# Pheromone Soap - Seems Contradictory

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 10, 2009, 8:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-soap-seems-contradictory/27908 "2009-04-10T08:41:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![warrior504th](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5fc32e/32.png) [@warrior504th](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/warrior504th)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-soap-seems-contradictory/27908/1 "2009-04-10T08:41:12Z")

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Hello, I’ve been a lurker here for some time and found almost every answer to my questions by a bit of clever searching or general browsing. However, I figured I’d sign up as I’ve not found an answer to this…

I’ve bumped into a Pheromone Bar Soap that seems quite contradictory to what I’ve read on [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). If you rub in a pheromone, and then rinse it off, wouldn’t that defeat the purpose/effect? Wouldn’t a soap mixed with a pheromone likewise affect the quality? The product is “Renegade” by Recomp Performance Nutrition containing Androstenone.

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-soap-seems-contradictory/27908/2 "2009-04-10T10:55:01Z")

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True, hm I might have to try it out just to see if this sucks like I think it may. Almost seems like instant OD too, but I’m surprised because supposedly the maker of this soap has something in it that makes it sink into your pores. 🙄

They’re also making a soap titled “Entice” for women which will include copulins and pheromones, interesting. All this info through some little research I did. Some are raving about it, but heh. It does sound contradictory. So as mentioned, I think I might try it plus it’s just around $7 bucks.

According to the maker of this soap: “It took us weeks to get it perfect, without overloading the **soap** (scents are oil-based, and the **soap** tries to expel it if it’s too much.) We used super penetrating soaps to get deep absorption of the scent and **pheromone** , which then slowly releases over hours - even after YOU stop smelling it.”

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> Hello, I’ve been a lurker here for some time and found almost every answer to my questions by a bit of clever searching or general browsing. However, I figured I’d sign up as I’ve not found an answer to this…
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> I’ve bumped into a Pheromone Bar Soap that seems quite contradictory to what I’ve read on pheromones. If you rub in a pheromone, and then rinse it off, wouldn’t that defeat the purpose/effect? Wouldn’t a soap mixed with a pheromone likewise affect the quality? The product is “Renegade” by Recomp Performance Nutrition containing Androstenone.

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**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-soap-seems-contradictory/27908/3 "2009-04-10T18:32:05Z")

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The [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) soap I saw was promoted by Ross Jeffries…so I automatically considered it a scam.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-soap-seems-contradictory/27908/4 "2009-04-10T19:36:19Z")

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> I’ve bumped into a Pheromone Bar Soap that seems quite contradictory to what I’ve read on pheromones. If you rub in a pheromone, and then rinse it off, wouldn’t that defeat the purpose/effect? Wouldn’t a soap mixed with a pheromone likewise affect the quality? The product is “Renegade” by Recomp Performance Nutrition containing Androstenone .

Surely you’ve used a soap or shampoo and noticed afterwards your hair and body smells like that product for many hours. So you really don’t rinse it all off. Your skin and hair absorb some of the molecules of the soap. In fact, even with careful rinsing a UV light will reveal a considerable amount of soap scum on your freshly showered body!

With the above said, I personally wouldn’t use androstenone impregnated soap. Why? They is no precise way of controlling dose, so you’ll either have too much or too little mones. The best way to deliver mones to to manually apply the exact amounts that work for you.

You’ve probably seen Realm deodorant and shampoo in department and fragrance stores. Realm (M) contains small amounts of EST so it would be difficult to OD. Plus it is designed to “relax” the wearer, so a very different purpose than “PUA” soap.
