# Pheromone highlights in bar/club settings

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [March 24, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263 "2010-03-24T14:33:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/121 "2011-01-24T00:00:10Z")

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> [@metalTree](#):
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> I remember trying 2 sprays of Instant Jerk last year and I just didn’t have a good night. I’ve had some really good nights combining 1 spray of Instant Jerk with TUTH both this year and last. I don’t know why but it just seems to work better for me.

I think this may be a case of  
“correlation does not imply causation!!”  
Which is rampant in this research anyways 😉

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/122 "2011-04-16T17:28:56Z")

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A comparison of New NPA with [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) + A314

For the last couple of months, I have not gone wild experimenting. Ive been going out with with of the following:

Either:  
IJ 1 spray to throat  
A314 - 2 Drops to the Wrist  
Or  
NPA - 2 Sprays (Throat/Stomach)  
(24:7 in Neroli scented perfumer’s alcohol)

Results -  
IJ/A314  
Still most effective at generating hits but incredibly hard to convert hits into anything substantial. Still generates the most blatant hits but has the tendency I’ve been experiencing to make women uncomfortable. In the last couple of years there have been more than a few times where a girl approaches me and starts to throw herself at me. Then she gets uncomfortable and scurries off without saying a word. This is the only pheromone combination that has this affect of dramatic attraction followed by dramatic repellation (if that’s a word). I really did love the hits but I’m starting to think the negatives are just too much. I’ve used this combination quite a lot in hope that I would be able to counter the repelling effect. I have had long conversations with women on IJ/A314 where they weren’t repelled. But still, I’ve concluded now that IJ/A314 is just too unpredictable.

NPA  
For a long time I considered NPA weaker because it was far less likely to generate the super powerful hits of IJ/314. But some woman are very attracted to me initially when wearing this and they don’t scamper off like with IJ/A314. I’ve had enough makeouts to know that this works. I’ve gotten laid twice while wearing NPA in the last couple of months. In one case we met at the bar, talked for a couple of hours and then started to make out. Within another hour we were having sex. In the other case, we met at a bar and started kissing each other within a few minutes of meeting each other. She was with a large group of girls that night so the logistics were not right but she invited me over the next night.

Hm. I remember that the first product I ever tried was TUTH and I definitely got hits from that. I was approached wearing that as well. Maybe I will ditch the IJ and go back to my roots with TUTH. Maybe I will use it with TAC.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/123 "2011-05-23T17:36:15Z")

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Girl throws herself at me - Saturday Night

1 Spray NPA 24:7 to Throat  
1 Spray TUTH to Throat  
1 Spray TUTH to Stomach  
2 Drops of A314 to Wrists  
The Beat Cover

First time in a while a girl acted like I was a really hot guy. (I wish this would happen more often but I’ll take what I can get.)

At around 2AM, walked into bar and cold approached girl who had just ordered a drink. Cold approach went well but she left to join friends on Dance Floor. Another girl stands right next to me and starts dancing against me. I put my arm around her and within a couple of minutes she initiates a makeout session. Her body was completely aroused by me.

I used to think it was the [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) that would occasionally act like I was totally hot but there was no Instant jerk Saturday night. Now I think the Key might be the A314.

I also did about 20 cold approaches earlier in the evening. Some of the women showed some initial interest but I got no where with them. Also there were quite a few outright rejections.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/124 "2011-05-27T17:29:48Z")

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Short outing Thursday night

1 Spray TUTH to Throat  
1 Spray TUTH to Stomach  
2 Drops of A314 to Wrists

These pheromone worked out quite well last night. I opened four sets of women and I was pleased with their initial reaction. Three out of 4 approaches went well.

Approach #1  
Group of four women at bar. I ordered my drink and saw one of the women make a quick glance in my direction as I ordered my drink. Once I paid for my drink I tapped her on the shoulder and she immediately turned around and started talking to me. She pressed her boob into me as she talked.

Approach #2  
Girl by herself. I approached her and she and a friendly look on her face but kept on looking at her phone so I took that a sign to go away and I politely excused myself.

Approach #3  
Walked up to 2 women and one of them stared at me and immediately asked my name. We talked and dirty danced a little bit. She rubbed by chest as we were talking.

Approach #4  
3 women out at girls night out. I struck up a brief conversation with them and they were all incredibly friendly to me. There was no sign of sexual attraction from any of them yet they all seemed to enjoy my company during the brief conversation.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/125 "2011-05-29T00:27:48Z")

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Bad cold approaches, great night

1 Spray NPA 24:7 to Throat  
1 Spray TUTH to Throat  
1 Spray TUTH to Stomach  
2 Drops of A314 to Wrists  
The Beat Cover

I did a ton of cold approaches and got shot down left and right. For a little while last night I felt totally unattractive. I might have been coming across borderline creepy too - not good. But a few good things happened too.

1. A girl approaches me and starts dirty dancing with me. I propositioned her to go home with me and she turned me down.

2. I said hi to a girl as I walked by her and she stopped and was immediately into me. We were making out within a minute or two.

3. Met a girl as I was walking through the bar. I saw her look at me and I walked up to her. She faced away and shoved her ass into me and we started grinding together. A couple of hours later we were in my bedroom.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/126 "2011-05-29T14:17:36Z")

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Makeout with hottest woman in my life

1 Spray NPA 24:7 to Throat  
1 Spray TUTH to Throat  
1 Spray TUTH to Stomach  
1 Spras of IS 4X to the back  
2 Drops of A314 to Wrists  
The Beat Cover

The night started off getting shot down by a few average looking women. I cold approached them and they wanted nothing to do with me.

After I went to the bathroom, I walked by this large circle of woman dancing in place. I picked the hottest one thinking I had absolutely no chance at all. I touched her shoulder and started talking to her. She immediately showed interest and everything went smoothly from there. I ended up dancing and kissing her for over an hour. When it was clear that she could not leave her group of friends to go home with me, I decided to take off. She seemed sad that I was leaving and gave me one last good bye kiss.

I went to a few more bars and did more cold approaches and none of them went well. I was still happy about how the night went.

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**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/127 "2011-05-29T20:01:20Z")

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> [@metalTree](#):
>
> 1 Spray NPA 24:7 to Throat  
> 1 Spray TUTH to Throat  
> 1 Spray TUTH to Stomach  
> 1 Spras of IS 4X to the back  
> 2 Drops of A314 to Wrists  
> The Beat Cover
> 
> The night started off getting shot down by a few average looking women. I cold approached them and they wanted nothing to do with me.
> 
> After I went to the bathroom, I walked by this large circle of woman dancing in place. I picked the hottest one thinking I had absolutely no chance at all. I touched her shoulder and started talking to her. She immediately showed interest and everything went smoothly from there. I ended up dancing and kissing her for over an hour. When it was clear that she could not leave her group of friends to go home with me, I decided to take off. She seemed sad that I was leaving and gave me one last good bye kiss.
> 
> I went to a few more bars and did more cold approaches and none of them went well. I was still happy about how the night went.

why did you not get her number?

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/128 "2011-05-29T21:04:15Z")

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> [@smellymen2002](#):
>
> why did you not get her number?

I did exchange numbers with her about a half hour before I left her but it won’t do much good. The problem is that she is from out of town and leaving tomorrow. On top of that I’m feeling dead tired from a lack of sleep.

The important thing is that if I can attract a woman that good looking once, I can do it again. I’m going to rest up this week and start over next weekend using the same pheromones.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/129 "2011-06-01T23:48:58Z")

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> [@metalTree](#):
>
> I did exchange numbers with her about a half hour before I left her but it won’t do much good. The problem is that she is from out of town and leaving tomorrow. On top of that I’m feeling dead tired from a lack of sleep.
> 
> The important thing is that if I can attract a woman that good looking once, I can do it again. I’m going to rest up this week and start over next weekend using the same pheromones.

It could be a problem if you look at it that way. Perhaps your tiredness and not hooking up just saved you from a potentially harmful situation. Great to hear you got the digits all the same though 🙂

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/130 "2011-06-02T20:36:27Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> It could be a problem if you look at it that way. Perhaps your tiredness and not hooking up just saved you from a potentially harmful situation. Great to hear you got the digits all the same though 🙂

I wish I had been able to hook up with her. At least I have a taste of what’s possible. 🙂

I think I’m making progress though. A year ago I would not have been able to dance with her or kiss her.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/131 "2011-06-04T18:40:46Z")

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P79 Jerkified Mix with awkward moments but great ending

1 Spray NPA 24:7 to Throat  
1 Spray TUTH to Throat  
1 Spray P79 20mcg to chest  
1 Spray TUTH to Stomach  
1 Spras of IS 4X to the back  
2 Drops of A314 to Wrists  
The Beat Cover

Last night I added P79 to the last pheromone combination I used last weekend. The addition of P79 made the mix behave like [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). There were some strange reactions from women of a type that I usually only see when wearing Instant Jerk.

I saw one girl glance at me a few times so I walked over and talked to her. She initially liked me and introduced me to all her friends. Her friends liked me too. I was hitting on her and at first she was really receptive. Then she sort of became distant and kind of froze. The she said that she had to go to the bathroom and bolted away. That is a reaction that I have only seen in the past with Instant Jerk.

On the dance floor these two girls ran up to me. One stood in front of me, the other stood behind me and they started to grind me. Then after like a half minute they bolted away. A few minutes later they came back and started grinding me again but after 15 seconds or so they bolted away again. Again, that is female behavior I have only previously seen with Instant Jerk.

Another girl gave me a few glances so I went up to her and stared dancing with her. But after a very short while she changed her mind and disengaged.

This mix was obviously attracting women and repelling them at the same time. I did a ton of cold approaches. There were quite a few outright rejections of course. But there were a few times where I would approach a woman and have conversation but in the middle of the conversation she would just sort of go silent. The woman wouldn’t reject me or continue the conversation. She would just sort of freeze up and I would awkwardly say nice meeting you and leave.

My last approach was a warm approach. She gave me a seductive look and I walked over. We chatted briefly and I kissed her after a few minutes. She took over from there and made it clear to me and to her friends that she wanted to go home with me. A half hour later we were in my bedroom.

This combination was both good and bad. The mix can obviously arouse some women and make them want me badly. But the mix also made some women uncomfortable. I’m thinking about trying it out again but buffering with IO or TAC or maybe both.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/132 "2011-06-05T20:57:42Z")

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Adding IO and TAC to the mix did no good at all - made mix worse

1 Spray NPA 24:7 to Throat  
1 Spray TUTH to Throat  
1 Spray IO to Throat  
1 Spray P79 20mcg to chest  
1 Spray TAC 20mcg to chest  
1 Spray TUTH to Stomach  
1 Sprays of IS 4X to the back  
2 Drops of A314 to Wrists  
The Beat Cover

Same mix as Friday night but with the addition of IO and TAC.

Nothing good happened. Although a few of the girls I talked to seemed to like me initially none of the women I spoke to seemed attracted to me at all. No bizzare reactions from women with this combination. Seems like the TAC/IO buffered the good and bad right out of the mix.

This mix would be on par with going out without any pheromones on at all. No better, no worse.

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**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/133 "2011-06-06T17:34:55Z")

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> [@metalTree](#):
>
> 1 Spray NPA 24:7 to Throat  
> 1 Spray TUTH to Throat  
> 1 Spray P79 20mcg to chest  
> 1 Spray TUTH to Stomach  
> 1 Spras of IS 4X to the back  
> 2 Drops of A314 to Wrists  
> The Beat Cover
> 
> Last night I added P79 to the last pheromone combination I used last weekend. The addition of P79 made the mix behave like Instant Jerk. There were some strange reactions from women of a type that I usually only see when wearing Instant Jerk.
> 
> I saw one girl glance at me a few times so I walked over and talked to her. She initially liked me and introduced me to all her friends. Her friends liked me too. I was hitting on her and at first she was really receptive. Then she sort of became distant and kind of froze. The she said that she had to go to the bathroom and bolted away. That is a reaction that I have only seen in the past with Instant Jerk.
> 
> On the dance floor these two girls ran up to me. One stood in front of me, the other stood behind me and they started to grind me. Then after like a half minute they bolted away. A few minutes later they came back and started grinding me again but after 15 seconds or so they bolted away again. Again, that is female behavior I have only previously seen with Instant Jerk.
> 
> Another girl gave me a few glances so I went up to her and stared dancing with her. But after a very short while she changed her mind and disengaged.
> 
> This mix was obviously attracting women and repelling them at the same time. I did a ton of cold approaches. There were quite a few outright rejections of course. But there were a few times where I would approach a woman and have conversation but in the middle of the conversation she would just sort of go silent. The woman wouldn’t reject me or continue the conversation. She would just sort of freeze up and I would awkwardly say nice meeting you and leave.
> 
> My last approach was a warm approach. She gave me a seductive look and I walked over. We chatted briefly and I kissed her after a few minutes. She took over from there and made it clear to me and to her friends that she wanted to go home with me. A half hour later we were in my bedroom.
> 
> This combination was both good and bad. The mix can obviously arouse some women and make them want me badly. But the mix also made some women uncomfortable. I’m thinking about trying it out again but buffering with IO or TAC or maybe both.

Iv had similar experiences with heavy none and p79, iv actually kiss closed a girl who moments after the kiss became suddenly repelled by me , I figured out p79 is best kept a 5mcg when used with a lot of none just to steer it other wise the combination is to much for most girls under 30

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/134 "2011-06-06T21:48:44Z")

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Whoa man!! Since i’ve commented on this thread you are still going with such wild heavy mixes 😃!  
Honestly I think you are not getting the results you are looking for because you use a lot of pheromones at once without even testing some by theirselves, thus sending conflict signals. Seriously simple mixes work the best! Last report you used **8** DIFFERENT pheromones.. that by itself is confusing to US, pheromone users 😃 .

No one here can predict results with such heavy mixes especially that you have putative and experimones in there + one that’s from a totally different company. All I what I comment on is 2x TUTH + 2 drops A314 + P79 + NPA wont be buffered well easily.

TUTH seems to make you appear way too pushy for a lot of girls. Why use at least 2 sprays when going out? A314 is for work and more business environment… it might suck for you socially just like it does to me. 20mcg P79 pushes everything over the top an extra notch or three :o

Less is more when it comes for pheromones… trust me on this and I need to even tell that to myself because I seriously saw some solid hits when using simple mixes. and i still get tempted to use more 😛

For club settings, stick with Ammo, IS, IO, IH, IG, may be one drop A314. You’ve got nothing to loose, try it and report back 😉

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/135 "2011-06-07T20:55:32Z")

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> [@THE\_GHOST](#):
>
> Iv had similar experiences with heavy none and p79, iv actually kiss closed a girl who moments after the kiss became suddenly repelled by me , I figured out p79 is best kept a 5mcg when used with a lot of none just to steer it other wise the combination is to much for most girls under 30

P79 is definitely playing with fire. I’ll still use it once in a while.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/136 "2011-06-07T21:01:39Z")

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> [@PheroJack](#):
>
> Whoa man!! Since i’ve commented on this thread you are still going with such wild heavy mixes 😃!  
> Honestly I think you are not getting the results you are looking for because you use a lot of pheromones at once without even testing some by theirselves, thus sending conflict signals. Seriously simple mixes work the best! Last report you used **8** DIFFERENT pheromones.. that by itself is confusing to US, pheromone users 😃 .
> 
> No one here can predict results with such heavy mixes especially that you have putative and experimones in there + one that’s from a totally different company. All I what I comment on is 2x TUTH + 2 drops A314 + P79 + NPA wont be buffered well easily.
> 
> TUTH seems to make you appear way too pushy for a lot of girls. Why use at least 2 sprays when going out? A314 is for work and more business environment… it might suck for you socially just like it does to me. 20mcg P79 pushes everything over the top an extra notch or three :o
> 
> Less is more when it comes for pheromones… trust me on this and I need to even tell that to myself because I seriously saw some solid hits when using simple mixes. and i still get tempted to use more 😛
> 
> For club settings, stick with Ammo, IS, IO, IH, IG, may be one drop A314. You’ve got nothing to loose, try it and report back 😉

I know all the theory but I like playing with conflicting and wild heavy mixes. I’m not going to stop anytime soon. 🙂

I just post my results here so others can see what happens (both good and bad) with these crazy conflicting wild mixes.

I know less is more and that would probably be better in many ways but that would be so much less exciting. Not knowing what will happen is where a lot of the fun is. Sure, having bad nights out will be a price I pay for doing this but I don’t mind.

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/137 "2011-06-08T04:06:28Z")

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> [@metalTree](#):
>
> I know all the theory but I like playing with conflicting and wild heavy mixes. I’m not going to stop anytime soon. 🙂
> 
> I just post my results here so others can see what happens (both good and bad) with these crazy conflicting wild mixes.
> 
> I know less is more and that would probably be better in many ways but that would be so much less exciting. Not knowing what will happen is where a lot of the fun is. Sure, having bad nights out will be a price I pay for doing this but I don’t mind.

I won’t disagree with your decision and you are certainly free to do whatever you want of course 🙂

However, just the last thing I wanted to say is I doubt it very much that anyone will learn anything from these unbalanced heavy mixes for the simple reason that they just never (or rarely) worked with you :o

How is it beneficial for others or the company when we know (and you do too) that mixes like the ones you are using don’t produce desired results?

Of course there is an excitement and the joy of curiosity when testing these mixes, but there are some fundamental known facts, that if not followed, it will produce undesired results no matter what. 🙄 Example: heavy -none will result in bad reaction from both girls and guys. Ignore this and you won’t even be able to pinpoint what the other molecules used did to your mix. The reason why I used this example specifically is because you use TUTH ALOT… and.. you say that you get rejected… A LOT too. In bars and clubs, basic PUA knowledge should be known. Mystery Method states that there are three main stages to bed hot women: attraction, comfort and seduction. In that specific order. Spray 2 sprays TUTH and guess what? You are starting with seduction. When you get a good reaction when doing this, you get what Mystery calls “fool’s mate”.

Let’s take a quick look at these recent reports for example:

> [@metalTree](#):
>
> **1 Spray NPA 24:7 to Throat  
> 1 Spray TUTH to Throat**  
> 1 Spray IO to Throat  
> **1 Spray P79 20mcg to chest**  
> 1 Spray TAC 20mcg to chest  
> **1 Spray TUTH to Stomach**  
> 1 Sprays of IS 4X to the back  
> 2 Drops of A314 to Wrists  
> The Beat Cover
> 
> Same mix as Friday night but with the addition of IO and TAC.
> 
> **Nothing good happened. \*\* Although a few of the girls I talked to seemed to like me initially** none of the women I spoke to seemed attracted to me at all. \*\* No bizzare reactions from women with this combination. Seems like the TAC/IO buffered the good and bad right out of the mix.
> 
> This mix would be on par with going out without any pheromones on at all. No better, no worse.

> [@metalTree](#):
>
> 1 Spray NPA 24:7 to Throat  
> **1 Spray TUTH to Throat  
> 1 Spray P79 20mcg to chest  
> 1 Spray TUTH to Stomach**  
> 1 Spras of IS 4X to the back  
> 2 Drops of A314 to Wrists  
> The Beat Cover
> 
> Last night I added P79 to the last pheromone combination I used last weekend. The addition of P79 made the mix behave like Instant Jerk. There were some strange reactions from women of a type that I usually only see when wearing Instant Jerk.
> 
> I saw one girl glance at me a few times so I walked over and talked to her. She initially liked me and introduced me to all her friends. Her friends liked me too. I was hitting on her and at first she was really receptive. Then s **he sort of became distant and kind of froze**. The she said that she had to go to the bathroom and **bolted away**. That is a reaction that I have only seen in the past with Instant Jerk.
> 
> On the dance floor these two girls ran up to me. One stood in front of me, the other stood behind me and they started to grind me. Then after like a half minute **they bolted away**. A few minutes later they came back and started grinding me again but after 15 seconds or so they **bolted away again**. Again, that is female behavior I have only previously seen with Instant Jerk.
> 
> Another girl gave me a few glances so I went up to her and stared dancing with her. But after a very short while she changed **her mind and disengaged.**
> 
> This mix was obviously attracting women and repelling them at the same time. I did a ton of cold approaches. There were **quite a few outright rejections of course**. But there were a few times where I would approach a woman and have conversation but in the middle of the conversation she would just sort of go silent. The woman wouldn’t reject me or continue the conversation. **She would just sort of freeze up** and I would awkwardly say nice meeting you and leave.
> 
> My last approach was a warm approach. She gave me a seductive look and I walked over. We chatted briefly and I kissed her after a few minutes. She took over from there and made it clear to me and to her friends that she wanted to go home with me. **A half hour later we were in my bedroom**.
> 
> This combination was both good and bad. The mix can obviously arouse some women and make them want me badly. But the mix also made some women uncomfortable. I’m thinking about trying it out again but buffering with IO or TAC or maybe both.

> [@metalTree](#):
>
> 1 Spray NPA 24:7 to Throat  
> **1 Spray TUTH to Throat  
> 1 Spray TUTH to Stomach**  
> 1 Spras of IS 4X to the back  
> 2 Drops of A314 to Wrists  
> The Beat Cover
> 
> The night started off getting **shot down by a few average looking women**. I cold approached them and they wanted nothing to do with me.
> 
> After I went to the bathroom, I walked by this large circle of woman dancing in place. I picked the hottest one thinking I had absolutely no chance at all. I touched her shoulder and started talking to her. She immediately showed interest and everything went smoothly from there. **I ended up dancing and kissing her for over an hour**. When it was clear that she could not leave her group of friends to go home with me, I decided to take off. She seemed sad that I was leaving and gave me one last good bye kiss.
> 
> I went to a few more bars and did more cold approaches and **none of them went well**. I was still happy about how the night went.

> [@metalTree](#):
>
> **1 spray Instant Jerk to my stomach**  
> **1 Spray of Tuth2x to my throat**  
> **1 spray of P83 (25 mcg) to my chest**  
> 1 Drop A314 to my wrists
> 
> **Not approached by any women. No make outs. No noticeable hits. Nothing.**
> 
> I did a lot of approaches and none of them stuck. The women generally were comfortable with me tonight but **not attracted to me.**
> 
> I had the feeling there was something slightly wrong with my vibe tonight. I was not coming across creepy or anything bad like that. I just had a slight background anxiety that was preventing me from being perceived as hot/sexy by women. I felt like any sexual attraction that the women would have felt from the IJ/TUTH/P83 was being negated by this slight background anxiety. I
> 
> It is very interesting how such minor sensations that we feel as men can have such a drastic affect on our attractiveness levels to women. Overall I just felt like a plain boring/non-sexy man that had nothing to offer to the women tonight. And that’s exactly how they reacted to me.

The reports in between where you used _less_ products you saw more positive reactions and hits. The things I highlighted in **bold** is what I put emphasis on.

Yet again, this is what I personally think and it’s entirely up to you to do whatever it takes to have fun 😉 My mere attempt to convince is for no reason other to get you more lays 😃

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/138 "2011-06-08T14:17:26Z")

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> [@PheroJack](#):
>
> However, just the last thing I wanted to say is I doubt it very much that anyone will learn anything from these unbalanced heavy mixes for the simple reason that they just never (or rarely) worked with you :o

Perhaps people will read my journal and be discouraged from using unbalanced heavy mixes.

> [@PheroJack](#):
>
> Mystery Method states that there are three main stages to bed hot women: attraction, comfort and seduction. In that specific order. Spray 2 sprays TUTH and guess what? You are starting with seduction. When you get a good reaction when doing this, you get what Mystery calls “fool’s mate”.

Yup, that’s what I’m going for - starting in the seduction phase in bars and going for fool’s mate lays or make-outs. I don’t want to be bothered with the attraction and comfort phases with women I meet in bars. I either want a woman who throws herself at me and acts like I’m the hottest guy she ever met or I want to go home alone. Sure, I go home alone most of the time and I don’t care. It’s thrilling on those rare occasions when a woman immediately wants me really bad and just throws herself at me. As a matter of fact, I like that so much, I’m willing to put up with many nights full of rejection to get it.

> [@PheroJack](#):
>
> My mere attempt to convince is for no reason other to get you more lays 😃

I very much appreciate that sentiment. I may evolve one day to the point where I start taking your advice. 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/139 "2011-06-22T03:36:07Z")

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Met hot girl at happy hour? Diluted Edge

Before I went out I filled half a togo bottle with The Edge unscented and half cologne. I wanted something weaker than normal and half strength edge seemed like a good idea.

I went to happy hour, ordered a whiskey, and drank it very slowly. After sitting there for about an hour and a half a very attractive woman sits a few chairs down. I make a few passing remarks to her. She makes a few passing remarks to me and asks me a few questions. Over time we move closer together. I noticed signs like her facing me and looking nervous around me. We moved closer and closer over time. Eventually, I went in for the kiss and we made out for a while.

I think 1/2 strength edge might be perfect for happy hours although I still will use stronger mixes for late night on the weekends. I remember there was a post a while back where pherophreak got an awesome hit where a hot woman approached him out of the blue with 1/2 spray of IJ.

Maybe these heavy hitters can be useful in day or happy hour situations at a reduced strength.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 12:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/140 "2011-06-30T12:43:28Z")

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MX391 - Wednesday Night - Promising but inconclusive

I decided to test **MX391** again despite my reservations about the overly strong scent. I only put on **one spray** this time because the scent is way to strong for more than one spray. Even with one spray, the cologne scent was stronger than I would have liked.

I initiated 3 conversations with women while at the bar sipping on a drink. All three woman showed definite interest in talking to me and chatted away.

The first woman I spoke to gave me the eyes of a woman attracted to me. Her eyes were glued on me the whole time she spoke to me and she definitely was attracted to me.

The 2nd and 3rd women I spoke to gave me pretty good eye contact as well and they may have been attracted to me but I couldn’t tell for sure. If they were attracted to me it wasn’t as obvious as the first woman.

Overall, this mix is very promising but I can’t tell for sure how effective it was because the two bars I went to last night weren’t that crowded and had a very laid back vibe. Woman are always more friendly in these environments compared to the crowded meat market environments I usually go to. But having 3 out of 3 woman show interest in me is very good and better than normal even at laid back bars. I just don’t know if this was a fluke or the magic of MX391. I’ll definitely test this mix again.

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