# Personal Thoughts on Mones... 1Alpha's ramblings! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 14, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580 "2011-11-14T20:13:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/1 "2011-11-14T20:13:56Z")
I have this nagging feeling that this has been touched on in my stroll through this labyrinth of a forum. I’ve been reading up on the forum and thought about how mones fit in the social equation. Some have proposed that certain none heavy products are prone to cause fisticuffs others, that an other than desired response will be directed at the mone wearer. Or that the user will be getting women clawing all over him like a 21st century Casanova. Also, that being Ghosted, completely ignored, is a likely outcome to an exaggerated application of none. At my current level of mone experience, I can see that _ **all** _ of the above are possible. Some are more likely to occur than others. This does not make it more so because of my own personal experience. Maybe when I’ve applied a certain product, I’ve seen brawls breaking out more commonly than being ghosted, as an example. There are several variables that would need to be considered to see what is _ **LIKELY** _ to occur. I’ll try to direct my ramble on this. **What Attitudes are projected?** I realized the attitude and “presence” of the wearer will bear a strong influence in which direction the mone reaction will take. As to “presence”, that is, are they imposing or impressive in their character? Or is the user lacking in character and positive qualities? Is he/she a ninnyhammer? This will have a direct impact on the influence of mones. I think this has a reciprocal relation to the environment that the user finds himself in. Is he using mones in a clubbing environment, partying, work, school, gym, church gatherings? Some environments, such as the first two indicated require a disihibited tendency, more of an animalistic attitude to get a “response” (Ex. Having sex). A shy wallflower will not have the same reactions. This brings me to the next point. **How does the mone affect to me and those around me?** Does the wearer have a general goal when wearing the mone or is he with a set it and forget it mindset? This is either a good thing or bad as congruence is not easily achieved without direction, a tendency or inclination of the user. Others have a ‘natural’ congruence to the mones they are using. This congruence factor has also been exhaustively examined in these forums. It’s a factor that is one of the most important variable to effectively using mones. You MUST be in a state of agreement with the mone signal you’re wearing. If contradictory signals are projected from your mones and yourself, either the mones effectiveness will be seriously diminished or completely ignored. I also include this as it can have a negating effect, when the subconscious of those around you cannot correlate the mones to the actions and attitudes of the user. You must be comfortable with yourself, at the very least, to let the mones signal do their thing!!! Otherwise, the mone signal is ignored. What reactions does the wearer have to the mones, normally? Are they aware of how mones will affect their emotional balance? I was wearing a particular P in my testing and found that it completely exhausted my patience level. It brought out the inner bitch in me! I was short tempered at work, with friends, everyone close to me. I was ticked at any little thing that was said, in the wrong way… I was seriously pissed! I found that others in my mone cloud would also likely develop similar tendencies with sufficient exposure time. The effects would diminish over time; it was about 3 to 4 hours when the effects would fade away completely. I DID NOT know what this P would do to me or those around me. Could I use it effectively in a social setting? Obviously not, until I eventually saw the trending of this P. Others have reported differing responses to mine on this P. If I would have used their experiences with this P as a foundation in a combo of mones for use at work, for example, I would have failed dramatically! **In what mental state are the people that I’m trying to influence?** Realizing that others have their own things going on will help in understanding that mones will NOT affect everyone the same way. Just knowing that will temper expectations. I was walking my dog, a beautiful retriever, and often get compliments on her expression, coat and temperament. While we were walking down the street, a women in her mid 30’s was doing her morning walk, walking up the street. I smiled at her and gave her a warm greeting. What was her response? She straightened her back, lifted her chin slightly, and continued walking. She wasn’t wearing headphones, listening to music. If that were the case, I would have just smiled, tried to make eye contact and just nod. But, she did NOT have a positive reaction to my greeting. I was considering that the smile, the warm tone of voice, some mone or even my dog’s presence would elicit at least a basic response, a salutation. Nope! As I continued on, I also saw walked by a man who was opening up the parking area of an office where I supposed he works. As he had already unlocked and was in the middle of moving the chain off to one side of the parking entrance I was approaching him. I, again smiled, and gave my morning salutations. His response? No smile, but a nod in my direction. His was a minimal response. I was slowly being overtaken by a father and his son, @ 7 years old or so. The boy was being taken to school a few blocks away. I had my dog heel next to me on some grass, a bit off of the sidewalk. This was to allow them more room to pass. Some people are nervous around ANY type of dog. As he approached, I also greeted with a similar enthusiasm and get a reciprocal response. His smile was infectious as well as his son’s. They briefly stopped and asked if my dog can be petted. I agreed and a few seconds later, they were off again with smiles and good-byes. I also had a mother and son walking close behind this father and son, greet and smile as well, to my offerings of good morning. Were mones at work here? Not at all, as I wasn’t wearing any. The only output was the ones I naturally produce. However, what was going through the first women’s mind? Did she have an argument with her boyfriend that morning before going out for her morning walk? Did she have a disturbingly frustrated call from her mother accusing her of being distant with her? Had she been bothered by guys during her morning walk and I reminded her of those situations? I don’t know! She was not in the mood for conversation, even a basic human one, such as a greeting. Was the man not responding to my natural mones? Did he have something against dogs? Is he racially biased? Was he late for work? I don’t know! His mood was leaning toward a focus on his “things” and cut the small talk. The man and the woman with the kids were more inclined to be friendly. Could it have been reversed, the man and woman with the kids respond coldly or not at all and the first two respond warmly? Sure! But, it happened this way, the friendly dog could have put them in a good mood. My warm smile could have been contagious. My natural mones could have a nol like aspect to them. My exercise wardrobe could have put them at ease as to my intentions. In all of these cases, the synthetic mone aspect was not part of the equation. Their mental disposition was at work in their responses. This, tempered with the chilly external environment, would have either handicapped or aided a particular mone application. **Other thoughts:** I had another experience with IShine and A314. While I was wearing these, I met a girl friend that I hadn’t seen in several months. Her greetings were warm enough, but, I noticed her hugs on greeting and departure were distant, as if she was holding back. It was more of a slight hug from the shoulders, sideways hug. She will normally be more of a frontal hugger. In talking with her, she’s been having guy difficulties as well as family problems, primarily with her father. Her response to my A314 and IShine? Could it be that she was subconsciously taking out her problems on me? Seeing me primarily as a daddy/male figure? A week later, we met again, I was mostly wearing IShine as I had only a couple of drops of A314 from 7 hours earlier. My IShine was refreshed from that early morning application, an hour or so before meeting her again. This time, her hugs lasted longer with a prolonged boobing upon greeting. Her smile and body language was inclined toward me. The departure was a basically a hug and a boob rub up and down before releasing. Surprising for sure, as I wasn’t expecting it, from my previous interactions with her. She was all smiles and honestly wanting to spend some time with my wife and I later in the week. Her mental disposition had handicapped my mones and later aided my mone application. That’s the way I see it. Please feel free to comment on these points or not. I’ve taken this textual stroll to annotate some of my thoughts on mones. I like to share this reflection with others, as well as to my future self! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/2 "2011-12-02T21:49:51Z")
Another golden bit of information that I decided was great enough to copy as its own post. I also made it a sticky! This is copied from 1Alpha’s journal: [Starting out with 'mones: Takin' it nice and slow... NOT!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340) ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/3 "2011-12-02T22:01:45Z")
Oh??? 😕 **I’m out for a couple of days and Steve O does what he pleases with my journal!? [[freesmileys.org - freesmileys Resources and Information.](http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/admin.gif%5C)]([freesmileys.org - freesmileys Resources and Information.](http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php))** **I can’t believe the liberties you guys take around here!!!** 😉🙂 😃 You honor me, good sir, by putting this up in its own thread… I just hope this helps out others in their mone expectations! 🙂([freesmileys.org - freesmileys Resources and Information.](http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)) ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/4 "2011-12-03T17:45:45Z")
First class post that deserves a wider airing. Thanks! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/5 "2011-12-05T20:06:05Z")
It really is a TOP CLASS post that deserves a wide audience and can serve the community well. I know there are many others, but because of limited time I just don’t have the time to read them all. I’m just glad someone quoted it, or I might have missed this one too. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/6 "2011-12-30T20:35:29Z")
I appreciate all of the thanks and reps from you guys! I can feel the love… 😃 Keep ‘em coming… and Keep on Testin’ and Reporting on your mones! ---
**Author:** ![Fezzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e19adc/32.png) [@Fezzy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fezzy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/7 "2012-01-06T02:14:48Z")
WoW! Great post 1Alpha 😉 Some Reps coming your way and I’ll be taking all of this in to account 😃 Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Zentasy72](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zentasy72/32/1955_2.png) [@Zentasy72](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zentasy72)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 10:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/8 "2012-01-06T10:08:55Z")
Yes, a brilliant post. Also great of Steve to make it a sticky. Good work guys! ---
**Author:** ![Bri72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@Bri72](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bri72)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/9 "2012-01-12T02:26:30Z")
[Observer Effect](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_%28physics%29) Does the girl act receptive to you because you are wearing [pheromones](https://a314.com/) or simply because you simply had the confidence of talking to her without the fear of being shot down?😛 There is no good way to test this, everyone is different, and the same person is going to be in a different mood on on different week/day/hour/second (at least for some people). ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 9:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/10 "2012-05-02T09:29:41Z")
I continue to find examples of the social equation that will have varying degrees of detrimental to advantageous overtures to the mone application. A strong influence that MUST be kept in mind are the social norms or anchors that we have in our society. This varies, sometimes widely, depending on the part of the world you live in. Since norms are mainly seen as constraining behavior, some of the important differences between moral, social and legal norms, as well as differences between norms and conventions, have been blurred. Much attention instead has to be paid to the conditions under which norms will be obeyed. You will then be able to utilize your mone application to its maximum potential when you maintain this understanding. This is a continuation of my ‘ramblings’ on this thread! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/11 "2012-05-02T09:45:21Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > I continue to find examples of the social equation that will have varying degrees of detrimental to advantageous overtures to the mone application. > A strong influence that MUST be kept in mind are the social norms or anchors that we have in our society. This varies, sometimes widely, depending on the part of the world you live in. > Since norms are mainly seen as constraining behavior, some of the important differences between moral, social and legal norms, as well as differences between norms and conventions, have been blurred. Much attention instead has to be paid to the conditions under which norms will be obeyed. You will then be able to utilize your mone application to its maximum potential when you maintain this understanding. > > This is a continuation of my ‘ramblings’ on this thread! 🙂 I agree to disagree 🆒 I think that most of the time that social anchors and norms are a good rule to go by, but from my experience going outside the norms are what equates the best hits. There is always a line you don’t want to cross, like wearing NPA to a funeral so something crazy like that. I think if someone truly wants to experience the full scope and benefit of mones the must be able to set foot outside of what is " morally or socially acceptable" ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/12 "2012-05-02T10:05:21Z")
Well, then, I’ll agree to that! 😉 This would then, IMO, spill over to each individuals personality makeup and how they want to be ‘seen’ by others. So, this is not only in keeping with a persons character, which is what one is; but their reputation, which is what one is thought to be by others. As you allude to, there are social norms that are strict, such as a funeral, where you wouldn’t be hitting on the gals in the crowd. But, possibly, IShine, IH, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), A314 or IG, may be more _beneficial_ to ‘wear’. This would depend on the user and HOW they used their mones in that scenario. What mental ‘restraints’ on behaviour each has which will affect their reputation, will also muddle the mone influence as well. Now, as to ‘expectations’ of behaviour in social settings, yes, you can get some ‘better’ hits when you push those ‘expectations’ or bend them to your benefit. Others can see these actions on your part and your ‘respect’ will increase in their eyes. You _ **ARE** _ the Trail Blazer. Follow HIM! With the mones influencing them as well, yes, I can see that these effects can be cultivated to Great Hits. This stepping out of these social ‘boundaries’ can also backfire on you as well. I think, if you’re honest about it, not hiding your feelings, you can get away with much and people will be, hopefully, forgiving at the very least or extremely attracted on the other end of the spectrum. > [@bestintel](#): > > I agree to disagree 🆒 I think that most of the time that social anchors and norms are a good rule to go by, but from my experience going outside the norms are what equates the best hits. > > There is always a line you don’t want to cross, like wearing NPA to a funeral so something crazy like that. > > I think if someone truly wants to experience the full scope and benefit of mones the must be able to set foot outside of what is " morally or socially acceptable" ---
**Author:** ![laciera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/da6949/32.png) [@laciera](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/laciera)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/13 "2012-05-14T06:43:15Z")
1Alpha your probably the best person to ask this. Ok so I have alot of experience with mones, good experiences especially with pherlure and a few other on market products, but the first time im using [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). I noticed something strange. 1 spray = no hits 2 sprays = No hits that night from girls my age at all, but next afternoon (when unshowered) i get a response from 2 older women, and this was on mones applied last night atleast 15 hours ago Should I move along to 3 sprays? or what do i dO ? ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/14 "2012-05-22T12:22:14Z")
Laciera, have you gotten anything since posting this? If not, I would suggest you try out AMMo at 2 sprays for a few days and observe. Interact, of course, with everyone around you like you normally would. Smile and be comfortable with yourself and others around you. If you don’t see anything after those 3 days, then, do another, 3rd shot of AMMO for a few days. Then, go without mones for a couple of days to see if you see a difference. Yes, mones will still be active and continue to influence with AMMO subtly working the next day. If this doesn’t get you some good results, which I suspect it will, then, go for IJ. Much higher none content. 🙂 1Alpha > [@laciera](#): > > 1Alpha your probably the best person to ask this. > > Ok so I have alot of experience with mones, good experiences especially with pherlure and a few other on market products, but the first time im using Ammo. > > I noticed something strange. > 1 spray = no hits > > 2 sprays = No hits that night from girls my age at all, > but next afternoon (when unshowered) i get a response from 2 older women, and this was on mones applied last night atleast 15 hours ago > > Should I move along to 3 sprays? or what do i dO ? ---
**Author:** ![kingtut\_savage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kingtut\_savage](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kingtut_savage)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/15 "2013-10-08T22:07:12Z")
. I was first introduced to the world of pheromones roughly 3 years ago. lol I actually thought I had achieved maximum success. little to I know that there was a whole world of unexplored territory just waiting for me to ravage. I had been using the pheromone soaps. the regular kind you can buy at publix or walmart Dial Magnetic and Zest Irresistible. I have never used any of the more official stuff. but I was wondering if anyone out there could compare the soaps to the sprays and oils ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/16 "2013-10-09T07:38:13Z")
> [@kingtut\_savage](#): > > . I was first introduced to the world of pheromones roughly 3 years ago. lol I actually thought I had achieved maximum success. little to I know that there was a whole world of unexplored territory just waiting for me to ravage. I had been using the pheromone soaps. the regular kind you can buy at publix or walmart Dial Magnetic and Zest Irresistible. I have never used any of the more official stuff. but I was wondering if anyone out there could compare the soaps to the sprays and oils You are best to stick to your Intro thread - Pitching-up on stickies is liable to be missed altogether. Also, there are lots of threads comparing sprays/oils and discussing Dial if you have a search in Mens. ---
**Author:** ![hankypanky2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hankypanky2/32/597_2.png) [@hankypanky2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hankypanky2)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 11:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/17 "2013-10-30T11:57:08Z")
good thread. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@Charles\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Charles_W)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/18 "2014-11-03T13:32:43Z")
The discussion continues as a featured thread. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/19 "2015-03-10T21:04:30Z")
Mmmm… I’m curious about this ‘featured’ thread. Is it going somewhere? I still have some additional rambling’s on mones and such. 😃 1Alpha ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580/20 "2015-03-10T21:18:52Z")
Keep-on 'ramblin please…! 🙂