# Pheromone advice for teenage males

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 6, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437 "2010-09-06T18:07:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/1 "2010-09-06T18:07:26Z")

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First off, when it comes to using pheromones most here myself included would rather you waited until your square dancing hormones have settled down (around the age of 19-21) Why? we have no F’n clue how this stuff might effect you over the long term. There are various risks involved.

Neurotransmitters: Certain pheromones have been reported to cause “phero crash” not unlike a sugar or caffeine crash. Tiredness, lethargy etc. These are signals that activate portions of the brain that may not be used to being stimulated so strongly as they are when wearing a dose of artificial mones. This stimulation can deplete the brain of neurotransmitters leading to feelings of fatigue…we just don’t know for sure how this will work on a teenager who’s whole body including the brain chemistry are going through massive changes.

Likewise at your age the fluctuating hormones you experience naturally can cause mood changes that border on a damn split personality disorder. Think I’m exaggerating? Do you act the same way you did 2 years ago? probably not, will you act the same way 2 years from now? Not likely. I watched my brother go from being a super hyper talkative chatterbox as a little kid to a brooding rebellious long haired skater in just under a year, now a couple of years later he’s a cocky confident young man. There’s no telling how the neural stimulation of artificial pheromones on him would have effected his personality during that changing phase. He’d get pretty moody and depressed and a heavy dose of mones could have possibly made it worse…possibly self destructive.

Hormone feedback loop. When a body builder or pro athlete takes steroids his body gets a signal that he has enough testosterone (your main sexual and muscle building hormone) and the brain orders the balls to shut down production. Along the same lines, since most pheromones are metabolites and derivatives of testosterone it’s possible that if the brain senses high levels of masculine mones and for a long enough period of time that it assumes the signal is yours, that it will assume you have plenty of testosterone and thus reduce production of the main hormone responsible for physically changing you from a boy to a man…sound pleasant?  
I’m not saying this will happen, we just don’t know, but it is possible. Basically by using mones during puberty you’re being a guinea pig.  
**A better alternative would be to start exercising and eating a healthy diet to optimize your current hormone levels. Did you know that pro bodybuilders spend THOUSANDS of dollars a month experimenting on themselves trying to find the right combination of Steroids, Human Growth Hormone, Insulin, and IGF1 in the perfect holy grail ratio that they call the puberty cocktail? See nobody has been able to find the right doses in the right ratio’s at the right time to mimic the hormone cascade that occurs during puberty…why do they care? Because the muscle most bodybuilders, weight lifters and athletes gain on a steroid cycle is temporary and goes away after a while…however any muscle you gain during puberty is pretty much with you for life. Take advantage of this time, maximize it and your NATURAL pheromone signature (produced as a side effect of all those hormones you’re capitalizing on) should be fine.**

Psychological dependence. Now I could be wrong and I’m sure that any teenage boy reading this will say to himself “Oh that’s not me at all”. But here’s the thing. You went from a stage where girls were simply other humans that had cooties, or at best were nice company that you liked but you never quite understood why. At this age not only are you developing physically, but psychologically and socially as well. Girls are now different and you’re learning how they respond to different ways of being talked to as opposed to the guys you know. You’re learning that you have to talk to a female differently than you do to a guy.

Pheromones are a tool that enhances things, it doesn’t replace anything but having been a teenager and gone through a shy stage myself I know full well that most young guys come here hoping it will replace the need to develop social skills and game…that it will cause the women to make the first move so you don’t have to change, learn or grow. Suppose it works, suppose you don’t have to do anything to develop the confidence to walk up and talk to a girl, she comes to you so you don’t have to risk being rejected. Well at that point the tool has become a crutch and mentally/emotionally/psychologically you’re still 15 even though your real age could be 20. Suppose you run out of mones and don’t have the cash to buy more? Do you stay alone at home until you can afford your next order? What if the company goes out of business? Or in a possibility less jinxing for AD suppose the company becomes so big that all the guys you compete against are now using the same products? Well now that part of the playing field is level and you’re left having to rely on social skills you never developed. **A better alternative would be getting a few different books on meeting girls and picking up, don’t follow the advice word for word but get a sense of the concepts and how you can apply them to your unique situation. Develop your social skills and game NOW and then when you hit college you can ENHANCE your game with some good [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/).**

Social effects, you guys start checking out the early bloomers that are D cups before they can drive and get a hard on in class and you show up buying Turn Up The Heat thinking “awww hells yeah, this is gonna get the girls better than Axe”…five kinds of WRONG!  
Fact is teenage girls tend to be scared and nervous around high None signatures. Worse yet, all the boys around you have skyrocketing testosterone levels which already makes them competitive and aggressive and a high none signature can enhance that aggression and direct it toward you. If you absolutely positively just GOTTA use mones in spite of being warned against the potential problems physically and mentally that can come from them then stick with a single Rone product like IG and some socials like IO, IH or Shine…I’m not advising you use them at all, but if you’re going to these will work better for what you want then TuTH or Instant Jerk would.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/3 "2010-09-06T19:17:07Z")

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> [@anon13543563](#):
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> is it true you keep your muscles from puerbty?

Up until old age when you actually start to physically deteriorate…barring some degenerative disease or something but yeah. you start working out and eating healthy…not the typical teenager diet of greasy burger and pizza washed down with a giant can of liquid crack energy drinks and the muscle mass you gain will pretty much stay with you well into middle age. Not saying you’ll be ripped the whole time as your body fat levels can fluctuate but you will NEVER have an easier time gaining muscle mass naturally than you do right now. And the mass you gain now will pretty much stay with you.

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**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/4 "2010-09-06T23:44:52Z")

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What about A314 and AMMO? And I really appreciate that you care about us I just really want an edge and if 2012 is real eh.

My dads a doctor I’ll definitly need to get his take on this… 😕

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/5 "2010-09-06T23:59:16Z")

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Both contain Androstenone A314 a very small amount but Ammo is equal parts None, Rone and Nol.

And you’ll note, that I not only listed physical issues but social. Including the part where I said “ **IF** ” they work like you want. See the pheromones are like this. Take A314 for example. It’s a high status product designed to give off the vibe of an alpha male. Now at 15 you might consider an alpha male to be the chest thumping gorilla on the football team that gives wedgies to all your friends…far from it. A true alpha is a leader and naturally charismatic character. This would be more akin to the class president or most popular guy in school for your perspective. Now wearing pheromones doesn’t brainwash anyone!, It won’t make them uncontrollably filled with the need to be filled with you. It communicates a message about you. That message can either be enhanced or utterly destroyed by your own actions or lack of action.  
So if you use A314 and act shy and timid, it will make you look about as high status as a guy wearing an italian suit…while picking his nose with one hand and scratching his balls with the other.  
Wanna wear Ammo? go ahead. Bear in mind it has Rone (the status vibe pheromone that’s in A314) so you still have to act a little alpha and confident or it loses it’s effect.  
It’s also got None, the main ingredient in [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) and TuTH so you have to act a little assertive otherwise the people will get a first impression of you and then dismiss it as them having misjudged you.  
Oh and don’t forget it also has Alpha Androstenol which is light, fun, chatty and social so you’ll need walk up to girls in way that’s warm and smiling and strike up conversations.  
So in the end it’s really not going to do anything other than make a better first impression, one that you can lose if you depend on them and expect them to do all the work for you.

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**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/6 "2010-09-07T00:23:11Z")

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It doesn’t matter to me if it could cause things to not work even though I can’t talk during class… all I’m worried about is it effecting my body and brain.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/7 "2010-09-07T00:26:44Z")

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Which is understandable, I’m just surprised that you’ll buy something for 50 bucks a pop expecting a certain result when almost everyone here is telling you that you have to work with the product. And yeah you can’t talk during class…you can’t fuck during class either so what exactly are you expecting them to do? Obviously I mean talking when you’re NOT in class…you know the same time you’re expecting other things to happen from the mones.

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/8 "2010-09-07T04:38:11Z")

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You keep the muscle you build during puberty but you can still gain muscle effectively into your 60s. Look at chuck norris.It takes time to build a physique like Mark Walhlberg,Selevester Stalone,Terry Cruse,Vin Diesel and the rock.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/9 "2010-09-07T04:40:30Z")

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interesting but we’re really missing the point of the actual post and running with a simple tidbit of info that was thrown as an aside.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/12 "2010-09-09T03:27:20Z")

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> [@psylocybin](#):
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> . We grow because of HGH (human growth hormones) that are found in abundance within our bodies so for pheros to inhibit HGH production, release, function, it would mean that people who work out would lose out as well because HGH is what is released into the bloodstream that help your muscles grow. And I know for a fact that many people use pheros when working out (myself included) because it gives them an extra drive to push themselves farther (OR to mack fit women working out which is kinda sleazy..)

Thanks “Endocrinologist.” I sure feel confident for all the teens out there 🙄

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/13 "2010-09-09T03:42:33Z")

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> [@anon13543563](#):
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> pretty sure taylor lautner got his body from a slim to like a buff dude in like a year or so.. i’m not lookin to be huge just buff as taylor since all the girls like him 🙂 if you can’t beat em join em.
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> @ psylobin nice analogies man

Yah what he did is not that hard to do. But to develop a physique like the rock or Selvestor Stalone takes years(if you do it naturally). I guarantee you taylor what ever his face is took creatine, had a personal chef,trainer and he probably used something like hydroxycut.

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**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/16 "2010-09-09T03:55:30Z")

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> [@anon13543563](#):
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> i could never write some thing that long and be organized .. on a forum.

Lol I KNOW!!! thats the longest fucking post I’ve ever written. I just felt I had to dispel defend “teens” and rad wrote so much I had to cover everything.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/17 "2010-09-09T04:35:50Z")

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> [@psylocybin](#):
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> FUCK no lol. LMFAO. I’ve grown since then and my d#ck is fine and my pubes r fine and there is nothing wrong with me. We grow because of HGH (human growth hormones) that are found in abundance within our bodies so for pheros to inhibit HGH production, release, function, it would mean that people who work out would lose out as well because HGH is what is released into the bloodstream that help your muscles grow. And I know for a fact that many people use pheros when working out (myself included) because it gives them an extra drive to push themselves farther (OR to mack fit women working out which is kinda sleazy..)

Actually bone growth is the result of HGH. Muscle growth is due to a cascade of various hormones including HGH, Testosterone (otherwise why would bodybuilders take steroids?), Insulin and Insulin Like Growth Factor 1…or IGF1 for short.

Your mini me grows as a result of Dihydrotestosterone or DHT, an aromastase of testosterone. How big your manhood gets is determined by the number of androgen receptors in the region, their sensitivity and the abundance of DHT. Now before any meagerly endowed men here go hunting for topical DHT you should know that while DHT has very strong androgenic qualities it has little to no anabolic qualities…it doesn’t do much for building muscle. It’s also the hormone most responsible for violent mood swings (roid rage), enlarged prostate (and possibly prostate cancer) and baldness.

SOME DHT is obviously needed by the body in order to produce masculine characteristics…without it boys will ALWAYS be boys.

As for using ones self as anecdotal evidence that a thing is safe is irresponsible in my opinion. I took steroids when I was kickboxing some 15 years ago. Now as far as I know my prostate is fine and as healthy as can be expected for my age, no known liver problems and a full head of sexy as fuck wavy dark hair…but I would NEVER advise, condone, encourage Roid use to anyone or tell them it’s safe simply because “Hey, it worked for me and I turned out ok”

Like most young kids he was hearing part of the argument and not paying attention to the whole thing or getting the meaning behind it. NOBODY ever said that “if you do this, this will happen” We ARE saying that we just honestly don’t fucking know. But anyone with a shred of common sense would maybe notice that some the “thanks” I got on some of these posts are coming from people that actually make their money off selling these products…why would they thank me for warning somebody against using certain types of products if me doing so might cost them a sale?  
It’s because they run an ethical and upright business and are concerned about possible health issues.

I don’t honestly know if heavy phero use for the long or short term is something that can effect your natural hormone levels. The body has a built in feedback system. Why do you think steroid use causes shrunken testes, or at best low T levels, why some body builders get gynecomastia (bitch tits). It’s because your body senses an over abundance of testosterone and converts excess into Estrogen. Does this mean that [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (that are derivatives of testosterone) will carry a signal to the brain and trick it into thinking the same thing? I don’t know, I admit I don’t know I’ll even say it again so nobody can claim I’m pretending to be an expert “I don’t know”. But it’s possible. Given reports of self effects on IJ sounding eerily like the mood swings I got when using sustenon250 it wouldn’t surprise me…heavy TuTH doses have self effect on me…in a heavy dose of 3 sprays or more of 2X I feel sexually predatory. I fee like I could drill a hole in a cinder block with my johnson and that was a normal feeling when I was on cycle so denying the comparison when the psychological effects are so similar is being pretty naive.

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> ALSO, **Steroids** chemically mimic actual human **hormones** so I’m guessing that they must be extremely similar if not completely similar synthetic versions of real **hormones** that are produced naturally by the human body. So for us to have an unwanted side-effect from synthetic **Steroids** would be hard for me to understand.

See what I mean?

Moving on to Psychological Dependance:

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> This is part of the post that I feel should not be directed solely at teens because MANY “adults” get into Pick up because they have an inability to communicate socially. In fact, and I mean this with no offense, I found it very saddening that there were/are fully grown men who had come to the point where they would do just about anything to learn how to communicate with women. I’ve come to the conclusion that they isolated themselves or were (through other factors) isolated from social gatherings and from gaining social experience throughout their youth. Nowadays, every 10 year old knows what Facebook and MSN are. Every kid (with the exception of a few) KNOWS how to text. You don’t see classes being run teaching teens how to run phone game or how to text properly or how not to be creepy on fb. Whereas I’ve seen books, Internet sites, Seminars and ALL THE LIKE, promoting just such a thing for those adults who went through their youth and FAILED to gain a suitable amount of insight into the workings of social dynamics. Everybody’s different and I’ve seen 14 year olds who are smoother with ladies and way more socially savvy than 40 year olds that just don’t understand that buying a girl drinks isn’t how you get into her pants. Thats why I believe this quote is unjustly directed at teens.

You have a valid point, I do see that a lot. I also see guys that can do fine with one girl one day and blow out the next day and are just looking for an understanding not only of what they did wrong, but what they did right…constancy. Now these products you see about text game, phone game, facebook game etc may all be marketed toward adults…but it’s not just adults that are buying them. As the recent topics regarding teen use of mones can verify. Young guys will go to length to try and understand women. You’re statement almost implies a generational gap where the guys that were kids way back in the day are social failures but todays younger generation has it together. Hell the very same poster you’re quoting fessed up in another thread about owning and reading products about phone/text game and myspace/facebook profile game…at 15 years old which is fine and again…the point of the message was totally lost. I was stating that it’s during this time of his life that social skills are developed. HS is the place where between the strong emphasis on intramural sports, clubs, class offices etc that social hierarchies are first TRULY formed. And thus the WORST time to be relying on a magic pill (or spray) that he thinks will do the work for him. NOBODY should expect the mones to do all the work but rarely if ever will a person be in an environment so conducive to learning social dynamics than in the HS/College years

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> You expressed your thoughts on how pheros could be used as a crutch and never released but I believe that everyone leans on pheros for that extra edge. And that everyone here has at one point hoped (if not expected) that a woman would make a first move on them when they first started with pheros. I know I did but the fact about those expectations, is that through our experimentation we evolved and came to understand that pheros aren’t a magic potion and girls won’t just rip their clothes off after getting a whiff of you and thats EXACTLY what androtics tries to convey to EVERYONE who joins pherotalk for the first time REGARDLESS of their age.

Yeah, and I tried explaining that to him, telling him that it won’t do all the work for him, giving him advice on how to be congruent with the signal. He’s so resistant to the idea that he said he can’t because he can’t talk in class…?..when the hell was he expecting the girls to react? OBVIOUSLY I meant before/after/between classes but he doesn’t WANT a tool, he want’s this to do the work for him so much so that he’s resistant to the idea that it won’t work that way and he’s still going to have to make the first move.

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> I LOLD hard at this but the truth is (and you know this), fully grown men buy TUTH and expect the EXACT SAME THING. and it KILLS me to take the fall for those highly misinformed guys. I can’t tell you how many posts I’ve answered that started off something like “Yeah I bought TUTH so why didn’t my girl just rip her clothes off and shag me?”.
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> So basically what I’m saying is that most of what you’ve written should be directed at NEWBIES in general as opposed to TEENS because I’d say about 80% of newbies have the exact same mentality regardless of age. So I’m going to post alot of what you said again as “tips for newbies” because I truly believe what you said should be taken into account by ALL those who join androtics so as to dispel any wrong ideas.

I agree with you about the newbies, in fact I even posted a thread a while back about how so many first time users go straight for the tuth and all other products (if any) are purchased as an afterthought. But, when I’ve spoken to most adults and explain how and why some mones work in some situations but might be bad in others…they listen. They want whatever works and understand when it’s explained to them that the axe effect is a myth, that NOTHING works like Oceans 13 (side note that’d actually be a pretty cool name for a product wouldn’t it…they could scent it like Cool Water or something and…yeah)  
But when we tried to warn him against TuTH he reacted like he knew what he was doing (hell I know I did when I was 15…man I wish I could turn back the clock and know everything again) and the way he dismissed any warnings or advice against using TuTH it felt like he perceived anyone telling him the “sex” product was not the best idea was just a mean old grown up that just didn’t want him to have any fun.  
Not saying that’s the case but that’s what some of the reply’s felt like to me.

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**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/18 "2010-09-09T20:26:17Z")

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I understand that it wont do all the work for me..

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/19 "2010-09-09T20:58:41Z")

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Pheros don’t do the job for you they make it easier for you to do the job yourself. Like If a guy has approach anxiety and puts on some spaceland and maybe a shot of IJ to boost his confidence throught the roof.

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**Author:** ![skumskilla](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/skumskilla/32/1693_2.png) [@skumskilla](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skumskilla)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/20 "2010-12-08T03:12:36Z")

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If 2012 is gonna happen, and we are aware of it before it happens… I think everyone will get some… lol. I also like what RAD pointed out, getting your social skills up. When I first started using mones two years ago I was way too shy, I felt like girls were confused around me cause of the way I carried myself. But now that I’m back on mones again (and a lil more socially mature) there is no confusion when they get within range of my juices 😉

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**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/21 "2010-12-09T19:00:04Z")

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Thanks RADMAN for the post! I totally agree with you 100% on every point you mentioned, only because I’ve done some research while in college on the effects of checmical enhancements that are introduced into the body during teenage years. I wish I had it to post now.

That’s why I made the suggestion a while back that maybe AD should consider 18 (with proof) as the minimum age to [buy Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) or anything for that matter from the store.

I WISH I had products like this when growing up, but at the same time, No offense to the teenagers on this forum (which some are my friends), you need to let nature take its course during HS and just live it the way its intended. Let your body develop itself naturally without the help of checmicals. This includes Steroids, Prohormones, and Pheromones.

I hope more people see the value of this thread!

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**Author:** ![hschooler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7cd45c/32.png) [@hschooler](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hschooler)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/22 "2010-12-09T20:36:38Z")

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> [@Morphious](#):
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> Thanks RADMAN for the post! I totally agree with you 100% on every point you mentioned, only because I’ve done some research while in college on the effects of checmical enhancements that are introduced into the body during teenage years. I wish I had it to post now.

May i ask what kind of chemicals you researched? Also, even though you don’t have the research on hand, do you remember what your results were roughly?

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**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-advice-for-teenage-males/41437/23 "2010-12-09T21:27:09Z")

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> [@hschooler](#):
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> May i ask what kind of chemicals you researched? Also, even though you don’t have the research on hand, do you remember what your results were roughly?

You are asking for something I did back in college back in 1994. But sure…I willl try to answer to the best of my memory serves me.

It wasn’t a specific chemical. My statement was that it was the effects of chemical enhancements that were introduced to our bodies. This was includes everything from drugs, steroids, prohormones, supplements, even over the counter drugs. It wasn’t anything in particular.

To give you a summary of what that research had to deal with (from what I recall), the early use chemicals are being found to cause significant attritional effects to the nervous system and immune system after prolonged exposure. Illnesses identified in the medical research community include adult and child cancers, numerous neurological disorders, immune system weakening, autoimmune disorders, asthma, allergies, infertility, miscarriage, and child behavior disorders including learning disabilities, mental retardation, hyperactivity and ADD (attention deficit disorders).

The human body’s metabolic and physiological systems reach maturity by the age of 5 generally. The only exception to this rule is the hormone controlled systems that usually change and develop more during the age of puberty. So things like Steroids, Pro-hormones, and Pheromones are some materials that will affect the hormone status during puberty, brain maturation, and other things as well.

That’s why, if you really think about it, Chemistry classes that involve labs, have to be properly approved and accepted as a curriculum to make sure that use of chemicals in high school labs would have been subject to risk assessment and be considered appropriate to the age of the children, and eliminate and minimize the risk of exposure.

Since pheromones are considered to affect the neurological system and endocrine system, so I strongly believe it falls under such pre-cautions.

Hope that answers your question. LOL I think I may have given you a research idea for school 🙂
