# Pheromone Newbie Advice - Was it good advice?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 24, 2006, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448 "2006-06-24T12:29:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/1 "2006-06-24T12:29:17Z")

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Yesterday a friend of mine was tellingme about his pheromone experiences after we got on the subject, and he said he had never seen any good results. I asked what he had, and it turned out he had Super Primal and another one I’d never heard of before, but they were both androstenone based, and he is (big surprise) blood type O. So, like me, he did not have good experiences with androstenone.

So, I sent him the new user coupon thingy and suggested he come here. I also told him about the various products and how well they work for me. He liked a few different things, but, given his past experiences, I suggested that he start off with something based on NOL - I suggested CTTM, not only because it’s both alpha and beta nol, but because it’s inexpensive. And, it’s one of those that you can OD on and really see that it works, without risking an adverse response from someone. I also figured it would give him a chance to learn to see how people respond to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), which would make A314 easier for him to grasp.

So…just wondering what you guys think… was this good advice?

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**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/2 "2006-06-24T14:12:10Z")

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Blood type Os are extremely sensitive to androstenone.That includes me for sure.  
Yes your advive is absolutely correct!  
Here’s the best place to be for him man!🙂

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/3 "2006-06-24T19:53:05Z")

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Well, I’m Type O and have had poor results from -none products even at age 55ish. On all ages of women.

“Mixes” like Chikara and AE seem to work better. Hope to try Ammunition one of these days. Currently am sticking to things like IFM, IShine, IH, and IO. Although I did pick up a low-dose (2.5) ExperiMone -none to experiment with. CTMM M2 maybe one of these days as well…

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/4 "2006-06-24T21:05:59Z")

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> [@Homura83](#):
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> Blood type Os are extremely sensitive to androstenone.That includes me for sure.  
> Yes your advive is absolutely correct!  
> Here’s the best place to be for him man!🙂

That this is the best place for him I have no doubt. I was just not sure that guiding him to CTTM as a first product was the best choice. He was planning to buy A314 and I thought it would help him to have more experience with pheromones.

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**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/5 "2006-06-24T21:55:46Z")

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> [@Homura83](#):
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> Blood type Os are extremely sensitive to androstenone.That includes me for sure.  
> Yes your advive is absolutely correct!  
> Here’s the best place to be for him man!🙂

Me too! I’m blood type-O & NPA/w could never work for me. It is manageable when I dilute 1:5.

Maybe we should try to categorize [pheromone](https://a314.com/) type to blood types, if it is possible.

I could identify individual females who are receptive to A1 but not to NONE & vice versa (receptive to NONE, EST). Those who are receptive to A1 also respond well to ANOL.

Groups (female)  
A1, ANOL (positive)  
EST, NONE (positive)  
EST, ANOL (positive)

Most males do not welcome A1, NONE. The other end loves EST, ANOL (opposite group)

Groups (male)  
A1, NONE (negative)  
EST, ANOL (positive)

EST seems to have a broader appeal to both sexes, especially when in combo with A314.

Notes I found online :  
A1 works on both male & female VNO, it is twice as strong in females as it is in males.  
EST works on both male & female VNO, it is four times as strong in males as it is in females.

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**Author:** ![noblelady](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noblelady/32/2391_2.png) [@noblelady](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/noblelady)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/6 "2006-06-25T05:50:38Z")

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My husband is A negative blood type, and is naturally very shy and reserved (dignified, but sweet)  
I’m O+ and have had good success with strong doses of IH and I love IShine and other. Would like to experiment withe more for him and stronger and different things to try out in personal and business situations

Tips appreciated!

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/7 "2006-06-25T06:02:01Z")

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I know blood type O naturally produces high amounts of androstenone, so we overdose on it readily. I don’t know what other blood types do.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/8 "2006-06-25T15:00:31Z")

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see all this facinates me, but i still dont get it. im an A blood type, and i havent a shy bone in my body. not even as a child. i intuitively feel there is something to this, but so far i dont fit in.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/9 "2006-06-25T15:09:38Z")

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As far as I can tell, blood type does not affect shyness, but it does seem to affect body chemistry significantly.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/10 "2006-06-25T15:27:22Z")

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Blood typing is just a convenient, nonracial genetic indicator… available to all.

It’s important to keep in mind that blood type correlations are imperfect, since genetics are actually more varied than you can express with a mere 4 blood types. (The American Redcross actually has identified more than 400 subtypes)

However, that doesn’t mean that it’s not more useful than not. Newtonian physics is still used due to convenience, even though Einstein’s work provides greater accuracy.

“The Blood Type Diet” from Dr. D’Adamo seems to work for far more people than it doesn’t. Having seen it work in as many cases as it does is what made start to catalog psychological and pheromonal attributes in regards to blood type.

Most Type Os I run into definitely tend to be more primal than most, and with a sort of raw energy. They also tend to gravitate toward meat heavy diets, since that’s what makes most Os naturally feel best.

Androstenone can definitely amplify the overall presence of Os into something that can appear to be threatening or even vicious. That’s why it seems that many Os do best with less -none, and better with pheromones that make them more approachable.

Just for fun, start asking people you know what their blood type is. After awhile, you should start to see patterns emerge. It’s both fun and fascinating.

(btw, everyone reading this should enter their blood type into their user profile)

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/11 "2006-06-25T16:47:03Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Blood typing is just a convenient, nonracial genetic indicator… available to all.
> 
> It’s important to keep in mind that blood type correlations are imperfect, since genetics are actually more varied than you can express with a mere 4 blood types. (The American Redcross actually has identified more than 400 subtypes)
> 
> However, that doesn’t mean that it’s not more useful than not. Newtonian physics is still used due to convenience, even though Einstein’s work provides greater accuracy.
> 
> “The Blood Type Diet” from Dr. D’Adamo seems to work for far more people than it doesn’t. Having seen it work in as many cases as it does is what made start to catalog psychological and pheromonal attributes in regards to blood type.
> 
> Most Type Os I run into definitely tend to be more primal than most, and with a sort of raw energy. They also tend to gravitate towards meat heavy diets.
> 
> Androstenone can definitely amplify the overall presence of Os into something that can appear to be threatening or even viscious. That’s why it seems that many Os do best with less -none, and better with pheromones that make them more approachable.
> 
> Just for fun, start asking people you know what their blood type is. After awhile, you should start to see patterns emerge. It’s both fun and fascinating.
> 
> (btw, everyone reading this should enter their blood type into their user profile)

“Hey, baby… what’s your… blood type?”

LOL Sounds like a great way to break the ice, hit on a woman, and make everybody laugh at the sametime. 😃

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/12 "2006-06-25T16:49:46Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> “Hey, baby… what’s your… blood type?”
> 
> LOL Sounds like a great way to break the ice, hit on a woman, and make everybody laugh at the sametime. 😃

It is! I’ve been caught saying exactly that (in a smarmy, funny manner – not with the delivery of one of those “more serious than thou” art vampires)

For a neg hit, you can follow up with “Well, that’s too bad… you’re just not my type!” Get 'em chasing you, for the most ridiculous reason on earth. 😉

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2006, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/13 "2006-06-26T07:51:24Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> It is! I’ve been caught saying exactly that (in a smarmy, funny manner – not with the delivery of one of those “more serious than thou” art vampires)
> 
> For a neg hit, you can follow up with “Well, that’s too bad… you’re just not my type!” Get 'em chasing you, for the most ridiculous reason on earth. 😉

lol I like it. Gotta use that. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2006, 11:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/14 "2006-06-26T11:11:59Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> lol I like it. Gotta use that. 😃

omg the way i look, people would take me seriously! no bloodtype jokes for me,lol.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/15 "2006-06-26T15:25:49Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> omg the way i look, people would take me seriously! no bloodtype jokes for me,lol.

_clears his throat and walks over confidently_

Hey there, Lor… what’s your… blood type? 😃

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/16 "2006-06-26T22:31:46Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> omg the way i look, people would take me seriously! no bloodtype jokes for me,lol.

How do you look?

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/17 "2006-06-27T01:04:41Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> omg the way i look, people would take me seriously! no bloodtype jokes for me,lol.

Maybe if you lost the black cape and didn’t show your pointy teeth?

And the Vlad the Impailer fan club button has to go too.

And the “Dracula Sucks” T-shirt…

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/18 "2006-06-27T02:26:55Z")

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you all work for the government, i know it.  
and i KNOW you aint dissin dracula…  
seriously,though, we no longer wear black capes… its patent leather.  
and im keeping the button.  
catlord17, your getting bit 😮

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/19 "2006-06-27T22:48:19Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> you all work for the government, i know it.

Well, I _used_ to…

> [@Lor](#):
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> and i KNOW you aint dissin dracula…  
> seriously,though, we no longer wear black capes… its patent leather.

So I noticed while watching Van Helsing

> [@Lor](#):
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> and im keeping the button.

Okay… be that way…

> [@Lor](#):
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> catlord17, your getting bit 😮

Ohhh catlord17, you lucky dog… er cat… you…

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-newbie-advice-was-it-good-advice/448/20 "2006-06-28T01:10:21Z")

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Catlord, what brought you to pick that name? Also what is your Camera setup? I’m not a photographer but I got a semi-decent camera

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