# PhatSounds need your help my fellow Pherotalkers! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 26, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308 "2008-11-26T19:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 7
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308/7 "2008-11-27T03:55:50Z")
Well, going with my original recommendation: _ **Two** _ sprays of the [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) double strength and _ **one** _ spray of the Instant Honesty 4x would be the equivalent. It sounds like you are accustomed to fairly high doeses of A314, IO and IH, already. Maybe my suggestions are on the low side. As far as the TAA oil, substitute Instant Shine. TAA is the major component of Instant Shine. If you have Instant Shine, you can probably estimate the dosage better than I can. Use a typical amount to reduce personal distance, but nothing excessive. If things go well and you want something more exotic to experiment with next time, consider P86 as [discussed here](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812). It seems to make people look more attractive to each other. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phatsounds-need-your-help-my-fellow-pherotalkers/23308)._