# Pheromone Advantage **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 12, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409 "2008-07-12T17:59:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Evantarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4491bb/32.png) [@Evantarin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evantarin)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/1 "2008-07-12T17:59:13Z")
Anyone used this product yet? Dr. Amend’s Pheromone Advantage They are claiming 4 [pheromones](https://a314.com/), unscented and an oil & alcohol base. 3x 1 oz. bottles for $79.99 I’m rather curious as that is ALOT of product for the price. This is the first time I’ve seen this product and I was always under the impression that pheromones were expensive to manufacture, so I’m a bit suspicious about their pricing. ---
**Author:** ![SoulCreator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulcreator/32/236_2.png) [@SoulCreator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulCreator)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/2 "2008-07-12T20:45:31Z")
I may be wrong about this but old Doc Amend doesn’t look like he picks up too many chicks at his age… I’d be weary of buying any of his products until I hear some unbiased reactions to his “pheromone advantage”. Especially since I don’t see listed anywhere on the site precisely which pheromones are contained in this product. ---
**Author:** ![pookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@pookie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pookie)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/3 "2008-11-11T19:11:22Z")
> [@Evantarin](#): > > Anyone used this product yet? > Dr. Amend’s Pheromone Advantage > > They are claiming 4 pheromones, unscented and an oil & alcohol base. 3x 1 oz. bottles for $79.99 > > I’m rather curious as that is ALOT of product for the price. This is the first time I’ve seen this product and I was always under the impression that pheromones were expensive to manufacture, so I’m a bit suspicious about their pricing. I used it. I am a physician, and bought it out of curiosity more than anything else–my wife and I are quite satisfied, but I was wondering if it would have any effect. I used some about 2 weeks ago, and did not notice anything–I put some on me before I went to bed. I tried it again last night. My wife awoke very “cuddly,” and when she hugged me in the bathroom after we’d both woken up, she pointed to the exact spot on my neck where I’d put the oil and said “you smell like sex right there.” Beginning this afternoon, I have received a steady stream of steaming, sex-related text messages from her; she is absolutely freaking out wanting me to come home for a ‘nooner.’ My wife had a huge libido–like this–when we dated, but I can tell you she hasn’t had a day like this in nearly 20 years. We are both 44 years old. I’d say the stuff is worth the money. I don’t work for Dr. Amend or have any interest in the company. **[Typical Forum SPAM:** IP is from same geographic area as product. Joined soon after thread was started to comment exclusively on 1 product, and not to participate in a manner typical of a real forum user. Has not returned for months, logged in simply to post this one message. Typical behavioral pattern of companies which monitor forums for mentions of their products, and then pretend to be normal people or objective third parties. Since they did not read or participate other topics, they likely use “Google Alerts” function to make them aware of specific blog and forum posts about their product. We left this up so you can see the mechanics of how spammers operate, and how they post fake testimonials against FTC regulations.**]** ---
**Author:** ![Lookin4Some65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@Lookin4Some65](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lookin4Some65)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/4 "2008-12-16T18:41:27Z")
Just got some this afternoon. The product contains: DPG, Fragance, SD40 ALC, 5 Alpha-Androst-16en-3-One, 16 (Alpha) Androsten-3-One, 3-Keto-5 Alpha, 16-Androstene, Androstenone. I’ll post something when I get around to trying it. ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/5 "2008-12-16T19:52:24Z")
Two things that are really interesting: 1. unscented a big plus in my book, so I can easily apply my own cologne 2. that price is really good for the value which leads me to believe are they really using quality pheros? sounds too good to be true.. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/6 "2008-12-16T20:04:39Z")
> [@SoulCreator](#): > > I may be wrong about this but old Doc Amend doesn’t look like he picks up too many chicks at his age… Not a logical reason to not buy the product. If he was a fox would he be any more credible? I didn’t think so. Incidentally, you’d be surprised how much old guys get laid. I saw something on CNN about VD being outta control in retirement communities. Apparently grandpa is really active and doesn’t practice safe sex. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/7 "2008-12-16T20:25:28Z")
I’ll buy some if denec and Gegogi buy some and say it is worth it. I trust their judgment LOL. ---
**Author:** ![SoulCreator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulcreator/32/236_2.png) [@SoulCreator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulCreator)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/8 "2008-12-17T00:08:07Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Not a logical reason to not buy the product. If he was a fox would he be any more credible? I didn’t think so. > > Incidentally, you’d be surprised how much old guys get laid. I saw something on CNN about VD being outta control in retirement communities. Apparently grandpa is really active and doesn’t practice safe sex. It wasn’t my intention to say that product didn’t work because he was too old, only that I wonder how much personal testing he could do with his own [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) at his age. Which would likely place him at a certain disadvantage when trying to come up with the proper pheromone ratios. …Although now that I think about it, if he did indeed test and perfect his formula based on his own personal experiences with his product, it _may_ be a reason why a younger guy could potentially might not have too much success with his product. (As natural pheromone output changes with age.) But like I said I’d be really curious to see some honest reactions on his product. If the feedback sounds good hey who knows I might just buy a bottle myself one of these days… ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/9 "2008-12-17T03:00:14Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > I’ll buy some if denec and Gegogi buy some and say it is worth it. I trust their judgment LOL. i did some googling and could not find much about it or any other valid reviews it sounds interesting but i still have so many other pheros, it not worth getting right now ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/10 "2009-04-24T00:55:18Z")
sorry to see this thread slowed down. Dr. Amends was the first product that attracted me before I found Androtics because it’s so cheap. I’ve already ordered a bottle which should arrive tomorrow or day after. Price is a big factor for me being a student and all and this stuff seems cheap enough to use everyday instead of every now and then. So ya i’ll start testing it while i wait for my androtics products. Has anyone done any controlled experiments to try pheromones? I always feel a lil sceptical when i hear field reports of someone saying they walked out and had three hits. There’s just too many factors to that…putting gel in your hair, wearing an interesting shirt can get you that. I mean if you start acting up at a starbucks line you’ll get a lot more than 3 hits but it won’t have anything to do with what you’re wearing. Also reports of men going out with a female is also skeptical to me, as any pua can tell you that having a woman on your shoulder makes you ten times more attractive than walking around by yourself and i’ve experienced this first hand. I think an ideal test would be to go to the same place, dress the same, appraoch the same way, say the same things and see what happens. This way you minimize any situational variables to the best of your abilities. Has anyone done anything like this? ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/11 "2009-04-24T01:23:15Z")
> [@meow333x](#): > > Has anyone done any controlled experiments to try pheromones? Check out the “Studies and Abstracts” thread here. Also Love-Scent and James Kohl’s site Pheromones com have sections with scientific papers. James is a poster here. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/12 "2009-04-24T03:17:37Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Check out the “Studies and Abstracts” thread here. Also Love-Scent and James Kohl’s site Pheromones com have sections with scientific papers. James is a poster here. ya i saw that report on speed dating..prolly the first legitimate study in my opinion. the three main problems i’ve noticed with [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) testing are: 1. it’s too freaking labaratory style. you know when they blindfold women and make them smell armpits. all that tests is her ability to smell not her reaction to the person. 2. situational interference. “i went out with my buddies and women started to notice me” how do you repeat this? how do you know it’s the pheromone instead of your buddies? 3. sample size. “i talked to my coworker and didn’t notice a difference” Best puas ive met had like a 10-20% success rate. interacting with a few people isn’t going to tell you squat. ---
**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/13 "2009-04-24T06:07:48Z")
10-20% the best PUA’s? That seems like quite a low success rate… by odds alone a 20% success rate is not anything out of the ordinary. How are you defining this success? ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/14 "2009-04-24T13:29:39Z")
> [@dapg01](#): > > 10-20% the best PUA’s? That seems like quite a low success rate… by odds alone a 20% success rate is not anything out of the ordinary. How are you defining this success? you’re right i should have been more specific, there’s a lot of variables to it. by success i meant going all the way with cold appraoches during the day…basically the hardest scenario. in that definition, 20% is pretty amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/15 "2009-04-24T13:31:43Z")
Attraction, seduction, and relating to people is waaaaaaay too subjective to be easily studied under scientific conditions…except for pathological processes, which tend to be “stereotypical”. Just my 2 cents from back in the days when I was involved in research, methodology, and then therapy…including families systems therapy…which attempts to observe human interactions under controlled conditions and figure out what’s going on. I wouldn’t hold my breath for any real, in-depth, useful research on the matter because of the enormous methodological problems and controversial validity issues in interpreting body language. The real way to figure this issue out is directly…through experience. Subjective, yes. But that is the most appropriate way to address the issue because of how varied the way people interact is. Start out by sensitizing yourself to “indicators of interest”. Sure, there are lists of what to look for. They are about as useful as a spanish textbook in teaching you how to learn to speak spanish…supplemental…at best. What I did (do…because its a continuing process) is a body language elicitation exercise. For an extended period of time (couple weeks etc.), everywhere I go, I get in the habit of looking a woman directly in the eyes, as I pass her and holding her gaze as I note her reaction. Quickly, you will develop the ability to tell who is attracted to you, who is not, and who is indifferent. Looking a woman in the eyes is a provocative stimulus. She will display behaviors she normally suppresses, which is the secret to this technique. Later on, what you will notice are “flashes” of these same behaviors as women display them and then suppress them in your presence…but that’s another issue. Now, after you’ve figured this out. I mean really figured it out because most guys love to make up excuses for not doing stuff…like, “I can already do that”…which means, uhh, no they can’t. And they never will because they are making excuses rather than doing what it takes to get the job done. Now…add some pheromones and repeat. Notice the increase in frequency and intensity of IOI’s. Yes…it’s subjective. It is also quite dramatic to the man who has trained himself to know what to look for. Later, comes learning how to exploit these behaviors as opportunities. After awhile, it becomes shocking how oblivious people are, in general. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/16 "2009-04-24T13:56:27Z")
> [@Bonecrkr](#): > > Attraction, seduction, and relating to people is waaaaaaay too subjective to be easily studied under scientific conditions…except for pathological processes, which tend to be “stereotypical”. > > Just my 2 cents from back in the days when I was involved in research, methodology, and then therapy…including families systems therapy…which attempts to observe human interactions under controlled conditions and figure out what’s going on. > > I wouldn’t hold my breath for any real, in-depth, useful research on the matter because of the enormous methodological problems and controversial validity issues in interpreting body language. > > The real way to figure this issue out is directly…through experience. Subjective, yes. But that is the most appropriate way to address the issue because of how varied the way people interact is. Start out by sensitizing yourself to “indicators of interest”. Sure, there are lists of what to look for. They are about as useful as a spanish textbook in teaching you how to learn to speak spanish…supplemental…at best. > > What I did (do…because its a continuing process) is a body language elicitation exercise. For an extended period of time (couple weeks etc.), everywhere I go, I get in the habit of looking a woman directly in the eyes, as I pass her and holding her gaze as I note her reaction. Quickly, you will develop the ability to tell who is attracted to you, who is not, and who is indifferent. Looking a woman in the eyes is a provocative stimulus. She will display behaviors she normally suppresses, which is the secret to this technique. Later on, what you will notice are “flashes” of these same behaviors as women display them and then suppress them in your presence…but that’s another issue. > > Now, after you’ve figured this out. I mean really figured it out because most guys love to make up excuses for not doing stuff…like, “I can already do that”…which means, uhh, no they can’t. And they never will because they are making excuses rather than doing what it takes to get the job done. Now…add some pheromones and repeat. > > Notice the increase in frequency and intensity of IOI’s. Yes…it’s subjective. It is also quite dramatic to the man who has trained himself to know what to look for. Later, comes learning how to exploit these behaviors as opportunities. > > After awhile, it becomes shocking how oblivious people are, in general. ooo lovely post. you’re refering to “natural game”. you’re account is very similar to what i’m doing right now actually. I keep a detailed log of every approach i do..having a smartphone really helps on this since i can type it down immediately afterwards. I have a baseline of about 200 appraoches to compare my pheromone approaches with, as soon as i get my hands on some which will hopefully be today. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/17 "2009-04-24T19:16:35Z")
> [@meow333x](#): > > ya i saw that report on speed dating..prolly the first legitimate study in my opinion. the three main problems i’ve noticed with pheromone testing are: > > 1. it’s too freaking labaratory style. you know when they blindfold women and make them smell armpits. all that tests is her ability to smell not her reaction to the person. Well, ya, they were _laboratory_ studies. There are more than “speed dating”, there are studies that showed hormone level changes. _Exactly_ what you asked for, remember “Has anyone done any _controlled experiments_ to try pheromones?”?.😃 ---
**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/18 "2009-04-24T20:55:28Z")
Cold approaches during the day that lead to sex is definitely shooting very high (nothing wrong with that though 🙂), then 20% is not bad at all. During the day I don’t usually try to go for that, I consider it a success if you get a date from a day approach. Number closing is tricky in my opinion because it doesn’t necessarily guarantee you you’ll see the girl again, but it definitely does constitute some kind of success in my book. One night stands I usually leave (or left, now I’m with an ltr) for parties and clubs Parties are in my opinion the most optimal situation since they are the easiest to find one night stands in. For that reason my definition of a successful pick up might be a bit different. I gotta tell you, pheromones probably won’t change your possibilities of getting a girl to sleep with you too much. Game (whether natural or learned) is a much stronger factor in that case. Pheromones will help you enhance attractiveness, make girls even a bit hornier, but last minute resistance will not be up to the pheromones, it will be up to you! I definitely feel like you’ll find that with pheromones the whole process will run even smoother, but I’m curious to see what you conclude. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/19 "2009-04-25T00:19:37Z")
> [@dapg01](#): > > Cold approaches during the day that lead to sex is definitely shooting very high (nothing wrong with that though 🙂), then 20% is not bad at all. During the day I don’t usually try to go for that, I consider it a success if you get a date from a day approach. Number closing is tricky in my opinion because it doesn’t necessarily guarantee you you’ll see the girl again, but it definitely does constitute some kind of success in my book. > One night stands I usually leave (or left, now I’m with an ltr) for parties and clubs Parties are in my opinion the most optimal situation since they are the easiest to find one night stands in. For that reason my definition of a successful pick up might be a bit different. > > I gotta tell you, pheromones probably won’t change your possibilities of getting a girl to sleep with you too much. Game (whether natural or learned) is a much stronger factor in that case. Pheromones will help you enhance attractiveness, make girls even a bit hornier, but last minute resistance will not be up to the pheromones, it will be up to you! > > I definitely feel like you’ll find that with pheromones the whole process will run even smoother, but I’m curious to see what you conclude. oh god no, im not expecting anything from day approaches…but its the perfect grounds for pheromone testing…opportunities every day, and no alcohol…perfect testing conditions. once the attraction is there and im on a date, i’ve got smooth sailing from then on…its getting that attraction that’s the problem for me. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409/20 "2009-04-25T01:11:48Z")
ok, so it hasn’t arrived yet (the pheromone advantage). ordered it tuesday mornin, nothing yet. their website doesn’t have a forum but has live help, been on it for 30 mins no response…so ya Dr. Amend’s online support sucks [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advantage/15409.md?page=2)