# Pheromone highlights in bar/club settings

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [March 24, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263 "2010-03-24T14:33:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/181 "2012-09-08T16:02:18Z")

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Cleaned Application Points

Saturday - 8PM

Wiped down neck, chest, and stomach with witch hazel.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/182 "2012-09-09T11:17:07Z")

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PI and A314 - Saturday Night

Saturday 10PM

2 Drops of PI - one to each side of my torso  
2 Drops of A314 - rubbed on top of the PI application  
1 Spray of the Beat Cologne to my chest

Results  
For the most part, ineffective although I really didn’t do enough cold approaches to really test. One girl I approached was really attracted to me and I was holding her hand for a couple of minutes as we talked until her boyfriend showed up and she snapped out of it. She continued to talk to me for a another minute or two while her boyfriend was in the area. She seemed attracted to the point where she didn’t want to walk away from me. She was in the minority because most women did not care for this pheromone combination.

I think this is an okay combination but I think A314 is more powerful with [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/).

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/183 "2012-09-10T14:28:44Z")

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Monday - 1 Spray Edge

Monday 6:15 PM - 1 Spray Edge to stomach - held a foot & a half from stomach - not sure how much actually stuck on me.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/184 "2012-09-12T20:29:25Z")

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NPA/Edge

Wednesday 7PM

1 Spray Edge to Lower Stomach  
1 Spray 2:3 NPA/Cologne to chest

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/185 "2012-09-13T11:17:04Z")

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Witch Hazel Wipe Down

Thursday 3:15 PM - Wiped down stomach and chest with Witch Hazel

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 6:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/186 "2012-09-15T06:53:15Z")

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2 Drops PI & 50mcg of P83

Friday 9PM

2 Drops of PI - one drop under each collar bone spread around  
50 mcg P83 to stomach  
1 Spray of The Beat Cologne to Chest as cover

Other Potential Factors that could have skewed results  
10 mg sublingual NADH  
1 Red Korean Ginseng Pill  
New Haircut

The pheromones worked exceptionally well today. Even my very first approach went very well. No makeouts or lays but my cold approaches opened very consistently. Several woman gave me a chance so the pheromones definitely did my job. Some women were really attracted to me at the moment I opened. I put the nootropics and haircut in the posting because there is a chance that those could have helped my approaches rather than the pheromones. **But I do think P83 with PI is super.** I will do more testing with this combination.

There were a few moments where I felt like the mix was making women uncomfortable but it was minimal. So far this combination is very promising with for my body chemistry.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/187 "2012-09-15T17:01:59Z")

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Wiped down application points with Witch Hazel

Saturday 9PM - Wiped down PI application points with witch Hazel before shower.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 8:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/188 "2012-09-16T08:17:35Z")

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2 Drops PI & 50mcg of P83

Saturday 9:45 PM  
Friday 9PM

2 Drops of Primal Instinct - one drop under each collar bone spread around  
50 mcg P83 to stomach  
1 Spray of The Beat Cologne to Chest as cover

Other Potential Factors that could have skewed results  
10 mg sublingual NADH  
1 Red Korean Ginseng Pill  
New Haircut

Exact same phermones and nootropics as Friday.

Results  
At the first few bars, approaches went pretty crappy. I wasn’t getting outright rejected but the conversations were stalling out before they even started. It was actually pretty brutal and I was wondering why my results were so different from Friday. Then at around 2AM I approached a cute girl who turned out to be DTF and ended up getting laid. It was pretty easy because she was sober and looking to get laid. I credit the pheromones for her selecting me instead of another guy. 🙂

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 10:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/189 "2012-09-21T10:21:12Z")

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NPA - Wednesday Night

Wednesday Night - 10PM

1 Spray 2:3 NPA/Cologne to chest

Long 2 hour conversation that went nowhere but she let me keep my hand on her leg as we were looking into each other’s eyes and talking.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/190 "2012-09-21T10:26:25Z")

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NPA - Thursday Night

Thursday Night - 10:30 PM  
1 Spray 2:3 NPA/Cologne to chest

Sat down at bar and very attractive drunk girl started hitting on me. We talked for about 1/2 hour and she bought me a shot that I really didn’t want but I sucked it up and drank it. She looked like she wanted to be kissed but she was too drunk so I passed. She told me to call her and she was so drunk she thought we had exchanged numbers already. I insisted that we did not so she handed me her phone with the empty contacts screen and I entered my number. Then she texted me her number. Then I went home. I wonder if I should bother trying to contact her. Who knows if she will remember me?

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**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/191 "2012-09-21T13:24:02Z")

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Lol nice hit… but don’t contact her, let her pursue you. Plus it’s just one girl, no reason to ever get attached to just one girl when there are millions of others out there!

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/192 "2012-09-23T06:49:29Z")

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Fri/Sat Witch Hazel wipe downs then PI + P83

**Friday Night**

Wiped down with Witch Hazel then showered before applying pheromones.  
PI - 2 drops - one under each collar bone  
P83 - 25 mcg

No hits but bars I went to sucked.

**Saturday Night**

Wiped down with Witch Hazel then showered before applying pheromones.  
PI - 2 drops - one under each collar bone  
P83 - 25 mcg

Uneventful night. Not many hits. Best hit - a girl smiled at me so I approached. We talked for about a half hour but it went no where but she seemed somewhat interested in me. I also had a cold approach that went alright - we talked for about 15 minutes and she showed mild interest in me.

The whole night I kept on smelling this strange/funky odor whereever I went. I can’t smell Androstenone but I was wondering if I was learning to smell it. When I got home I smelled my PI bottle and smelled nothing. I can’t figure what was going on with this odor.

Update - the funky odor I was smelling turned out to be a weird leather/chemical smell from a new pair of shoes I wore for the first time.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 7:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/193 "2012-09-23T07:32:00Z")

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Post by MHarris regarding oil and Androstenone

I read this old post by MHarris

> [@Raw Power vs. androstenone spray](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/2):
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> Raw Power has a couple of diffusion enhancers that do bring out the natural androstenone odor a little more (to those who can smell it), but otherwise, it’s unscented. Sprays, especially high volume sprays like the ones we use, almost always diffuse [pheromones](https://a314.com/) better than point application products. Visualize the androstenone molecules, if you will. With a typical oil, you’re applying a dot and spread it over a limited area. You’re stacking the androstenone molecules high, one on top of each…

I’ve been loving androstenone on its own in the form of Primal Instinct - an oil based product. I’ve been thinking that androstenone in an oil format may be overkill because androstenone is such a sticky molecule that diffuses slowly anyway.

I just ordered a 5mcg and 10mcg Androstenone Spray. I want to see if this behaves like Primal Instinct behaves.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/194 "2012-09-25T20:09:40Z")

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Tuesday - 5 mcg androstenone

Tuesday 10PM

I got my order in today. Wow, it was a fast delivery!

5mcg androstenone to the chest  
Covered with Light Blue

Stood at the bar next to two girls who were talking. Waited patiently for several minutes for something to comment on. When the opportunity arrived, I opened her and after that she talked to me for most of the next half hour and her friend looked bored.

She was definitely attracted to me but it was not the overwhelming amount of attraction that I have seen with larger doses. This might be a nice dose for low key bars on weekdays. Didn’t scare anyone off.

Androstenone is definitely the most important pheromone in existence for me. Without it I’m just invisible and ignored. With it, many more people like to talk to me.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/195 "2012-09-26T21:12:01Z")

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Wednesday - 5 mcg androstenone

5 mcg androstenone to chest

Nothing good happend tonight. Didn’t come into contact with many women either though.

The first bar I went to was pretty empty. I sat in an empty area or the bar and ordered a drink. After about a little while 3 really hot girls came in that I think were tourists. When they sat down I looked at them but they didn’t acknowledge me. At one point the one who was closest to me looked in my direction and I said, “Hi.” She gave me a dirty look. The three girls were huddled together talking in a foreign language. I waited for another 10 minutes looking for an opportunity to open them but none came. I just left.

The second bar was pretty empty as well. I tried to strike a conversation with the female bartender but she had no interest in talking to me.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/196 "2012-09-27T20:03:00Z")

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Thursday 5 mcg androstenone

5 mcg androstenone to chest

Nothing interesting happened.

Went to a restaurant bar and stayed there for about an hour. There were no single women and a handful of men in their 30s/40s who all seemed to know each other and a bunch of couples. I struck up conversations with a couple of guys around me but they seemed a bit uncomfortable with my vibe. Maybe I’m building up a lot of androstenone after a few days in a row?

One guy later on struck up a conversation with me. He didn’t seem uncomfortable at all and he seemed like the confident alpha male type. Interesting.

I asked one of the guys who worked there if there was ever a single’s scene at that place. He said that single women used to come in but a bunch of regulars treated women like shit and the single women stopped coming. He said that if it was up to him, he would have thrown those regulars out before they drove away the single women. Really cool bar but didn’t seem good for pickup. I might hit it again on a Sunday or Monday evening but definitely will not waste a Thursday on this place again. If I ever decide to start taking women on dates again I might take them to this place.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/197 "2012-09-29T07:28:45Z")

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Friday 10mcg androstenone 50 mcg P83

10 mcg androstenone to chest  
50 mcg P83 to the stomach  
Covered with The Beat

Pheromone combination performed well. No lays our makeouts.

I didn’t hit the bars until after midnight. The best hits were around 3AM at a bar that had a dance floor area.

I had a whole spectrum of responses from women - outright looks of disgust when I approached, neutral uninterested looks, women who briefly chatted out of politeness, a few women who were interested in chatting with me without any overt signs of attraction, and 2 women who gave me that strong eye contact that women give when they are very attracted to a guy as I talked to them. These last 2 hits came at around 3AM but after those I started getting outright rejections.

If my game was stronger I would definitely have gotten somewhere last night. Typical case of the pheromones doing their job and me dropping the ball. I am pleased with the pheromones I wore last night.

Although this seems to be a very well rounded pheromone combination for my body chemistry, I must admit that I do like pherobombs better despite the negatives that come along with them.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 12:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/198 "2012-09-30T12:01:10Z")

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Saturday 10mcg androstenone 50 mcg P83

10 mcg androstenone to chest  
50 mcg P83 to the stomach  
Covered with The Beat

Pheromones behaved very much like Friday. No lays and no makeouts but there were women who were attracted to me and gave me strong eye contact as we talked. Didn’t get anywhere though. The sets kind of blew out as I tried to escalate but they were sort of polite blowouts. I think they just didn’t think I was hot enough to allow me escalate as fast as I wanted to. They would have been perfect sets for a guy who wanted to talk for a couple hours and slowly escalate. I really want the DTF girls or girls looking for a quick makeout who don’t want to waste time chatting with a guy. I found those girls wearing PI but not with 10mcg of androstenone.

I’m thinking of doubling up on the androstenone to 20 mcg. At that level I’m worried about the smell. Since I can’t smell androstenone I won’t know if I smell like cat piss or not. I can double up on the cologne cover but I don’t want to be one of those guys who overdoes it with the cologne. I’ll probably risk it and just do 1 spray of cover with The Beat.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/199 "2012-10-05T11:52:19Z")

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Excited about tonight

Haven’t gone out all week. I think I’m going to bring out the heavy artillery - PI with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). I have a feeling that I’m either going to get laid or suffer through massive rejection and go home alone. It’s kind of like that with the heavy hitters - either you win big or you lose big.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/200 "2012-10-06T06:40:29Z")

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Friday Night - PI and P83

Primal Instinct - 2 drops - one under each collar bone  
P83 - 50 mcg

I spent the entire night with one girl and got nowhere.

I walk into the club, go to the bar. Right after I get a drink I meet a girl who is a tourist and is by herself. Throughout the entire night we talked and we got a late night meal together. I tried to escalate throughout the entire night but she just ignored or turned down my advances. I had my hand on her leg much of the time and she just ignored that. I had my arm around her waist or around her shoulders much of the time and she just ignored that. I went in for a kiss multiple time and she turned down my kiss every time. I invited her back to my place and she turned me down. I tried to hold her hand and she let me do that a little bit but not too much. We rode the subway together and I asked her if she wanted me to walk her back to where she is staying and she said yes. We walked slowly with my arm around her still having a great conversation. She was doing most of the talking.

As we were walking she says to me in her broken English, “You are a really good guy. I don’t know why you don’t have a girlfriend.” Fuck me! If she only knew how much I hate hearing that. Is that a fucking universal thing women tell guys that they don’t want to have sex with all over the world? I had one of the most aggressive pheromones in existence on, I was hitting on her all night, I made it clear that I wanted to make out with her and I invited her back to my place. Yet she perceived me as a good guy? Shit.

When we got to the place she was staying she told me that I can’t come up. I made one last attempt to kiss her but I got her cheek. She told me that I already made her trip to NYC better. She wants to hang out with me the next day and she tells me that she really liked talking to me because we have a lot in common. I told her that I am busy during the day but perhaps the evening.

I honest think that I have a 0% chance of sleeping with her but I did enjoy her company so it wasn’t so bad. By my goal of the night was to find a DTF girl and she definitely was not one.

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