# PhatSounds need your help my fellow Pherotalkers!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 26, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308 "2008-11-26T19:38:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/1 "2008-11-26T19:38:47Z")

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Hello to all my phero buddies, i need your help as stated in the title there. ok this is the problem i’m facing\> I was invited to a special function by my old time friend that is held at my old hangout club Zouk. Ok you guys must be thinking what is this problem about? Well in his sms to me there, he said that my old time friend which is a model of his will be there. Ok i have lost contact with this model for a very long time & this is kinda the time to meet her again. She is hot looking, Japanese mixed(well a model what do you expect) & she have a master degree there.

My relationship with her are just close friends & nothing closer than that as she have told me she want to maintain it that way. It is hard to get her attention as she is stubborn like a rock to show any feelings there & she have that model type attitude(not your average girl attitude). Btw when i was friends with her at that time, i did not wear any pheros at all so to all here, this is my first time for a long time that i will be wearing pheros when i meet her tomorrow night. Btw my confidence will drop badly when every time i see her at that time. Well my confidence will be like that when i’m with a hot girl which is kinda weird to me. Oh yes the special function will be tomorrow night btw.

So do you have any advice or phero recommendations combos or phero stand alone to help me there? If you have, please do let me know & i would try my best to help you back in any way i can 🙂

Note: My buddy renny has given his advice there: His recommendation\> 2 sprays of AMMO + 1 drop of A314, Thank you buddy 😃

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/2 "2008-11-26T20:22:30Z")

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> [@PhatSounds](#):
>
> Hello to all my phero buddies, i need your help as stated in the title there. ok this is the problem i’m facing\> I was invited to a special function by my old time friend that is held at my old hangout club Zouk. Ok you guys must be thinking what is this problem about? Well in his sms to me there, he said that my old time friend which is a model of his will be there. Ok i have lost contact with this model for a very long time & this is kinda the time to meet her again. She is hot looking, Japanese mixed(well a model what do you expect) & she have a master degree there.
> 
> My relationship with her are just close friends & nothing closer than that as she have told me she want to maintain it that way. It is hard to get her attention as she is stubborn like a rock to show any feelings there & she have that model type attitude(not your average girl attitude). Btw when i was friends with her at that time, i did not wear any pheros at all so to all here, this is my first time for a long time that i will be wearing pheros when i meet her tomorrow night. Btw my confidence will drop badly when every time i see her at that time. Well my confidence will be like that when i’m with a hot girl which is kinda weird to me. Oh yes the special function will be tomorrow night btw.
> 
> So do you have any advice or phero recommendations combos or phero stand alone to help me there? If you have, please do let me know & i would try my best to help you back in any way i can 🙂
> 
> Note: My buddy renny has given his advice there: His recommendation\> 2 sprays of AMMO + 1 drop of A314, Thank you buddy 😃

Dude, no matter how many pheromones you wear you can’t make a girl like you. IF it does happen it’s only because maybe she DID have something for you to begin with, and the pheromones helped bring that out. So don’t get your hopes up too much, because then you’ll be upset and lose faith in pheromones if you don’t get what you want. It just doesn’t work that way.

Now since she probably just sees you as a friend for some reason, how about wear one or two sprays of Instant Jerk to show her you don’t fuck around? Coupled by some shots of Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Or you can substitute IS or IO with CTTM; I have no experience with this, but it sounds like it fits with your problem. If not then use some AMMO instead of CTTM or as an add on to IS, IO, and IJ.

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/3 "2008-11-26T20:47:33Z")

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> [@mikotorocks714](#):
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> Dude, no matter how many pheromones you wear you can’t make a girl like you. IF it does happen it’s only because maybe she DID have something for you to begin with, and the pheromones helped bring that out. So don’t get your hopes up too much, because then you’ll be upset and lose faith in pheromones if you don’t get what you want. It just doesn’t work that way.
> 
> Now since she probably just sees you as a friend for some reason, how about wear one or two sprays of Instant Jerk to show her you don’t fuck around? Coupled by some shots of Instant Shine and Instant Openness. Or you can substitute IS or IO with CTTM; I have no experience with this, but it sounds like it fits with your problem. If not then use some AMMO instead of CTTM or as an add on to IS, IO, and IJ.

Yeah i know & i fully understand i can’t get a girl to like me there no matter how much pheros i wore 🙂 I’m not keeping my hopes high for the pheros there anyway.

I’m just looking for any help i could get there as i can’t just give up & don’t put effort to it. I’m not that type of guy. My thanks for those great combo recommendations, appreciate that man 😃

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/4 "2008-11-26T21:32:11Z")

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Phatsounds, I’d go with Renny’s recommendation and add some IFM into the mix. If nothing else, she might bring some friends with her.

Does sound to me like you are well and truly in the “friend” box so I wouldn’t be too hopeful but wish you all the luck in the world!

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**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/5 "2008-11-26T21:56:11Z")

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I’d avoid the -none stuff (Ammo & TUTH) in this situation. I don’t think she’s looking for a horney kid. Wear as much A314 as you are comfortable with (maybe three drops). Be THE MAN who is worth more respect than “just friendship.” Then four sprays each IO and IH to focus her on opening romantically to men and deepening her relationship with you. And maybe two drops TAA oil (or the appropriate ammount of Instant Shine) to reduce personal distance and BE THERE too important to ignore.

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/6 "2008-11-26T22:17:52Z")

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> [@diamond](#):
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> Phatsounds, I’d go with Renny’s recommendation and add some IFM into the mix. If nothing else, she might bring some friends with her.
> 
> Does sound to me like you are well and truly in the “friend” box so I wouldn’t be too hopeful but wish you all the luck in the world!

Hmm, i see add IFM to renny recommendation mix, that’s interesting thanks diamond 🙂 Yup i wouldn’t be too hopeful on the pheros much & thanks for wishing me luck there 😃

> [@Warren](#):
>
> I’d avoid the -none stuff (Ammo & TUTH) in this situation. I don’t think she’s looking for a horney kid. Wear as much A314 as you are comfortable with (maybe three drops). Be THE MAN who is worth more respect than “just friendship.” Then four sprays each IO and IH to focus her on opening romantically to men and deepening her relationship with you. And maybe two drops TAA oil (or the appropriate ammount of Instant Shine) to reduce personal distance and BE THERE too important to ignore.

Ok i see your point, excellent combo mix Warren 🙂 So 3 drops of A314( I can go with 3 drops btw not a problem at all)+ 4 sprays of IO & IH plus 2 drops of TAA oil but the problem is i got IO in 2X strength, IH in 4X strength & no TAA oil so what should i replaced TAA oil with & how much sprays should i use for IO & IH there? I will wait for your reply on all this.

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**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/7 "2008-11-27T03:55:50Z")

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Well, going with my original recommendation: _ **Two** _ sprays of the [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) double strength and _ **one** _ spray of the Instant Honesty 4x would be the equivalent. It sounds like you are accustomed to fairly high doeses of A314, IO and IH, already. Maybe my suggestions are on the low side.

As far as the TAA oil, substitute Instant Shine. TAA is the major component of Instant Shine. If you have Instant Shine, you can probably estimate the dosage better than I can. Use a typical amount to reduce personal distance, but nothing excessive.

If things go well and you want something more exotic to experiment with next time, consider P86 as [discussed here](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812). It seems to make people look more attractive to each other.

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/8 "2008-11-27T04:02:22Z")

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2 X [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), 2 X IFM, 2 X TAA oil, 2 X IH, 2 X A314

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/9 "2008-11-27T04:19:26Z")

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Interesting thread.

Phatsounds knows her, but gave little information on her personality. No one has asked for additional information about the lady before giving advice.

Do you think it makes a difference?

wild party girl on her 3rd boyfriend this month

vs.

Never had a boyfriend saving herself for that special guy

And there are thousands of shades of personalities.

I think they make a difference in reactions to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/).

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**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/10 "2008-11-27T06:21:11Z")

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I’m going to ignore the part where you basically said she didn’t seem interested in you before, and focus on the part of you that said you always seem to lose confidence around her.

Lately I’ve been using [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). Whenever I wear it, I don’t **always** (although sometimes for sure) become a jerk, but I do become much more impervious to what others think, and just sort of do what i want more freely. so definitely recomend that.

Instant jerk 2x(importance, indifference)  
Instant gentleman x1(take a little bit of jerk away)  
TAA oil, TAA spray, IShine, whatever you have(make sure she notices and wants to be near you)  
p79 10mcg(make the mix LOUD)

\*\*\*optional addition  
p83 30mcg(if there is any inkling of desire there, she will be more likely to act on it, and so will you)  
p74 50-100mcg(make people beg to be ‘in’ with you)

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 11:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/11 "2008-11-27T11:55:02Z")

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> [@Warren](#):
>
> Well, going with my original recommendation: _ **Two** _ sprays of the Instant Openness double strength and _ **one** _ spray of the Instant Honesty 4x would be the equivalent. It sounds like you are accustomed to fairly high doeses of A314, IO and IH, already. Maybe my suggestions are on the low side.
> 
> As far as the TAA oil, substitute Instant Shine. TAA is the major component of Instant Shine. If you have Instant Shine, you can probably estimate the dosage better than I can. Use a typical amount to reduce personal distance, but nothing excessive.
> 
> If things go well and you want something more exotic to experiment with next time, consider P86 as [discussed here](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812). It seems to make people look more attractive to each other.

Ok i got it & my thanks for explaining to me there 😃 I will use [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to replace TAA oil there, thanks again 🙂 And i will reconsider getting that P86 too due to your link that i have read out 🙂

> [@jamesbonded](#):
>
> 2 X P83, 2 X IFM, 2 X TAA oil, 2 X IH, 2 X A314

Thanks bro for your recommendation there, appreciate your help there 🙂

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 12:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/12 "2008-11-27T12:05:31Z")

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> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#):
>
> Interesting thread.
> 
> Phatsounds knows her, but gave little information on her personality. No one has asked for additional information about the lady before giving advice.
> 
> Do you think it makes a difference?
> 
> wild party girl on her 3rd boyfriend this month
> 
> vs.
> 
> Never had a boyfriend saving herself for that special guy
> 
> And there are thousands of shades of personalities.
> 
> I think they make a difference in reactions to pheromones.

Yup you are right on what you have said there Gone with the Wind 🙂 As for your question, definitely the one who never had a boyfriend saving herself for that special guy 🙂

Ok what else you want to know about this girl with me there? Feel free to ask me there as i’m all ears to listen 🙂

> [@perronec](#):
>
> I’m going to ignore the part where you basically said she didn’t seem interested in you before, and focus on the part of you that said you always seem to lose confidence around her.
> 
> Lately I’ve been using Instant Jerk. Whenever I wear it, I don’t **always** (although sometimes for sure) become a jerk, but I do become much more impervious to what others think, and just sort of do what i want more freely. so definitely recomend that.
> 
> Instant jerk 2x(importance, indifference)  
> Instant gentleman x1(take a little bit of jerk away)  
> TAA oil, TAA spray, IShine, whatever you have(make sure she notices and wants to be near you)  
> p79 10mcg(make the mix LOUD)
> 
> \*\*\*optional addition  
> p83 30mcg(if there is any inkling of desire there, she will be more likely to act on it, and so will you)  
> p74 50-100mcg(make people beg to be ‘in’ with you)

Hmm, thanks for your recommendation there perronec, that is one interesting combo there 🙂 Well i got [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to replace the TAA oil there but i don’t have P79 there so what should i replaced it then?

I got the P93(30MCG) & P74(37.5MCG) that you said there which is an optional addition so can i use those two instead to replace that P79?

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**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 1:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/13 "2008-11-27T13:19:57Z")

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nah, the p79 can be left out. you said this girl is a japanese mix, I havn’t had one good hit with [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) on asian girls, but hear loads of good things on white girls. What is she mixed with? If she is part caucasian, use some p93. see how that goes.

p74 isn’t a p79 replacement, but it is one of my favorites. it might make the jerk seem more social. give it a shot!

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/14 "2008-11-27T14:20:16Z")

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> [@perronec](#):
>
> nah, the p79 can be left out. you said this girl is a japanese mix, I havn’t had one good hit with P93 on asian girls, but hear loads of good things on white girls. What is she mixed with? If she is part caucasian, use some p93. see how that goes.
> 
> p74 isn’t a p79 replacement, but it is one of my favorites. it might make the jerk seem more social. give it a shot!

Oh i see thanks for explaining about P79 plus your info on [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) & P93 🙂 Ok for your question she is mixed with chinese.

Note: Well to all in Pherotalk, unfortunately i can’t go to the special event tonight due my stupid terrible cough which i thought should have recovered by tonight ☹ So i couldn’t go to the event & meet her tonight dammit ☹ About all the combo recommendations that you all have recommended i will select one of your recommendation & test it out next time.

I blamed myself for this as i couldn’t get well to go for the event & meet her there ☹ I tried my best to get the best medication to help me recover from this stupid terrible cough but it still failed tonight ☹ Why Dammit! I’m feeling like sh\*t right now ☹☹☹

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/15 "2008-11-27T14:24:09Z")

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Oh dear Phat, that’s not good.

I notice that Madison has posted in the women’s section that she has used P93 and it cleared her sinuses!! Might be worth trying that to see if helps with the throat?

Otherwise, throw on the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and see if you feel a bit better 😃

Get well soon

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/16 "2008-11-27T14:29:35Z")

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> [@PhatSounds](#):
>
> … definitely the one who never had a boyfriend saving herself for that special guy 🙂
> 
> Ok what else you want to know about this girl with me there? Feel free to ask me there as i’m all ears to listen 🙂

It is crucial to understand her personality. From what I understand she is a high status female who is very selective. Not a girl who will easily give in to impulses. Also she likes you, and you two have already esablished a relationship. If she engages in romantic relationship, it will probably be with the long term in mind.

I suggest you start wearing a314 around her, and have some fun together. You probably don’t need socials, and I would stay away from additional anone at first. Later if she is expressing interest (after a few days) some ammo or tuth might be in order.

If you do care for her, if is probably good to consider carefully whether both your interests are well alligned before initiating anything.

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/17 "2008-11-27T14:32:09Z")

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> [@diamond](#):
>
> Oh dear Phat, that’s not good.
> 
> I notice that Madison has posted in the women’s section that she has used P93 and it cleared her sinuses!! Might be worth trying that to see if helps with the throat?
> 
> Otherwise, throw on the Instant Shine and see if you feel a bit better 😃
> 
> Get well soon

I know it is not good well i guess it is fated like this. Anyway i don’t think any pheros not even [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) can help me there as my condition & mood has drop badly now ☹ I’m feeling more sick right now ☹ Why tonight dammit!

Anyway thanks for your concern there, appreciate it man 🙂

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/18 "2008-11-27T14:42:59Z")

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> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#):
>
> It is crucial to understand her personality. From what I understand she is a high status female who is very selective. Not a girl who will easily give in to impulses. Also she likes you, and you two have already esablished a relationship. If she engages in romantic relationship, it will probably be with the long term in mind.
> 
> I suggest you start wearing a314 around her, and have some fun together. You probably don’t need socials, and I would stay away from additional anone at first. Later if she is expressing interest (after a few days) some ammo or tuth might be in order.
> 
> If you do care for her, if is probably good to consider carefully whether both your interests are well alligned before initiating anything.

Yeah what you say there is right on the dot Gone with the wind 🙂 but i don’t think she is even interested in a romantic relationship. I know her character very well there.

Well yes i was thinking of wearing like what you said there but now i ruined it now as i could not meet her tonight thanks to my sh_t_ss terrible cough ☹

Yes i know what you mean about me caring for her well i will think about it there but what is the point as i can’t meet her tonight ☹

Thanks for the advice given there 🙂

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/19 "2008-11-27T14:46:54Z")

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Sorry i will end my post now due my mood & condition is getting very bad ☹ I have blamed myself for ruining my chance to meet her there & i blame fate as well ☹ PhatSounds Out ☹

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/20 "2008-11-27T15:00:37Z")

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> [@PhatSounds](#):
>
> Sorry i will end my post now due my mood & condition is getting very bad ☹ I have blamed myself for ruining my chance to meet her there & i blame fate as well ☹ PhatSounds Out ☹

Perhaps it is time to lay aside your preconcepions. Planning is useful and part of what makes us human. However, things seldom go per plan. You can get upset about this, but it doesn’t help.

Our military guys have a word to describe this. They say “SNAFU.” It means “Situation normal, all f…d up.”

On the other side, the unpridictable nature of the world means that there will be many opportunities that you never anticipated. The planning (scenario planning) that you have done will then show its value in sometimes unexpected circumstances.

I have a cough today also. Hope you get better soon.

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