# Persuasion Mix **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 2, 2007, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916 "2007-08-02T10:46:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/1 "2007-08-02T10:46:45Z")
I need ideas for a mix which I need for a situation where I need to persuade someone that I am correct. Its a formal situation, work-related, and I need to convince that my side of the situation is right, and get them to work with me rather than against. I need ideas for what I should use and what quantities… ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/2 "2007-08-02T11:53:11Z")
a314 is good. Are you really right? ---
**Author:** ![eshold1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3d9bf3/32.png) [@eshold1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eshold1)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/3 "2007-08-02T13:44:48Z")
Definately A314. Maybe a little bit of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)/Honesty, too? Of course, no amount of pheromones can replace a firm argument and negotiative skill. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/4 "2007-08-02T16:02:59Z")
A314, Honesty…maybe [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/). definitely IFM if you’re dealing with a lady ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/5 "2007-08-02T16:10:21Z")
The harder you hit them, the righter you are!!! .. . jk I agree with the others, A314. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/6 "2007-08-02T16:53:34Z")
A314 need I say more? ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/7 "2007-08-02T18:46:00Z")
Don’t forget about old fashion charisma. ---
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/8 "2007-08-04T17:05:38Z")
Yeh, I plan to negotiate very aggressively, and yes, I am right. But it may sttill be difficult if the person wants to, they can make things very difficult for me. I need to be careful as well as firm… Anyway, I suspected A314 but the question is how much? I heard overdosing is hard, and since its very important for me to get an edge in persuading, I was thinking of using 8 drops…? Also, do you suggest using none with that to avoid seeming too passive and not threatening enough, ie, too much of a pushover…? I need the right balance between seeming like an authority, being agressive, yet, being calm and friendly and trustworthy… I know at the end of the day, if he sets his mind to it, I will end up just losing. But my opinion is I have a good chance of persuading him to my side of the argument, probably 75%, I just need the best phero signiture to maximise my chances… I dont have a lot of timme to experriment, but I have gone out wwith 8 drops A314, 2 or 3 sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)… It was interesting, and from my interactions I got the feeling that people take me more seriously… ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/9 "2007-08-04T17:14:26Z")
> [@ProtoJay](#): > > …I was thinking of using 8 drops…? > > Also, do you suggest using none with that to avoid seeming too passive and not threatening enough, ie, too much of a pushover…? I need the right balance between seeming like an authority, being agressive, yet, being calm and friendly and trustworthy… > > I know at the end of the day, if he sets his mind to it, I will end up just losing. But my opinion is I have a good chance of persuading him to my side of the argument, probably 75%, I just need the best phero signiture to maximise my chances… I dont have a lot of timme to experriment, but I have gone out wwith 8 drops A314, 2 or 3 sprays of Ammo… It was interesting, and from my interactions I got the feeling that people take me more seriously… Only you know how the products work on your skin. I wouldn’t go near 8 drops for myself. I use the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) just to help with a tone, not to try to overpower. My personal limit for a situation like this would be 4. I might supplement with 5-10 mcg of -none also. However, I’m substantially older than you so I can probably use more without sending too agressive a vibe. I wouldn’t use Ammo in this situation myself, even as part of a mix. the cologne smell comes through, and it just isn’t the vibe I’d be looking for. It might work for you though. ---
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/10 "2007-08-04T19:44:20Z")
I dont think im that different from the average in terms of the best dose of A314… However, my worry is the dispersal of the [pheromone](https://a314.com/) molecules. Since its suspended in oil, it will diffuse alot more slowly. Since, I will have to apply the A314 very much before I need to go speak to the person (less than an hour), If i put a small amount, I would be worried that it would have little effect until way after the event. I was hoping of using the higher dose to offset that, and also just because I personally beleive my chances are better if I try to overpower them slightly… a bit more pressure on them, will help alot, as long as its not too much. I was debating 6 or 8 drops, but I havent ruled out going with less or even more… > [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Only you know how the products work on your skin. > > I wouldn’t go near 8 drops for myself. I use the pheromones just to help with a tone, not to try to overpower. My personal limit for a situation like this would be 4. I might supplement with 5-10 mcg of -none also. However, I’m substantially older than you so I can probably use more without sending too agressive a vibe. > > I wouldn’t use Ammo in this situation myself, even as part of a mix. the cologne smell comes through, and it just isn’t the vibe I’d be looking for. It might work for you though. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/11 "2007-08-04T20:08:42Z")
> [@ProtoJay](#): > > … my worry is the dispersal of the pheromone molecules. Since its suspended in oil, it will diffuse alot more slowly. Since, I will have to apply the A314 very much before I need to go speak to the person (less than an hour), If i put a small amount, I would be worried that it would have little effect until way after the event. I was hoping of using the higher dose to offset that… Whatever dose of a314 you use, it will be near it’s most powerful soon after application. I don’t think you need to worry about compensating for some delay in effect. ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/persuasion-mix/4916/12 "2007-08-04T20:57:58Z")
> [@ProtoJay](#): > > I dont think im that different from the average in terms of the best dose of A314… However, my worry is the dispersal of the pheromone molecules. Since its suspended in oil, it will diffuse alot more slowly. Since, I will have to apply the A314 very much before I need to go speak to the person (less than an hour), If i put a small amount, I would be worried that it would have little effect until way after the event. I was hoping of using the higher dose to offset that, and also just because I personally beleive my chances are better if I try to overpower them slightly… a bit more pressure on them, will help alot, as long as its not too much. I was debating 6 or 8 drops, but I havent ruled out going with less or even more… Why not apply a good 4 drops of A314 and spread it out to cover a large area of your person that is going to be closest to the target person. Also it wouldnt hurt to spray one of ammo in as well with the A314 just to help SPREAD it over a large area of coverage so it really is diffusing well at time of meeting. I usually have about 5 or 10 measured dosages of A314 made up with dispersant fragrance and whatever pheros i have decided to enhance the mix with in a sprayer, so i get a good surface coverage when i need it most.