# Petition for an Ammo version with P83 instead of -none

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/petition-for-an-ammo-version-with-p83-instead-of-none/189823>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 23, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/petition-for-an-ammo-version-with-p83-instead-of-none/189823 "2008-01-23T20:28:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/petition-for-an-ammo-version-with-p83-instead-of-none/189823/47 "2009-10-03T15:11:43Z")

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> [@bubblebob](#):
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> Every now and then someone finds this and pushes it up with a vote…
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> Now that I’ve used P83 for a while I’m not sure if this would be that much of a great idea anymore. I’d rather like to see what Elektra suggested - an Ammo with added P83. At least for me, P83 without any androstenone was never really sexual…

I can totally relate to [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) by itself being not as sexual. I’ve worn it a few times and always get the [human velcro effect](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-interesting-stuff/29154) but not because they are attracted. It is like it just totally removed any personal space I may have thought I had.

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