Evolve-Pheromone-Spray-men)) which should be here in a couple days. Later I am going to buy Turn Up The Heat and Instant Honesty

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/5 "2015-12-03T15:08:01Z")

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I know nothing about Evolve, but I think you should not skip [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for your particular situation 🙂.

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**Author:** ![PDHolloway](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pdholloway/32/5197_2.png) [@PDHolloway](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PDHolloway)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 5:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/6 "2015-12-04T05:13:54Z")

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An Update I just ordered Evolve XS

Also Instant Honest To Go 4x Strength, Ammo To Go and Turn Up The Heat To Go

Results coming soon

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/7 "2015-12-04T20:11:12Z")

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Is there a reason why you chose IH 4X, that’s heavy stuff to start with 🙂?

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**Author:** ![PDHolloway](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pdholloway/32/5197_2.png) [@PDHolloway](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PDHolloway)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/8 "2015-12-05T02:39:50Z")

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Trying to see if I can get my ex to be more honest with me. Maybe get some confessions and also maybe find out how others view me. It will be nice to see in the workplace

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**Author:** ![PDHolloway](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pdholloway/32/5197_2.png) [@PDHolloway](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PDHolloway)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/9 "2015-12-08T02:20:31Z")

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I got my To Go Bottles of Ammo,IH and TUTH. I don’t work tomorrow but will try one of them at work when I return on Wednesday. Out of these 3 which should I put on when I go to work Ammo?

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/10 "2015-12-08T02:23:25Z")

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Ammo and/or IH can do. Just make sure to start with low dose of each. Especially because you have IH 4X… Half a spray IH to begin with I’d say, at the most.

TUTH should stay out of workplace for most. Try it at a bar or a club. Or on a date. Once the woman is comfortable with you. Definitely.

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**Author:** ![PDHolloway](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pdholloway/32/5197_2.png) [@PDHolloway](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PDHolloway)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/11 "2015-12-08T03:16:15Z")

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Here is a short story before I start using the mones for today at work. I get there and my ex is giving me the cold shoulder. Doesn’t acknowledge me. I was standing by the time clock, she comes by doesn’t look at me and just walks into the break room. Later on I am throwing some cardboard and see my ex in a distance sitting down and talking to other co-workers. I come back and she looks like she might be crying and then looks over at me as well as everyone she was talking to turns their head when they see me. I felt like saying “What?”. I just walked back to the floor. Lets see what Ammo will do on Wednesday 🙂

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/12 "2015-12-08T16:47:46Z")

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Ammo maybe 1 spray I would test out and see what you get. I wouldn’t go over 2 sprays because it is a work place and you should be ok. Down the road maybe try half a spray of IH on one of your wrists smeared to the other wrist on top of the Ammo and see what you get.

As far as the EX I wouldn’t stress to much about it. I mean you do you work there and have to make a living to. I guarantee you if you do things right and go out and wear a good combo of say Ammo as your base you will be getting women for sure. Before you know it you won’t have to think twice about your EX. If things are meant to be she will open up and you guys will be together and if not there is a lot of women out there so no worries.

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**Author:** ![PDHolloway](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pdholloway/32/5197_2.png) [@PDHolloway](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PDHolloway)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/13 "2015-12-29T06:28:43Z")

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Here is a quick update on my mones:

I have been trying other mones not on this site. I didn’t have that luck as I didn’t see any big effects. So I tried one spray of Ammo on the right side of my neck and some cologne my sister got me for Christmas on the other side of my neck. That day I did not see any big difference. I took a shower and washed most of it off my neck. Today, I just tried one spray on one side of my neck, my results.

I first encounter my ex who is sitting down with her boyfriend. I walk right past both of them. I clock in and head to my Photo Lab, open the lab as I see my ex talking to her boyfriends about movies. They sit down at the waiting room area and I pick of 4 boxes to be shipped out. I walk past my ex and her boyfriend with my hands full as I passed them. Trying to avoid them I go back to my department the opposite side of where I was. When I got there I realized I still needed to get my keys so I walked past them again. This time my ex was saying goodbye to her boyfriend as she was telling him when she was getting off work. Here I come and she acted very awkward towards seeing me see her see her boyfriend off for the day. I go to the back to get my keys and try and go the opposite way but see my ex along the way. She is at her locker and as I walk past her she lets out a friendly, “Hi”

(I just saw you with your boyfriend and she is acting like that didn’t even happen)

Her tone of voice was very Happy and Friendly towards me.

Through the day I didn’t notice anything with other women but I was by myself most of my shift and didn’t really pay attention to other women.

After I went to lunch, I was waiting by the time clock and my ex meets up with me and acts really friendly. Starts a convo like the breakup never happened and asked me how my Christmas was. I told her my sister drank too much. She laughed and told me not to let my sister get to me.

In reality, I can handle my sister and I am having problems with my ex. I hurried up and clocked in and as I was leaving my ex was talking as I was leaving “Well See You Next Time, Take Care” I’m like yeah take care.

Anyway, I don’t know if this was the works of Ammo or just her trying to make things better between us.

Another update on the 31st when I work with her again and maybe double dosing the Ammo.

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/14 "2015-12-29T19:32:47Z")

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Nice start, for sure 🙂.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/15 "2015-12-30T03:01:22Z")

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Good Story so far. Seems like all the walking past her the mone cloud hit her for sure.

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**Author:** ![PDHolloway](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pdholloway/32/5197_2.png) [@PDHolloway](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PDHolloway)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/16 "2015-12-30T04:14:42Z")

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That was just with one spray on one side of my neck. Wonder what would happen if I sprayed it on both sides lol  
She may be with a new boyfriend now, but I have the power of mones working for me haha. He doesn’t stand a chance when I’m around lol

How would Ammo work if female family members where around you? Would they become friendlier?

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/17 "2015-12-30T04:58:39Z")

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Ammo gets nice results from family in my case. Friendly/laidback respect vibe.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/18 "2015-12-30T17:07:22Z")

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Yeah like Conj said I get more like a cool respect vibe. There is no sexualness with other family members. Now I had an ex a while back that when I would wear Ammo around here mom she would make sexual suggestions towards me, but that was just because she was like that and would just screw anything.

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**Author:** ![PDHolloway](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pdholloway/32/5197_2.png) [@PDHolloway](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PDHolloway)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/19 "2016-01-01T05:21:39Z")

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New Years Eve Update

I decide to put on some Ammo today and put two sprays on the side of each of my neck. I get to work and my ex is there having a break. She looks upset and she tells me she was having problems with her brother and he was kicked out. I told her and her mother Happy New Year and clocked in.

Later on I was dusting off some dust from the TVs and my ex and her mom walk by telling me I missed a spot and walk off laughing. Its nice to see both of them being more friendlier around me even though my ex is with another guy, they are returning to the old versions i knew before the breakup.

Later while I was on lunch and I was just walking around my ex comes up to me and tells me a latter fell on her face. I took a step back, looked her in the eyes and told her to be careful.I wanted to say more but I let her deal with her problems. Stress at home isn’t making her think straight. On my way back to the break room I see her current boyfriend waiting for her. I guess she went home early and he came by to check on her. Went to the breakroom and her mother walks in. Arranges that her dad went to pick her up and they are taking her to the hospital. My ex’s mother says she just wants to be at home and recover. She had to make a doctors appt. She didn’t have a good day ☹

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**Author:** ![Smellymen2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Smellymen2002](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellymen2002)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pdholloway-journal-of-pheromones/65292/20 "2016-01-01T14:59:50Z")

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I’m glad to see your having results with ammo. I have read all your posting and I have a main question. Why are you still going after a girl, who broke up with via Facebook? If she cannot do it face to face that is not the quality of woman you need in your life. YOU are so much better than that your are the prize my friend not her.

Trust me I understand what it is to have a broken heart moving on is tough, but if she does get back with you what makes you think she won’t do it again?

What I would do in this situation is just ignore her, if she is bringing her boyfriend by, she trying to cause you pain by twisting the knife in.

I want to make it clear here I’m not judging you, just pointing out the fact you deserve a hell of alot better.

P.S. do not listen to her problems at all that is what she has a boyfriend for. This will show that your time is valuable. Show that you don’t have time to listen to her if your not getting anything in return from it. (This will probably be one of the hardest things you will ever do.)

This seems like a dick move it is, but it will help you move on and she will realize your not a push over.

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