# Pheromone reactions/perceptions **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 1, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548 "2011-06-01T16:13:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/1 "2011-06-01T16:13:54Z")
I’ve been reading quite a bit in the forums lately and part of my research and learning, through my own tests and that of others have been the ongoing patterns in the community as a whole. There are many things out there that have reports that go along with the herd and some that contradict what everyone else is saying. With hype and the search for blatant results, many people seem to forget the power of subtlety. This leads me to what I’ve been trying to write up for quite some time now. Blatant vs Subtle results. I’ve noticed an ongoing pattern with the powerhouse blatant mixes that have been here on the forum. Namely some of them being Project UF, MX292/353, and some higher -none mixes that have been created by members here. These results are for all intents and purposes, very blatant and come sparingly. A lot of the results that these garner have been ONS or one time hookups with women. _ **They trigger primal reactions from women and have been hailed as some of the best because of the immediate quantifiable results that they bring** _. The overt results also have been harder to replicate on a consistent basis and can sometimes take weeks before another reaction can be registered. This is also why reports have the parts of it that says “when it its it hits hard” because the hits aren’t consistent enough because of the powerful reactions that they are trying to illicit. These mixes are loved by many and sought after by even more. However, based on personal experiences, these mixes aren’t the most conducive to what most members here look for, which is a healthy relationship, whether it be casual or LTR. Most of the subtle reactions you can get do come from the ones you least expect. It isn’t the Instant Jerk, or even the TUTH. Instant Shine, A314, Instant Honesty all have great effects in terms of the fallout scenarios that one can get. Like all good things in life, things take time and effort. What I’ve loved about this community is the ability to develop yourself and be able to make changes and as time comes keep adapting and adjusting. The subtitles of those changes are what you read about here in the forums where guys are so successful that you wonder if its the mones or them, well its both. The feel good and comfortable effects coupled with some good “game” (I use that term lightly because I’m not talking about canned routines but about the complete alpha mindset that comes with that “game”) they are able to land beautiful women almost at will, which is very interesting considering where many of these members started. My advice to newer users is that do not underestimate a product/combo because it isn’t giving you the outright hit at that moment in time. A lot of senior members here have repeated that same theory in one form or another. M&M’s statement about how “just because she ain’t showing you, doesn’t mean she ain’t feeling it” (close enough) is completely true. I can’t begin to tell you how true that is because I’ve learned about these things after the fact. I wanted to share this knowledge with you all because I believe that this is something that is so important to know and constantly realize that you need to go out there and pound it out, keep being yourself, and being comfortable, and the blatant hits won’t matter, because before you know it, you will be someone who is attractive and wanted. You will have that intimidation (good way) factor about you that if you ask for it, you will get it. A314 has been that standard for me which helped me out. It causes so much fallout that I can’t begin to tell you how many doors it opened both professionally and personally. It isn’t really until I started going back to basics that those subtle hits are some of the best you can get. I encourage the newer members to pay attention and work on their social skills and develop better perceptions of how women react. You will be surprised at how powerful self development is and how these can help out in the little subtle ways. For some of my thoughts on some of the products. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/): You all know I’m on the A314 bandwagon and I love using that, hands down, for pretty much all of the situations I encounter. However Instant Gentleman has that mysterious charming vibe about it. From what I’ve experienced on how women react to it, its akin to an attractive guy smiling at them, giving them that initial spark of interest, and him walking away as she wonders who that was and if she’ll bump into him again. I like to couple MX301 with this but since it really doesn’t exist anymore, I like a shot of TUTH with it and some Instant Honesty. I would only throw in the TUTH once you do get to know the woman. Honestly, haven’t used AMMO in months. I started again when I didn’t want to use any putatives or anything and this is really what inspired me to sit down and post because Gentlemen, AMMO, believe in it. It is awesome stuff and while I still have my favorite mixes, it is just so much more versatile that you can’t go wrong with it. I threw in some Instant Shine some days and those were some of the best fun I’ve had. You know my thoughts on A314 already so I’ll spare that, but just realize that the best results don’t neccesarily hit you in the face. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/2 "2011-06-01T21:10:06Z")
Other than my vote for TOTW and thanks the only thing I would suggest to add is to NOT focus on seeking any type of results during the day. I read countless reports and speak to just as many members bent on discovering results, looking around all the time, seeking out typical hits that others have reported on, that they completely miss everything that happens around them. A friend of mine who I hooked up with some mones some time ago and I went out to a mall one wintery afternoon. He had gone against my advice to not read up on them and did anyway. He knows my ability to talk to women and guys alike and was expecting that because he was wearing the same items as some of my reports, he would get the same results. We walked the mall for a good couple hours and what’s funny he kept telling me he didn’t see any hits. There was even a point when the girl at the food court behind the counter clearly wanted him to talk with her. She wasn’t playing with her hair, she was wearing a hair net. She wasn’t standing open she was behind a counter, she wasn’t adjusting her clothes or making other body language movements, but she did have a genuine smile and this look in her eyes that said it all. However instead of continuing with what potentially turned into a very nice opportunity for him (she was very cute, like marriage material) he just couldn’t be bothered with her, because he was to busy looking for the visible signs that we all report on! He walked away after a yeah thanks to a young lady who was like WTF just happened? When we sat down I asked him why he didn’t talk to her and he even said that he saw no reactions like we all report on. I was like the girl said hi to you and asked you your name. She didn’t ask me my name, she asked you. She had a huge smile and she looked at you like you were amazing. He was like yeah but she wasn’t playing with her hair or adjusting her clothes.:o When I go out and do my shenanigans with mones I do not look for anything. Jasmin has been saying it from the dawn of PheroTalk. Go about it with a clean slate. Just go out there and do what you normally do. Use the mones as a form of social lube and at the end of the day, reflect back on how things were so much smoother, easier. If you focus on everything that SUPPOSED to happen, you miss everything that DID happen. At the end of the day you’ll have that ah hah moment when you’re like wow that was neat-o. Don’t get caught up in the mindset of letting the results presented by others driving you, rather than you driving your own results. Now go out there and have some fun with life. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/3 "2011-06-01T21:16:34Z")
Oh and just in case you don’t believe me, read any report by the late great tacitus. I can assure you the man never reported anything that the rest of us reported on. His reports were his experiences all his own. He saw the world exactly as he wanted to. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/4 "2011-06-01T21:49:17Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Oh and just in case you don’t believe me, read any report by the late great tacitus. I can assure you the man never reported anything that the rest of us reported on. His reports were his experiences all his own. He saw the world exactly as he wanted to. I’m gonna Thank Mustang and Steve, here. I haven’t even bothered to journal the times that have gone by when I’ve worn the mones out and didn’t get blatant hits. There have been days when wearing the mones, they’ve just . . . _ **put a shine on my day** _ - in general. Like standing at the bus stop and the big guy in front smilingly lets me go first and apologized for ‘crowding me’; or the store discount I didn’t know about **silently** appears on my receipt - (with a big, beautiful smile) - which the 2 people in front **didn’t** get; the mother in line with a difficult kid, smiles, breaks the ice and guides her kid out of my way. I realised at the time they were hits, just didn’t think anyone would appreciate the subtlety. Don’t get me wrong - I love the blatant hits - who doesn’t? 😉 But for me, just getting a day done with minimal frownie faces coming at me (the weather here keeps people in a neutral to mildly cranky mood, overall); means more than some guy looking at me like a piece of meat and making comments on the street about my ass - which doesn’t happen as much as I’d like it to. So, **putting a shine on my day** - in a place where the sun don’t shine so often, is worth gold. On a dreary summer’s day, when the sun gets too tired to come out that often, a sunny smile makes my day. So, seriously; Thankyou Mustang and Steve. I’m using the mones to help flip the sometimes depressing business of day to day living. If I have to choose - that’s my choice. Relocating out of the sub-tropix to the PNW took some getting used to; these mones are helping me get back to the relentlessly happy person I used to be. I can live without the big hits. Just my experience, only my view; but as I said: worth gold to me. ---
**Author:** ![Fade1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fade1/32/1949_2.png) [@Fade1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fade1)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/5 "2011-06-01T22:38:01Z")
Great post, and this herd mentality you spoke of is the main reason I intend to do some blind testing on putatives soon. The power of suggestion is massive, and the desire to be an accepted member of a (this) community is even greater. I was extremely impressed with you admitting to not getting much from ICM 2.25 in your journal, P51, You could have easily went with the herd there. It doesn’t make it a bad mix. I also get a little ruffled up when people say a suggested mix doesn’t work or it a bad idea - that’s never true! The chemicals are only a fraction of the story, congruence is twice as important! You gotta BE the chemical signature. This is why IG + IJ is one of my favorites, I’m naturally a pretty suave, laid back kind of guy with a rep for quick scathing comments and putdowns. The phero signature fits me like a glove despite the mix not really being too popular. The reason instant hits are probably the most talked about is probably because, and correct me if I am wrong by all means, I reckon the largest portion of Androtics Direct’s customers are looking to get laid rather than all the other opportunities available. I think the greatest opportunity of all with these products is to shape yourself into someone you want to be. Gradually and slowly your persona will mirror the product until you barely need it to act like it. Those people who are adept at ‘switching’ personas, eg, for work, social, out with mates, out flirting, family events etc stand to benefit the most from these boosters in my opinion. Self improvement and development is the name of the game, not just picking up women. ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/6 "2011-06-01T23:18:32Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Oh and just in case you don’t believe me, read any report by the late great tacitus. I can assure you the man never reported anything that the rest of us reported on. His reports were his experiences all his own. He saw the world exactly as he wanted to. I miss tacitus. Who was it that put all his posts into a zip file? ---
**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/7 "2011-06-01T23:18:33Z")
Well well finally a post that I will nominate, it has been a while. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/8 "2011-06-02T20:37:03Z")
I forgot to add that, when you get up close and personal, things just go so much more smoothly that its almost like “wtf how did that just happen” (But in a good way) ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/9 "2011-06-03T05:51:06Z")
Excellent words of wisdom from Mustang and Steve. The issue about how preconceived notions might color or hinder honest discovery of the effects is very important. I would like to add or clarify that not looking isn’t the same as not seeing. As Steve said, by being to focused on actively LOOKING for this or that type of effect one might miss certain signs of hits that would otherwise be obvious. But if a guy is naturally the type of guy that doesn’t try to escalate or make a move unless the woman is so obvious that it would be more accurate to say SHE made the first move…this type of guy might spray on a great product or mix, get some real good signs of interest and not spot them because he interprets “not looking for” to mean “ignore”. Not the same. Be open and have a relaxed awareness. By now you should know the people in your general social circle well enough that you will notice changes in their behavior pretty easily. And you know yourself and how strangers in general react to you to notice changes in patterns of how the world reacts to you. Imagine walking through a forest obsessed with trying to find a berry…you could spend all day never finding one…that’s “looking” Or you could just relax your focus, take in all the green and then the bright red of a ripe bunch of berries will stand out pretty obviously…that’s “seeing” Along those lines, to expand on a point Mustang brought up. Some products or mixes are awesome, or may just be awesome for you. But try and remember, the people around you, friends, family members, coworkers and classmates have interacted with you and your natural mone signature for varying lengths of time that could range from a couple of weeks to your whole life. Many products will take longer to effect them than a single encounter. They have their own ideas of who you are and mones will most likely conflict with that. Give it time, try a product or mix out consistently for a couple of weeks and only then, look back and ask yourself if any of these people are acting differently toward you now than they did before you started. Those are the best kinds of changes. A great sex mix based on TuTH could get you laid. But so can a bottle of tequila on a good night. But with a fast reaction like that there’s always the possibility of buyers remorse after the fact. A slow burn change however is a more lasting change, meaning imo the more subtle effects are most likely to be the ones that are the most potentially life changing…for the positive of course. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/10 "2011-06-03T17:30:11Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Excellent words of wisdom from Mustang and Steve. The issue about how preconceived notions might color or hinder honest discovery of the effects is very important. I would like to add or clarify that not looking isn’t the same as not seeing. > As Steve said, by being to focused on actively LOOKING for this or that type of effect one might miss certain signs of hits that would otherwise be obvious. But if a guy is naturally the type of guy that doesn’t try to escalate or make a move unless the woman is so obvious that it would be more accurate to say SHE made the first move…this type of guy might spray on a great product or mix, get some real good signs of interest and not spot them because he interprets “not looking for” to mean “ignore”. Not the same. > Be open and have a relaxed awareness. By now you should know the people in your general social circle well enough that you will notice changes in their behavior pretty easily. And you know yourself and how strangers in general react to you to notice changes in patterns of how the world reacts to you. > > Imagine walking through a forest obsessed with trying to find a berry…you could spend all day never finding one…that’s “looking” > Or you could just relax your focus, take in all the green and then the bright red of a ripe bunch of berries will stand out pretty obviously…that’s “seeing” > > Along those lines, to expand on a point Mustang brought up. Some products or mixes are awesome, or may just be awesome for you. But try and remember, the people around you, friends, family members, coworkers and classmates have interacted with you and your natural mone signature for varying lengths of time that could range from a couple of weeks to your whole life. Many products will take longer to effect them than a single encounter. They have their own ideas of who you are and mones will most likely conflict with that. Give it time, try a product or mix out consistently for a couple of weeks and only then, look back and ask yourself if any of these people are acting differently toward you now than they did before you started. > > Those are the best kinds of changes. A great sex mix based on TuTH could get you laid. But so can a bottle of tequila on a good night. But with a fast reaction like that there’s always the possibility of buyers remorse after the fact. A slow burn change however is a more lasting change, meaning imo the more subtle effects are most likely to be the ones that are the most potentially life changing…for the positive of course. Thanks Rad, We both started using mones around the same time and for someone who has had awesome success with it, you are probably one of the few prime examples in this community who uses the tried and tested Consumer line and have great success with it. I took one path and started using more putatives, and you took another with that and we still ended up in pretty much awesome situations. The key here, for anyone who reads this, is that what Rad preaches, which I read pretty much all his posts, works so unbelieveably well because he lets the mones enrich his interaction, and isn’t defined by them (I know I stole that from mystery). And also it was a good elaboration by him about not ignoring but be more aware. Which in a pheromone sense (P80 10mcg, TAF 2.5mcg) I was at the gym yesterday, I was just testing stuff out after organizing my bottles, I actually ordered them in a way to make it easier for me to create combos on the fly so I know exactly what I’m looking at, but anyway I realized I was getting a “hit” with one of the girls there we were working out close to. I was at the gym, I don’t really get too many reactions from there, but I started noticing cues and I went in for the basic lead in for the next time i bump into her. Anyways, because I was open to it, and wasn’t just paying attention to girl 1 because girl 2 (cuter than 1) was talking to us too, I wouldn’t have realized an interest based hit off of girl 1 because I was too focused on girl 2. I’m not saying it was the TAF but it goes to show you that being always aware of everything will pay off. Even when talking to a group of girls, notice everything, don’t just pay attention to one or two, do it for all, it can be valuable in the long run. > [@Fade1](#): > > Great post, and this herd mentality you spoke of is the main reason I intend to do some blind testing on putatives soon. The power of suggestion is massive, and the desire to be an accepted member of a (this) community is even greater. I was extremely impressed with you admitting to not getting much from ICM 2.25 in your journal, P51, You could have easily went with the herd there. It doesn’t make it a bad mix. I also get a little ruffled up when people say a suggested mix doesn’t work or it a bad idea - that’s never true! The chemicals are only a fraction of the story, congruence is twice as important! You gotta BE the chemical signature. This is why IG + IJ is one of my favorites, I’m naturally a pretty suave, laid back kind of guy with a rep for quick scathing comments and putdowns. The phero signature fits me like a glove despite the mix not really being too popular. > > The reason instant hits are probably the most talked about is probably because, and correct me if I am wrong by all means, I reckon the largest portion of Androtics Direct’s customers are looking to get laid rather than all the other opportunities available. I think the greatest opportunity of all with these products is to shape yourself into someone you want to be. Gradually and slowly your persona will mirror the product until you barely need it to act like it. Those people who are adept at ‘switching’ personas, eg, for work, social, out with mates, out flirting, family events etc stand to benefit the most from these boosters in my opinion. Self improvement and development is the name of the game, not just picking up women. Look at part of what I said to Astrea as well. But yea that’s what most of us are looking for, when I first started my combo was AMMO with a refresher of TUTH every other hour at the bars and clubs. We all at a point wanted that, but now when you realize how awesome some of the other products are you realize they DO work better than some of the higher -none mixes. Just to give you a heads up on the “switching personas” I know it’s not exactly what you meant, for a lack of a better word, but my best advice to you, and what has helped me develop over the last year was working on me being principle centered instead of validation centered. I took a good and honest look at myself, and I evaluated my fears, my insecurities, and “personality flaws” and I proactively worked on them and was brutally honest with myself. Finding what is really true to you is something that can help in that improvement. Changing personas in my opinion is more of acting appropriately in the given situation rather than changing your actions against your own core self just to “blend in”. We can probably go on and on about this too, which would also be good because we can all learn from each other in that sense. > [@Astrea](#): > > I’m gonna Thank Mustang and Steve, here. I haven’t even bothered to journal the times that have gone by when I’ve worn the mones out and didn’t get blatant hits. > There have been days when wearing the mones, they’ve just . . . _ **put a shine on my day** _ - in general. Like standing at the bus stop and the big guy in front smilingly lets me go first and apologized for ‘crowding me’; or the store discount I didn’t know about **silently** appears on my receipt - (with a big, beautiful smile) - which the 2 people in front **didn’t** get; the mother in line with a difficult kid, smiles, breaks the ice and guides her kid out of my way. > > I realised at the time they were hits, just didn’t think anyone would appreciate the subtlety. Don’t get me wrong - I love the blatant hits - who doesn’t? 😉 But for me, just getting a day done with minimal frownie faces coming at me (the weather here keeps people in a neutral to mildly cranky mood, overall); means more than some guy looking at me like a piece of meat and making comments on the street about my ass - which doesn’t happen as much as I’d like it to. > > So, **putting a shine on my day** - in a place where the sun don’t shine so often, is worth gold. On a dreary summer’s day, when the sun gets too tired to come out that often, a sunny smile makes my day. > > So, seriously; Thankyou Mustang and Steve. I’m using the mones to help flip the sometimes depressing business of day to day living. If I have to choose - that’s my choice. Relocating out of the sub-tropix to the PNW took some getting used to; these mones are helping me get back to the relentlessly happy person I used to be. I can live without the big hits. > > Just my experience, only my view; but as I said: worth gold to me. A lot of what the purpose that Mike and Jasmin started APR was because they truly did want to make the people who use these products interact in a genuine sense of happiness. Call it whatever you like, I know there are many dissenting opinions on both sides of that mission statement but with posts and experiences like yours Astrea, I know that would put a smile on their faces and make the hard work that they put into this company well worth it in the end. With that sense, this is why AD doesn’t market the overly aggressive and over the top -none based mixes because of the negative reactions that can come from that. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) helps so many people out that it is surprising what the effects are on it. I just had a situation here at work that went from bad to good when I stepped in, it was because the self effects of it, and the effects on others helped diffuse the situation (was wearing IS x4, P80 10mcg). ---
**Author:** ![Fade1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fade1/32/1949_2.png) [@Fade1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fade1)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/11 "2011-06-03T21:32:42Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Look at part of what I said to Astrea as well. But yea that’s what most of us are looking for, when I first started my combo was AMMO with a refresher of TUTH every other hour at the bars and clubs. We all at a point wanted that, but now when you realize how awesome some of the other products are you realize they DO work better than some of the higher -none mixes. Just to give you a heads up on the “switching personas” I know it’s not exactly what you meant, for a lack of a better word, but my best advice to you, and what has helped me develop over the last year was working on me being principle centered instead of validation centered. I took a good and honest look at myself, and I evaluated my fears, my insecurities, and “personality flaws” and I proactively worked on them and was brutally honest with myself. Finding what is really true to you is something that can help in that improvement. Changing personas in my opinion is more of acting appropriately in the given situation rather than changing your actions against your own core self just to “blend in”. We can probably go on and on about this too, which would also be good because we can all learn from each other in that sense. Interesting point of view. While I feel perfectly ok with having a ‘core’ self and numerous fake faces for different situations, you seem to dislike the idea. I can see why, it’s not a brilliant character trait - being fake. I have always been adept at being a bit of a chameleon, mirroring another person’s mannerisms, language etc - I’m great at creating rapport and friends once the initial ice-breaker part is out of the way. It gets to the stage where I am turning different parts of me on/off for specific encounters. There are things in my core self I wish to improve with pheros, but many alternative modular parts of me which can gain their own boosts. I will think hard on what you’ve said and consider carefully how it applies to me, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-reactions-perceptions/50548/12 "2011-06-03T22:21:46Z")
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