# Perception is reality **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 18, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787 "2008-09-18T03:25:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sgorban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sgorban](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sgorban)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787/1 "2008-09-18T03:25:35Z")
Hello all, This has probably been said but anywhoo. This isnt a slam on the products or their effectiveness but how much success do you think is purely psychological? Every woman would say they are attracted to a confident man so, if you feel confident from what your wearing havent you taken a big step forward before any benefits? Only being a user for a few days I started to wonder the other day. If you believe your projecting an image most times you will be. For example take someone who has had continued success and replace their current use with a placebo, how different would it be? My personal belief so far is its a combination, there is a real improvement with the products but there is also a personal improvement. I think when people set expectations it is turned into reality. This isnt obviously 100% of the time. Hope that made sense! ---
**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787/2 "2008-09-18T03:31:36Z")
yeah. thats basically the perception on a314. it works great but the thing is you “think” you are more intimidating and important so you act the way you feel. you are exactly right. it is a combo of pheros and a self confidence issue. ---
**Author:** ![casanova4win](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova4win/32/1529_2.png) [@casanova4win](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/casanova4win)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787/3 "2008-09-18T05:32:15Z")
Yeah but its gotta be more than that…Phelure hasn’t worked for alot of people and they have no problem saying it. Point being people generally know which products work for them and have no problem slammin the ones that dont work. It may be a little psychological but it more phero. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787/4 "2008-09-18T07:06:19Z")
I’ve tried both the gel and spray versions of Perception and they didn’t do jack for me. Plus the bottle leaked terribly. As for the effectiveness of artificial [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) in general, success is 95% about your persona, social status, appearance and social skills. Mones merely give you an edge. Otherwise you could sprinkle pheromones on a stiff at a funeral and watch all the women hump themselves raw 'n red. If only women were like other mammals. Just spray androstenone up her nose and she automatically assumes the mating position: [Boarmateâ„¢](http://www2.dupont.com/DAHS_EMEA/en_GB/products/spec_prod/boarmate.html) ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787/5 "2008-09-18T09:57:43Z")
Wow now were up to 95% Gegogi LOL Used to be 90% 😉 I dont totally agree with the percentage, Why ?? Because you can spray Turn Up The Heat on a inanimate objects and still feel the effect even if the object you sprayed isn’t feeling particularly confident at the moment. This has been tested alot. I frequently spray my bosses chair with Instant Shine or [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and yes it works consistently every time and it has nothing to to with confidence or style of her furniture. She tends to stay put when I spray them to. I have had men at work blind test various products and they dont act or dress any different then normal when wearing them. They get hits consistently. Congruency and confidence is important because you dont want to work against your pheromone signature. Your looking for the best possible reactions but I would say the percentage ratio is way closer to 70% you 30% pheromones or better. Of course it may vary slightly for each individual by to say it is 95% inaccurate in my opinion. Tish ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787/6 "2008-09-18T12:59:38Z")
I have to agree with Tisha here, as usual! There are many Putatives available here with no description of what they will do or what you can expect. Those of us who test them usually report similar results, although not always. When I test something new that I’ve not worn before, I do not look for or read others reports first. I want to know what that molecule is doing for me, without a preconceived idea of what it should do. And, I don’t want to taint my testing by trying to project or seek a certain effect. After testing and reporting on the last couple of Putatives I tried, I then looked for other reports to see if other users agreed with my thoughts on the effects. While we may not have used the same words to describe those effects, or even descibed quite the same effect, our reporting and thoughts on what the molecule was doing were close enough for me to know that those effects were genuine. Take a look at my recent report on P87, then look for other reports. We did not describe the same effects, but in context those descriptions were similar enough to see that the molecule does have a real and specific effect. Can a preconceived idea of what to expect influence results? Of course it can. The mind is an amazing thing and I’m sure that many of the posts here are at least partially due to and influenced by placebo effects. But, pheros are real and do have an actual impact on the user and those around them. If you know Turn Up The Heat will help ratchet things up in the bedroom, does it really matter how much was the phero and how much was your expectation of it? ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787/7 "2008-09-18T19:16:13Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I’ve tried both the gel and spray versions of Perception and they didn’t do jack for me. Plus the bottle leaked terribly. Hey G, I don’t think he was talking about the product, but about the psychological state.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787/8 "2008-09-19T01:08:02Z")
I know. I was just jerkin’ his chain! > [@](#): > > Of course it may vary slightly for each individual by to say it is 95% inaccurate in my opinion. Okay Tisha, I’ll go back to 90% you and 10% pheromones! I must say in my life and profession, I feel it’s 100% about me and what I do! Mones don’t make me a better artist, earn more money, make more friends or get me laid more. I’m wholly responsible for that. However pheromones do make social interactions a little easier and smoother–especially the initial stages–and that’s the cat’s meow for me. Could I live without pheromones and be happy and successful? Sure. I did for most of my life. But what the hell, I don’t hesitate spending buckets of money on unnecessary things that make my life a little easier, exciting or enjoyable: expensive toys, designer threads, organic food, nights on the town, luxury vacations or gambling sprees. Mones are like wearing a well fitting designer shirt–not necessary for life–but that positive first impression causes people to treat and think of you differently–better–than if you were wearing Gap or Pennys. Of course, you’re on your own after the excitement of the first impression fades. You need to back up your engaging persona with substance and action. Mones ain’t gonna help you here. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787/9 "2008-09-19T08:57:11Z")
> [@](#): > > You need to back up your engaging persona with substance and action. pheromones ain’t gonna help you here. This I totally agree with, Once you attract or make that first impression with your mones you have to have something to back it up or you will have little success. I guess it depends alot on the mone your using and the situation to. I am one of those people who find mones useful for so much more then just attraction or sexual encounters. (not that those aren’t fun to LOL) I am referring to them as a whole. I have often read your posts about A1 and its effect on your Ex, You mention it really calms her and makes her more pleasant to be around. I would say thats more the mone then it is you. (no offense LOL) It really has little to do with her attraction to you but the feeling the mone is evoking in her. > [@](#): > > I feel it’s 100% about me and what I do! I agree with that but the way I think about it is, once you apply your mones it becomes part of you and your persona. Wearing mones is “what you do”. Its not the only thing you do of course but its part of that 100%. Just like dressing sharp gives you a edge so does your mone signature. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perception-is-reality/19787/10 "2008-09-20T02:09:24Z")
> [@](#): > > I have often read your posts about Androstadienone and its effect on your Ex, You mention it really calms her and makes her more pleasant to be around. I would say thats more the pheromone then it is you. (no offense LOL) It really has little to do with her attraction to you but the feeling the pheromone is evoking in her. Dang Tisha, you have some memory! True, I must say A-1 is the only pheromone which has an obvious and predictable effect on a mood condition I can’t seem to override or make up for with my sparkling personality and hot body! Of course I’n trying to lighten things up but the A-1 always puts it over the top. Unfortunately it doesn’t help if she’s really pissed at me. Oddly, A-1 is probably the pheromone I use the least. It’s only a monthly thing at the most. Some months I luck out and don’t need it. But, yeah, my main use for pheromones is enhanced social and professional fluidity, i.e., easier communication and cooperation. I’d still get it done without pheromones, but would have to struggle a bit more, raise my voice–maybe even threaten someone–and in turn, look less elegant. And life is all about looking and feeling smooth, cool and collected. Don’t ever let your enemies or competition see you sweat (they’re smell your stress pheromones!).