# Pheromone guide for newbies and doubts **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [March 21, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291 "2009-03-21T22:57:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![striker9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@striker9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/striker9)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/1 "2009-03-21T22:57:17Z")
This guide is to people like me, 21 years old male that want to get girls. - pheromone products organized by types (you can layer pheromones of the same type if they aren’t [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)) - start always with 1 spray or drop and work up until you find your dosage (your sweet spot, normally 1 to 3 - if you spray 1 and are ok, 2 and are ok but 3 don’t work, stop at 2) each product separately. put in places where you don’t sweat and where girls are going to smell. Place in your body, it’s the better place. - pheromones last for 6/8h, if is [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) it last for more time. Recommended is having a bath between all aplications. **Androstenone** - better when girls are ovulating - more direct to the arousal senses OD: people avoid you. too much can make bad smell - excitation, get arousement from girls, uplifts your confidence. only use when you are more intimate with the girl **Alpha Androstenol** - 1 to 3 sprays - good for seduction, women need to feel connected, the key to they feel safe to show arousal (so mixing with androstenone is good) - OD: less masculine feeling **TAA** 1 to 3/5 sprays - instant shine (feel good) - makes you more bright, more charisma, people feel better, bit sexual. **A-1** (Androstadienone) - the “love” pheromone, increases affection, great for premenstrual syndrome (to calm) and to nerves **Androsterone** - Alpha 314 - 1/2 drop, because it is oil it continues for more time than spray - respect, confidence, good to work with people _If you use too much:_ people get nervous, avoid you. Not good to people come talk to you ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/2 "2009-03-22T11:53:01Z")
There is a lot of info on the molecules new people can read up on. Of course we welcome you to start your guide as well, I just didnt want you to think the info is not available here. I know the forum is big and it can be hard to sort it all out. All the stickies at the top of each forum are the most important place to start. > [@Mens Pheromone Guide revised 6/15](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mens-pheromone-guide-revised-6-15/12168): > > Revised for 2010/11 Common question thread [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012) Ok I had to put the guide in this section of the forum because the men’s have way to many stickies now and I didn’t want to add another there. So anyways I got quite a few requests to do a men’s guide and I am flattered but want you to all know upfront that without all the wonderful postings on pheromones by the experienced men I would never been abl… There are a lot of links in this guide to bring you to important posts on the molecules. > [@Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159): > > Ok. Feel free to correct any errors I may have made. This took forever to write, so I hope you like it. Chapter 1 Alpha Androstenone: In the forum this is commonly referred to as –none or none. It is a hormone produced in men and women’s sweat. (significantly less if women) “Androstenone is the first mammalian pheromone to be identified.” ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone)) Androstenone has the ability to cause arousal in women during their ovulation. It also has the ability cause irr… [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106) Starting post 7 he covers the products. > [@\-none, -rone, -nol explained](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720): > > Here is a description of all of these found on another site and as a newB I found it to be very helpful: Androstenone (a.k.a -none, Anone): Signals dominance and aggression, quite competitive. -none is often associated with a sexual response, but by no means exclusively. Androstenol (a.k.a -nol, Anol): Signals youth, and sociability, often induces lots of talking, friendliness and comfort. As it often seems to cause conversation, it can be a good ice breaker. Androsterone (a.k.a -rone, … > [@](#): > > - pheromone products organized by types (you can combine the types but don’t cross pheromones from the same type?) You can cross mixes of the same type. Just dont over do the anone products. > [@](#): > > Place in your body, if it’s winter in the clothes. Skin is the nest application spot winter or summer. Cloth is absorbant and will hold onto the molecules. Only use cloth application if you have to. > [@](#): > > - Alpha 314 > > - 1/2 drop, because it is oil it continues for more time than spray > > - respect, confidence, good to work with people > [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) : people get nervous, avoid you The nervous reaction to A314 is not a OD its the natural reaction to the Alpha Male which is why we suggest its best used by more outgoing people who will approach others when used just for attraction. In a work environment its great for everyone because in work you pretty much have to interact with others. If you get lost in the forum just PM me and ask for a guided tour. Thats what I am here for 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![striker9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@striker9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/striker9)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/3 "2009-03-22T14:37:33Z")
Tisha, thanks for the fast answer! I base my guide in some of those links. I’m just trying to do a fast guide (easy to compare) for some of the products (so i can put the guide next to my bottle). It’s a guide for myself and maybe for some newbies. If possible answer me all the red questions and review it. I’ve readed all the links you gave me and have updated the guide, please check 🙂 I can’t find much more speed info. Thanks for the great support. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/4 "2009-03-22T16:46:27Z")
> [@](#): > > ammunition (for the battle of the sexes) - 2,5mg spray, apply only one time (or more???) , can use at “all places” -\> less sexual than turn up the heat with less cons. no need to mix. Or More ??? Yes you can apply it again about 6 to 8 hours after you used it. I give more time for this one because anone is more sticky then the other molecules. I dont suggest you do it all the time without taking showers in between though or build up can occur. > [@](#): > > instant honesty - people feel safer, good to intimate conversations, cloness, not sexual (won’t girls see you has just a friend???) IH is primarily Bnol, Its not sexual in nature like anone would be. Anone go’s straight to the arousal senses. IH gives a feeling of connection and closeness… intimacy and to women this is key in allowing us to express arousal. Men generally feel connection and intimacy with a women after sex. Men are more instinct driven. Women need to feel those feeling before we act on sex. We are more emotion driven. So IH can lead to sex although its not sexual. Coupled with a more sexual mone like anone TUTH AMMO it can be very beneficial. > [@](#): > > A-1 > > - Instant Female Magic - safe, a bit sexual, calm girls, cuddly. not for direct attraction (more for female friends or what?) IFM or A1 is the “love” mone. It brings feelings of calm and ease but it increases affection. Not sure what you mean by your question, do you mean does it only effect women or is it for women to wear ? Women use it for self effects, Great for PMS Men use it for the same reason, to ease the women around them but with the added benefits of the affection and attraction. It helps women get past nerves as well. Opens them up to new experiences because they feel more at ease with those feelings. > [@](#): > > Where can i find a mix tutorial for starters? Well the links I gave you to look at cover a lot of that. Depends on what you want to be tutored in. The consumer products ? The different raw mones ? How to use them ? How to mix them ? Putative dont really have a tutorial because they are experimental and they do not want the testing influenced by that. ---
**Author:** ![striker9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@striker9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/striker9)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/5 "2009-03-22T23:03:54Z")
Hi tisha, i’ve corrected everything you gave me, and readed more posts in the forum. I think here is a great mini tutorial for newbies, what do you think i should had more, or what i’m missing? If you could take another look to the post i would be thankfull. I also have some doubts, if you can answer me: 1. So to use Androstenone (direct arousal), you need to use Alpha Androstenol also so you can give girls intimacy so they can express arousal? 2)when A-1 (Androstadienone), will be back? 2. About mixing the products i want how to get the best results from the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) i described without making mistakes and knowing what pheromones can i mix can you give me links? 4)And should i stop building up the dosage when i start having negative reactions? I mean for example 1spray does good 2 sprays does very good 3 sprays i don’t know 4 sprays bad reaction? It’s confusing to do this with all my products. Thanks! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/6 "2009-03-24T00:40:17Z")
> [@](#): > > 1. So to use [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) (direct arousal), you need to use Alpha [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) also so you can give girls intimacy so they can express arousal? No Anol doesn’t induce intimacy that’s IH (primarily bnol). No you don’t have to use it with anone if you dont want to. Keep in mind if your comparing the single molecules like anone and bnol to the products androtics makes like TUTH or IH, they have much more in them then that. They don’t reveal the whole formula. For instance IH is bnol anol and another mone in a specific ratio. The results of pure bnol will be different then IH TUTH is mostly anone but has 9 other steering mones. The results of anone with also be different then TUTH. So the result you would get from the raw mones would be slightly different then the mixes that androtics sells. > [@](#): > > 2)when A-1 (Androstadienone), will be back? I am not sure, Its very costly to synthesize and androtics wanted to work with some other molecules right now. > [@](#): > > 1. About mixing the products i want how to get the best results from the pheromones i described without making mistakes and knowing what pheromones can i mix can you give me links? With raw mones … Well to tell you the truth mixing raw mones like anol, bnol a1 or anone takes a lot of experience and understanding of the molecules and how they interact. The correct buffers carriers and ratio’s. Some mixes take years of trial and error as well as testing before they can meet consumer standards. There is no guide really you just have to use and learn about mones and come up with a mix and test it out. With the consumer mixes … The consumer products like IO IH TUTH etc etc… here are made for layering not for mixing. This way you don’t throw the ratio and balance off. What you use together is up to you. Some mixes compliment each other better then others but we are all made different and its something you need to experiment with. The variations in mix and molecule layering you can try are almost endless here. I like to keep it to layering around 2 to 4 products. More can give to many signals and not work well. Keep in mind though that each consumer mix can be used as a stand alone product. You do not have to layer them if you choose not to. They work on their own very well. > [@](#): > > 4)And should i stop building up the dosage when i start having negative reactions? Yes, find your sweet spot. This is the dosage that works for you. If you find you get results with 2 and 3 but no results or negative results with 4 then 2 or 3 is your dosage. > [@](#): > > 1spray does good > 2 sprays does very good > 3 sprays i don’t know > 4 sprays bad reaction? > > It’s confusing to do this with all my products. I dont see how its confusing. 2 sprays would be your dosage from the example above. Test them one at a time and write your results down for each so you don’t forget or get confused. Then when you tested them all and see what each one can do for you and at how much you can layer them. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![striker9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@striker9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/striker9)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/7 "2009-03-24T23:58:32Z")
“”““I like to keep it to layering around 2 to 4 products. More can give to many signals and not work well. Keep in mind though that each consumer mix can be used as a stand alone product. You do not have to layer them if you choose not to.””“”“”" But isn’t good to mix them, to get better results? I just want to know where should i start after knowing the products. \_\_ tisha thanks for the awesome answers!! I’m trying to don’t make much confusion right now, i have edited my guide. For what you see in my guide, it’s a correct guide that i can use to start my [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) journey or would you change anything, delete anything or add anything else? thanks! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/8 "2009-03-25T01:49:09Z")
> [@](#): > > But isn’t good to mix them, to get better results? I just want to know where should i start after knowing the products. Not mix… layer, Get used to that difference because new people make that mistake when they here the word “mix” They sometimes think that means put them in the same bottle which is a no no at least until you have a whole lot of experience with them. 😉 Well after you have used each of your products on their own and found your sweet spot then layer 2 of them and test that out. You will find your favorites and what works best for you. 😃 Your guide looks good. Dont get stressed out or confused about the products. we are here to help you, which is one of the great benefits of Androtics. We dont just hand you bottles and say see ya have fun, we teach you how to make the most of them. Think of it as a journey or adventure. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![striker9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@striker9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/striker9)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/9 "2009-03-28T23:51:41Z")
Tisha thanks for the great answer. My guide is finalized. I’ll print it and put it near my bottles, near an paper so i can test each product. “Think of it as a journey or adventure.” 😃 Here i go! Hope this guide we’ll be helpfull to the new members has well! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![striker9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@striker9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/striker9)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/10 "2009-03-29T00:01:01Z")
btw how do you test layers? If i have 7 products i need hundreds of combinations to cover everything. Maybe 10/20 years! ---
**Author:** ![Phunkengreuven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Phunkengreuven](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phunkengreuven)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/11 "2009-03-29T00:26:20Z")
What’s good to intimate conversations? Do you mean good to INITIATE conversations, or good FOR intimate conversations? Also, what is CLONESS?? - instant honesty - people feel safer, good to intimate conversations, cloness, not directly sexual, intimacy ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/12 "2009-03-29T00:43:19Z")
He meant intimate conversations and closness is closeness. Now go buy some Ishine 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/13 "2009-04-13T13:01:12Z")
Is there a guide like in the first post for women specifically? I saw a results page in the Women’s Section, but a product usage guide for woman would be nice too. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/14 "2009-04-25T10:42:36Z")
What kind of information would you like covered in a product usage guide ? I can always add to the Women and Mens Phero Guides and any suggestions on the information you would find useful would be appreciated. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Ally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Ally](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ally)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/15 "2010-08-04T11:09:01Z")
Hi there, I’m new to the forum so this is my first post. i just bought alpha a134 and instant shine, cant wait to try alpha. I have tried ammo and intant shine before, they were great. i’m curious as to what effects alpha has, would alpha a134 make me seem really serious? because I feel I already give of that serious vibe lol ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/16 "2010-08-04T21:04:42Z")
Hey and Welcome to the forum. A314 is the best! I use it everyday for work. Alpha A314 won’t make you serious it’ll make you seem like the leader, for me [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and AMMO softens up that effect, even at work. It works great and I just switch the ratio’s when I go out for my normal mix. A314 betters you, I believe that it helps from inside out and outside in. I would try those out. P.S. Message steve to move this to the New Users Introduction forum so you can earn your $25 GC ---
**Author:** ![LondonRose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/londonrose/32/634_2.png) [@LondonRose](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LondonRose)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-guide-for-newbies-and-doubts/27291/17 "2010-08-19T21:33:13Z")
I think I so fell in love with this. ahahahahaha. Ooooh. So excited! you guys are hella epic. thanks!!! \<3