# pherojack's journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [October 24, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841 "2010-10-24T22:29:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/21 "2010-12-17T12:51:38Z")

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Hey Phero, Jack…whatever you prefer! I am liking your journal! I like your church testing too! I get to see my cousin who is becoming a youth minister this weekend and (I am trying to get in his wedding this summer 😛) he is one of my best friends, been there since birth. He has only been exposed to TUTH actually…Back in my primal Noob days ☹ I was thinking I may try A314 around him this weekend and your report confirmed my gut! Thanks Man! Keep it up!!!

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/22 "2010-12-17T17:11:46Z")

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> [@samuraitea](#):
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> Hey Phero, Jack…whatever you prefer! I am liking your journal! I like your church testing too! I get to see my cousin who is becoming a youth minister this weekend and (I am trying to get in his wedding this summer 😛) he is one of my best friends, been there since birth. He has only been exposed to TUTH actually…Back in my primal Noob days ☹ I was thinking I may try A314 around him this weekend and your report confirmed my gut! Thanks Man! Keep it up!!!

Appreciate it 🙂 This is what’s going to push me to always keep testing and of course reporting 😃

Thanks to everyone.

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**Author:** ![vlal21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vlal21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vlal21)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/23 "2010-12-17T18:28:32Z")

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Hey Jack! I had the Italian woman come over very late with drink on her breath. Booze, Mones, and 10’s = One Wild Night! Life is good! How is IO treating you?

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**Author:** ![SashaV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@SashaV](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SashaV)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/24 "2010-12-17T18:29:56Z")

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Hey dude…

I like the journal…getting my first order in soon and i’m hoping to see the results that your having.

keep it up

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/25 "2010-12-18T06:48:31Z")

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> [@vlal21](#):
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> Hey Jack! I had the Italian woman come over very late with drink on her breath. Booze, Mones, and 10’s = One Wild Night! Life is good! How is IO treating you?

Honestly, my IO bottle is still almost 75-80% full. I found that buffering mixes with IS is better. I might try it soon with Ammo, but I will have to wait till it’s the right setting (Ammo is not suitable anymore for school or church). There is high chance that Ive tried Ammo+ IO at school though, but I don’t remember what happened now but I’m sure it wasn’t a good experience since I would of wrote it down or something. IO by itself seems to actually give me a good aura too when I had a visit to my doctor. OMG! Actually, you just made me realize that I might be coming off too strong even with just IG on, since I might naturally look a little bit intimidating. When I read about getting friend-zoned without a respect ALPHA aspect on your mix, I tend to ALWAYS use IG, MX297 or Ammo in my mixes. May be I should give a try with socials just by themselves or lower the IG to one spray and see the results.

Personally, I’m not a big fan of IO. It makes people way too chatty may be for my needs or just messes up sometimes whatever mix I have. At least that’s what I’ve seen. I would prefer IS and IH over it.

Talking about IO I just remembered a very good pheromone experience that’s actually worth mentioning:  
We had 3 classes out of 4 in the morning free. Of course, I did what you think I would do: smoke weed 😛. I didn’t get EXTREMELY stoned, but enough to make me forget sometimes what I said or what anyone might be telling me (didn’t last this long btw). So this black girl (yet again, one that I have no feeling for neither does she. I wouldn’t consider her attractive but she thinks big of herself), saw me high and I told her to go eat something next to the school. Before we get out of the school, I go to the washroom to do the deed 😃 : as far as i can remember, I think I sprayed 2s IG, 2s IO, 1s Ammo FF22 all to the neck.

First comment I get is you smell really good. I was too high to talk with this girl and I thank God that I had IO on. This girl wouldn’t literally shut up. The stories that she suddenly wanted to tell me came ALL AT ONCE. She would switch from subject to subject talking about stuff that happened to her, some that she already told me before and some that I don’t even want to hear. IO plays for sure on the quantity factor during communication. Also, I think the respect factor from the IG was actually decreased, just like Steve posted before I think. I don’t know if I should attribute that to me being intoxicated at the time, but the respect factor was a little bit less. I don’t remember any hits from other girls as far as I can remember (may be some blatant ones, may be nothing at all, I actually don’t remember sorry 😛 ) but I don’t think it was a bad mix. I saw IO shine at its best and just in the right time. I still would prefer IS over it anytime though if I actually had the choice to pick one of them.

I might be adding IO to my mixes from now on and will note the results.

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/26 "2010-12-18T07:05:05Z")

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#17  
17-Dec-2010  
Friday. Got 6-8/10 stoned with some friend. Bought energy drinks before we go to church. Wasn’t physically drained. My brother sprayed 3s IS1x to the neck and 1s IS1x to his hair. He had a very good aura and I could tell that he was actually “shinning”!. We even have this teacher at church that when he always sees him he calls him a superstar and always compliments his hair and his looks (when it’s been always the same lol). He likes the IS by itself very much.  
For myself, that’s what I applied, all to the neck:  
3s P83 (30 mcg total), 2s IG, 2s IS 1x and 2s IH to-go 1x.  
We go to church and we get disappointed: there was almost NO ONE there. No girls, almost no guys. It was really empty. My close church friend gets so aggressive when I have my pheros on (my theory is: he gets confident and so happy from my mix that he wants to hit someone? 😃 Lol I don’t have any idea). A lot of people seem to give me respect but it seems off as I was coming way too strong or ALPHA I think. When I look at any girl they would show blatant IOIs. Didn’t have any chance to make any approach. Girl that was touching me on purpose before during the meeting didn’t seem to act any interested today AT ALL. It was like I wasn’t there (may be because I poked her by accident on facebook and we never actually talked?). Honestly, nothing much to report on since I felt like it was a waste of mones since almost no one was here.

Another report: My dad is a pharmacist. Before he goes to work, I sprayed 2-3s [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/), and 2s IH to-go all to the neck. A lady gave him a hug and the co-workers that were working with him told him they want him to get fixed in this place (he works in a different pharmacy everyday). I sprayed everything on a rush on him and he didn’t take a shower the night before and there wasn’t a lot of customers but I thought what he told me was interesting. He also went about 30-40 minutes late but the owner didn’t seem to get pissed at all ( may be because he brought him food too ).

Going to the movies and will be chilling at a mall (very low-class area btw and no offence to anybody, but it’s mostly african-americans or black in general) and with some guy friends tomorrow and I haven’t decided what I should put (I’m thinking Ammo+IO but I think they will kill me ☹ They need IG or MX297 to get off me). Any suggestions?

Btw: I’m actually starting to stop being a hypocrite by suggesting to every newbie to try the sweet spot guide when me myself I’m not doing it. I don’t know a good place to actually test everything by itself since school people seem to act more friendly and closely when I don’t have anything on. I’m serious whenever I have any mones on, they seem to take a distance.

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**Author:** ![vlal21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vlal21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vlal21)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/27 "2010-12-18T17:03:02Z")

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> [@PheroJack](#):
>
> #17  
> 17-Dec-2010  
> Friday. Got 6-8/10 stoned with some friend. Bought energy drinks before we go to church. Wasn’t physically drained. My brother sprayed 3s IS1x to the neck and 1s IS1x to his hair. He had a very good aura and I could tell that he was actually “shinning”!. We even have this teacher at church that when he always sees him he calls him a superstar and always compliments his hair and his looks (when it’s been always the same lol). He likes the IS by itself very much.  
> For myself, that’s what I applied, all to the neck:  
> 3s P83 (30 mcg total), 2s IG, 2s IS 1x and 2s IH to-go 1x.  
> We go to church and we get disappointed: there was almost NO ONE there. No girls, almost no guys. It was really empty. My close church friend gets so aggressive when I have my pheros on (my theory is: he gets confident and so happy from my mix that he wants to hit someone? 😃 Lol I don’t have any idea). A lot of people seem to give me respect but it seems off as I was coming way too strong or ALPHA I think. When I look at any girl they would show blatant IOIs. Didn’t have any chance to make any approach. Girl that was touching me on purpose before during the meeting didn’t seem to act any interested today AT ALL. It was like I wasn’t there (may be because I poked her by accident on facebook and we never actually talked?). Honestly, nothing much to report on since I felt like it was a waste of mones since almost no one was here.
> 
> Another report: My dad is a pharmacist. Before he goes to work, I sprayed 2-3s MX297, and 2s IH to-go all to the neck. A lady gave him a hug and the co-workers that were working with him told him they want him to get fixed in this place (he works in a different pharmacy everyday). I sprayed everything on a rush on him and he didn’t take a shower the night before and there wasn’t a lot of customers but I thought what he told me was interesting. He also went about 30-40 minutes late but the owner didn’t seem to get pissed at all ( may be because he brought him food too ).
> 
> Going to the movies and will be chilling at a mall (very low-class area btw and no offence to anybody, but it’s mostly african-americans or black in general) and with some guy friends tomorrow and I haven’t decided what I should put (I’m thinking Ammo+IO but I think they will kill me ☹ They need IG or MX297 to get off me). Any suggestions?
> 
> Btw: I’m actually starting to stop being a hypocrite by suggesting to every newbie to try the sweet spot guide when me myself I’m not doing it. I don’t know a good place to actually test everything by itself since school people seem to act more friendly and closely when I don’t have anything on. I’m serious whenever I have any mones on, they seem to take a distance.

I wouldn’t try ammo may get you into some trouble dude. I’m black and take no offence. I don’t go to those areas myself either. Nothing more hated by black people then an educated black person. Black women hated with a passion even before I put on moans. Now they ghost me which I like. Try [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/). You will come off as cool and may gain some street credit.

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 5:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/28 "2010-12-19T05:28:25Z")

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#18  
18-Dec-2010  
2s IO 1x, 2-3s IS 1x all to the neck.  
Self-effects were just great. Very happy and my mood is uplifted. After that nuthing much to report on really. But again I wouldn’t expect any blatant hits with just socials.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/29 "2010-12-19T07:38:19Z")

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> [@PheroJack](#):
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> #18  
> 18-Dec-2010  
> 2s IO 1x, 2-3s IS 1x all to the neck.  
> Self-effects were just great. Very happy and my mood is uplifted. After that nuthing much to report on really. But again I wouldn’t expect any blatant hits with just socials.

Ok, well, I wanted to insert that TAA / IS has given me some blatant sexually inclined interest and hits… this is at a 4 x IS at least…

I talk about it here:

> [@Commercial line, MX and P's mixed to create...CHAOS!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/commercial-line-mx-and-ps-mixed-to-create-chaos/43111):
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> I wanted this thread to post those mixes or stand alone tests of the mones that didn’t quite fit in any of my other threads. Well, I wanted to start out with the funky results of TAA… I was feeling a bit daring one afternoon and decided I’ll try TAA with 4 sprays, by its lonesome. However, I thought, well, this isn’t very DARING, so I decide to go NUCULAR (As Bush would say…) and applied a total of 10 SPRAYS. The mu of the bottle is 40. A few on the throat/upper chest a couple on both sides…

These socials can be real good at bringing down inhibitions…

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/30 "2010-12-20T04:15:56Z")

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#19  
19-Dec-2010  
Went to a CROWDED mid-to-high class mall today with my family to buy some clothes.  
I’m also very sick. Didn’t take a shower from last night too.  
Applied 2s P83, 2-3s [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) and 2s IS2x all to the neck.

No BLATANT HITS but ALMOST everyone seems to give me eye contact. Some asian girls were really interested but due to the fact my parents being there, it was kinda messed up ☹. Nothing special since I didn’t make any interactions with someone (a.k.a girls) in my age but there was a VIP respect given to me in stores. A security guard couldn’t hold eye contact with me when passing me too.. Thought that might of been weird or may be I’m just tripping.

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**Author:** ![vlal21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vlal21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vlal21)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/31 "2010-12-21T20:11:12Z")

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> [@PheroJack](#):
>
> #19  
> 19-Dec-2010  
> Went to a CROWDED mid-to-high class mall today with my family to buy some clothes.  
> I’m also very sick. Didn’t take a shower from last night too.  
> Applied 2s P83, 2-3s MX297 and 2s IS2x all to the neck.
> 
> No BLATANT HITS but ALMOST everyone seems to give me eye contact. Some asian girls were really interested but due to the fact my parents being there, it was kinda messed up ☹. Nothing special since I didn’t make any interactions with someone (a.k.a girls) in my age but there was a VIP respect given to me in stores. A security guard couldn’t hold eye contact with me when passing me too.. Thought that might of been weird or may be I’m just tripping.

In a mall with parents equals EPIC mones waste. With the mones and the knowledge you have acquired you should be getting laid a lot or at lest getting BJ’s. Up your game VIP. The force is strong in you. Keep posting

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/32 "2010-12-21T21:03:12Z")

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> [@vlal21](#):
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> In a mall with parents equals EPIC mones waste. With the mones and the knowledge you have acquired you should be getting laid a lot or at lest getting BJ’s. Up your game VIP. The force is strong in you. Keep posting

Thanks for the words of encouragement man. I feel like since school started I’m starting to loose my “social vibe”. I think I need to work on myself a little more or something. I even know I should be getting more (don’t want to sound like I have IJ on or something lol) but it’s just that all the girls that I’m interacting with are: catholic school girls and church girls. And there are some that I know that I could take it to a next level with but with strict parents and INTENSE last year of school, I’m actually sometimes just unable to even hang out with my best friends.  
I just can’t wait for university!! My goal right now is to find the “perfect” mixes so when I go to uni I go BIG!!

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**Author:** ![vlal21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vlal21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vlal21)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/33 "2010-12-22T16:15:48Z")

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> [@PheroJack](#):
>
> Thanks for the words of encouragement man. I feel like since school started I’m starting to loose my “social vibe”. I think I need to work on myself a little more or something. I even know I should be getting more (don’t want to sound like I have IJ on or something lol) but it’s just that all the girls that I’m interacting with are: catholic school girls and church girls. And there are some that I know that I could take it to a next level with but with strict parents and INTENSE last year of school, I’m actually sometimes just unable to even hang out with my best friends.  
> I just can’t wait for university!! My goal right now is to find the “perfect” mixes so when I go to uni I go BIG!!

Dude when I went to school catholic school girls were the biggest sluts. Maybe things have changed doing my time as I will be 30 soon. I went Catholic myself from 1st to 8th grade and I got laid. Mind you not by the best looking girls but some really decent ones. Other girls outside of my school didn’t even know I existed. The ones that knew I existed couldn’t even remember my name they would just hey say so & so brother is blah home.

Imagine your much younger sister being more popular at your school then you are. Now that is INTENSE lol. Go get you some.

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**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/34 "2010-12-24T04:06:16Z")

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> [@vlal21](#):
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> In a mall with parents equals EPIC mones waste. With the mones and the knowledge you have acquired you should be getting laid a lot or at lest getting BJ’s. Up your game VIP. The force is strong in you. Keep posting

I really would not worry about it, to quote from someone who taught me alot here.

> [@got laid](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-laid/35466/8):
>
> A lot of sex isn’t glamorous… a lot of getting laid is discovering just how unglamorous sex can be…

If there is not a better piece of advise here on the forum I would like to see it. The quality of the women you lay should far outweigh the quantity.

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**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/35 "2010-12-24T20:11:46Z")

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> [@PheroJack](#):
>
> Thanks for the words of encouragement man. I feel like since school started I’m starting to loose my “social vibe”. I think I need to work on myself a little more or something. I even know I should be getting more (don’t want to sound like I have IJ on or something lol) but it’s just that all the girls that I’m interacting with are: catholic school girls and church girls. And there are some that I know that I could take it to a next level with but with strict parents and INTENSE last year of school, I’m actually sometimes just unable to even hang out with my best friends.  
> I just can’t wait for university!! My goal right now is to find the “perfect” mixes so when I go to uni I go BIG!!

lol some of the craziest, sluttiest girls I know are the “catholic” or “Christian” girls. College is going to be fun for you dude, but keep up your swag in HS, I so wish I knew about mones at your age, I would be a completely different me, a head of my time 😛. I am just passing time too dude, don’t worry, stay strong, up and you’ll be great! I love your journal though, a ton of fun!

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/36 "2010-12-25T07:14:07Z")

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#20  
25-Dec-2010  
Really disappointing friday.. 2s IG, 1s IO 1x, 1s IS2x, 10 mcg [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) all to the neck.  
Went to church sober. I knew I was projecting a nice cool vibe. Guys were giving me respect right and left. Not going into details for that.. Girls: I see A LOT of interest.. but the setting is really not friendly.. It’s just so awkward if I go sit with some girls talking… or just come right in middle of conversation like that. My “wingman” wasn’t here today, and he was to facilitate A LOT my approaches. I think I see I got to mention this too: I think I naturally possess some of the qualities to make me considered a “good looking” guy. I think giving a lot of “alpha” vibe with my pheros are making girls see me as an unapproachable 8 or for some may be 10.I just see that through observations. some older girl said to a guy when i was hanging out with them that “i’m cute”. Okay, let me get that across: I might be good looking but i’m not cute.. for younger girls i think the attraction is there but reacting upon it at a church like mine is hard. i feel also like already a lot of people in church know about my weed habit and i’m sure that might be a turn off for many girls especially.. i’ve made another contact with this another girl.. she was touching me a lot and i see it… she was (just like any other girl i meet and think she’s interested) playing with another university older “fun” dude… she would ask about a couple things about me but then change her mind to something else.. mind you i was buzzed (had a small ass sesh @ church) and doin and sayin some stupid shit at that time… i’m just banning any weed smoking before going/or during church..  
what this girl told me and really shocked me though, she asked me if i ever come to church.. honey.. i almost come every friday it’s been like a year… that makes me think they don’t actually know the “new” me.. i’m just blabering right now and i don’t know what to say.. i just had not a very good night.. dont like when there aren’t any approaches like that.. feels awkward and a waste of pheros.. my situation is so fuked with these girls at church im just givin up.. they need to get to know me by doing some activities together.. anything i mean that involves and facilitates more approachability..  
end of this entry for now lmao.

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**Author:** ![vlal21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vlal21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vlal21)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/37 "2010-12-26T15:33:44Z")

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> [@PheroJack](#):
>
> #20  
> 25-Dec-2010  
> Really disappointing friday.. 2s IG, 1s IO 1x, 1s IS2x, 10 mcg P83 all to the neck.  
> Went to church sober. I knew I was projecting a nice cool vibe. Guys were giving me respect right and left. Not going into details for that.. Girls: I see A LOT of interest.. but the setting is really not friendly.. It’s just so awkward if I go sit with some girls talking… or just come right in middle of conversation like that. My “wingman” wasn’t here today, and he was to facilitate A LOT my approaches. I think I see I got to mention this too: I think I naturally possess some of the qualities to make me considered a “good looking” guy. I think giving a lot of “alpha” vibe with my pheros are making girls see me as an unapproachable 8 or for some may be 10.I just see that through observations. some older girl said to a guy when i was hanging out with them that “i’m cute”. Okay, let me get that across: I might be good looking but i’m not cute.. for younger girls i think the attraction is there but reacting upon it at a church like mine is hard. i feel also like already a lot of people in church know about my weed habit and i’m sure that might be a turn off for many girls especially.. i’ve made another contact with this another girl.. she was touching me a lot and i see it… she was (just like any other girl i meet and think she’s interested) playing with another university older “fun” dude… she would ask about a couple things about me but then change her mind to something else.. mind you i was buzzed (had a small ass sesh @ church) and doin and sayin some stupid shit at that time… i’m just banning any weed smoking before going/or during church..  
> what this girl told me and really shocked me though, she asked me if i ever come to church.. honey.. i almost come every friday it’s been like a year… that makes me think they don’t actually know the “new” me.. i’m just blabering right now and i don’t know what to say.. i just had not a very good night.. dont like when there aren’t any approaches like that.. feels awkward and a waste of pheros.. my situation is so fuked with these girls at church im just givin up.. they need to get to know me by doing some activities together.. anything i mean that involves and facilitates more approachability..  
> end of this entry for now lmao.

Dude smoking that stuff will ruin your ambitions. No one likes a burn out

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Of course vial. Although sometimes I know exactly what to say when I’m fairly burn-out..  
Another thing I wanted to mention: People that seem to acknowledge more my presence and feel very friendly with me are those who got exposed closer to my physical body and been around my phero clouds. Others (to be specific, people who already know you) won’t fight their ways to befriend you or to give you another chance since their minds aren’t sure how you could project a “cool” and “friendly” vibe when you never used to before.  
Just wanted to add that for future references.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/39 "2010-12-27T04:27:25Z")

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#21  
26-Dec-2010  
Sunday. Weather FREEZING cold. Applied 1s IG, 1s IO1x, 1 - 1.5s of IS 1x, all to the neck before I leave the house and bus it to church.  
Since a lot of people stated that [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) = sex, I decided to not use it this time at church.  
I didn’t smoke. There was a party dinner tonight at church. Honestly, I could count 10 hits from guys giving my VIP respect. It was something I’ve never seen before. VIP respect for sure. Some old guy just started talking with me about random stuff I don’t even know about 😃. So here comes to best part: the ladies 😃. There was a cute younger girl that I sat next to. That girl made several kino with me throughout the night (clean kino though, don’t get twisted 😉 ). She even started hitting my arm by the end :O. I could see that she’s really interested. Yet, again, I forgot to take the number!!! 😢 I wanna tear myself apart 😃. Mostly, a lot of hits too from other girls but nothing major like this girl.  
This girl doesn’t come often to our church either, so she doesn’t have any pre-“image” about me. I think that’s why it worked very well. I was feeling very confident although I find myself really funny with guys but not so funny around girls. _Note to myself: Should stop saying a lot of inside jokes in front of strangers_. Man.. during summer, I feel like my game was at a better level than this.. I think socializing is just a skill, the more you practice the better you are at it.

Older parents gave me a lot of respect too. Honestly, this is just perfect for church, although I feel like I lack some IH. I don’t know if IG, IS, IO, IH would be too buffered at one spray each. Any input??

Great night none the less! IG, IS and IO are the most suitable products for church that’s for sure. Will have to make sure to ease it down on the IG sprays and NO AMMO or P83.  
If I buy a314-a spray and use it at 1 spray buffered with some IS, IO and IH, will that work good? Or I’m going to appear more serious and less approachable?

My brother’s reports: 3s IS1x to the neck, 1s IS1x to his hair. He also said, as usual, that this night is the night he approached most girls. He also said he got a lot of IOIs from certain girls, including lot of eye-contact. Overall, great night for both of us! 🙂

Going to a 3 day trip with church tomorrow and it will be mostly guys only. Not planing on bringing any mones. What do you guys think?

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherojacks-journal/42841/40 "2010-12-27T05:18:27Z")

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> [@PheroJack](#):
>
> #21  
> 26-Dec-2010  
> Sunday. Weather FREEZING cold. Applied 1s IG, 1s IO1x, 1 - 1.5s of IS 1x, all to the neck before I leave the house and bus it to church.  
> Since a lot of people stated that P83 = sex, I decided to not use it this time at church.  
> I didn’t smoke. There was a party dinner tonight at church. Honestly, I could count 10 hits from guys giving my VIP respect. It was something I’ve never seen before. VIP respect for sure. Some old guy just started talking with me about random stuff I don’t even know about 😃. So here comes to best part: the ladies 😃. There was a cute younger girl that I sat next to. That girl made several kino with me throughout the night (clean kino though, don’t get twisted 😉 ). She even started hitting my arm by the end :O. I could see that she’s really interested. Yet, again, I forgot to take the number!!! 😢 I wanna tear myself apart 😃. Mostly, a lot of hits too from other girls but nothing major like this girl.  
> This girl doesn’t come often to our church either, so she doesn’t have any pre-“image” about me. I think that’s why it worked very well. I was feeling very confident although I find myself really funny with guys but not so funny around girls. _Note to myself: Should stop saying a lot of inside jokes in front of strangers_. Man.. during summer, I feel like my game was at a better level than this.. I think socializing is just a skill, the more you practice the better you are at it.
> 
> Older parents gave me a lot of respect too. Honestly, this is just perfect for church, although I feel like I lack some IH. I don’t know if IG, IS, IO, IH would be too buffered at one spray each. Any input??
> 
> Great night none the less! IG, IS and IO are the most suitable products for church that’s for sure. Will have to make sure to ease it down on the IG sprays and NO AMMO or P83.  
> If I buy a314-a spray and use it at 1 spray buffered with some IS, IO and IH, will that work good? Or I’m going to appear more serious and less approachable?
> 
> My brother’s reports: 3s IS1x to the neck, 1s IS1x to his hair. He also said, as usual, that this night is the night he approached most girls. He also said he got a lot of IOIs from certain girls, including lot of eye-contact. Overall, great night for both of us! 🙂
> 
> Going to a 3 day trip with church tomorrow and it will be mostly guys only. Not planing on bringing any mones. What do you guys think?

Why don’t you try some IG and IS with the guys?

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