# Pheromone University **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [July 9, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533 "2009-07-09T03:52:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/21 "2009-07-24T03:58:42Z")
So this morning i woke up for Six Flags early, and got on 2 sprays Ishine 2x 1 spray MX116 1 Spray [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 2x At the gas station getting some food for the trip, I told the lady working (she was in her 30’s) to get me 2 lucky scratch tickets. She said “Oh way to put the pressure on” really flirty. Then went on to add “If you win the $21,000 you gotta buy me a boob job, hows that sound honey?” Haha well in my mind I say “Wow, Hello MX116. I see you are quite active today”, but told the lady, “Ok, I definitely will, but you’ve gotta let me see what I paid for.” Oh man, the sexual tension. I didnt even like her, she is much too old for me, but I couldnt resist seizing the opportunity! She said well good luck then and winked. She also rung me up for tic tacs I didnt bring up to the counter, but I took them anyways because the transaction was already made. Oh, by the way- I didnt win a penny on the ticket. ☹ Anyways- I was spraying at the amusement park every few hours my ammo togo. Just a 2x spray as a refresher when I had an opportunity and felt the effects were too subtle. A few looks, a few double takes, nothing hugely optimistic. But then after being at the water park the chlorine in the water made me tired and told my friends I was going to dress back up and go eat. I ended up going alone. And getting sick from the food. I swear they do it so you have to go buy the overpriced stomach medicine at the first aid stand. Anyways that made me feel worse- but also made hits more noticeable. I wasn’t being congruent at all. I had people walking by, and then taking hugely obvious 180 degree turns to stare at me, confused, and almost disgusted. Perhaps because they thought they smelled someone they thought was better looking than this zombie they were now looking at! Even little kids. they seemed the most disgusted. Very odd. Lasted only a bit though until I regained composure. Another note: Power stacking the Ammo like I did made me the alpha male of the group. I lead, and the others followed behind me. I suggested- they agreed. Even things like, “I’m not gonna ride that ride you reallllly want to ride”… “Ok, its cool we wont do that then.” As we left, I saw them wanting to walk all the way around the guard rail of the parking lot. Would have taken at least 30 more seconds I didnt want to waste, So I quickly siezed my alpha power and cut a corner abruptly, and went over the rail. They followed as I expected. I loved having that power! ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/22 "2009-07-24T05:20:37Z")
you and i both had good days with mx116. ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/23 "2009-08-25T05:48:48Z")
Been a while, been trying out the PS series, Ive found 334 to be heavily social, I havent seen too much sexual to it, starting on 333 tomorrow. on another subject MX150- i wish this was still in stock- its a miracle pheromone. they say 149 was even better- its a shame they are never going to be made again. will hang on to that mix for while. 301 has been so awesome too, before PS, it was my primary mix. i just love it. been trying to think about creating some mixes of my own. we will see what happens. im up at college now though so this show is on the road. talk to you guys soon. ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/24 "2009-09-01T21:33:00Z")
Here is a mutual report for MX 302 301 292 203 116 150 334 333 and 332, Meo-est, TAC p74 p79, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), ammo, and shine. It is also an all inclusive study of sprays ranging between 1- 7 of every one of the products listed above. I’ve been using the consumers, P’s and T’s asd well in the same fashion, but I think this are the most important to speak of because they have been noted for their potency many times and should be the ones with the most results. I have gotten the same results with the rest of the products too however. So, the results? Nothing. I can’t honestly say anything spectacular has happened at any level of sprays that could not have happened if I had not had pheromones on. And to further the study, I have got the same exact results with the pheromones as I have on the days I took off from wearing them. They have not done anything to enhance my social/ work/ or sexual interactions with both males and females. I will also mention that I have played the outgoing charming guy role. I’ve played the asshole jerk. I’ve played the shy guy. Ive played myself. I have stopped thinking about wearing mones while I am out and about. I have thought about wearing them and using them to give me some extra placebo confidence. I have tried so many different variables I just can’t honestly say I have seen anything from mones at all. 7 sprays of turn up the heat. no one was angry with me, i wasn’t ghosted by any means, but in fact not a thing was different than if I wasnt wearing anything else at all. Ive simply been using them as cologne because I like neroli’s scent a lot. I easily pass by 50+ people daily. I easily talk to 20 people daily. I open most of them. And nothing is any different. I wish that was not the case, but these are my findings so far. Most of the “hits” I have mentioned in my previous posts were mere excitement of a whole new world, and if something cool happened, well it must have been pheromones that did it. stop wearing them, and the same kind of “hits” were occurring at a similar rate. Well what do you guys think? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/25 "2009-09-01T22:30:19Z")
What? Wow! Are we losing you? But you were one of the guys that was all into pheromones and was always welcoming new users, and also couldn’t wait for cat’s test pack! Is this the same guy? Well, maybe it’s better that you take a break, a long one at that because then I’m sure it’ll help you out to remember just how well pheromones did in fact impact your status. If not, that’s fine too. At least you shared a bit of the experience pheromones have to offer. But it still sucks, because that kind of makes it feel like everything you told the new users you welcomed were probably just a lie. 😕 If they are a placebo effect (not saying that I think they are) at least thanks to the intro reward points I’m only paying for shipping. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/26 "2009-09-02T03:54:41Z")
well man i did intros to help pay for the huge amount of pheromones i have, so that i could test them. and now that i have, i cant say i have found anything different. i really wished for it, but no luck. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/27 "2009-09-02T04:11:09Z")
I feel the same way as you sometimes man, sometimes I have my skeptic days. Honestly, I still consider my self skeptical only for my own sanity, but then there’s those days where you get a weird “hit” that just doesn’t happen at all or too often. At least with me, I’ve had days where I’ve been reconsidering the pheromones, but then something “weird” happens that just makes me think that _maybe_ they do work. But yeah, I understand that then this thought comes in “oh, it probably could’ve/would’ve happened without the mones if I weren’t wearing them.” So in a way pheromones are something we’ll possibly never have an answer to regarding if they work or not, because there’s so many factors that you can use to cancel out the thought that maybe they do work. I guess what I’m trying to say is that in a way we just have to have faith that they work, as I really don’t know if we’ll ever have an actual answer. But then think about it, is EVERYONE on this board crazy or lying when they post reviews or are we all having placebo effects? I don’t know, that’s a pretty huge amount of pheromone users who claim success so that’s another thing that keeps me positive. I mean, I know the reviews I’ve posted up have been true to the best of my knowledge, so I don’t know man. However, if you feel you need a break I say go for it, take some time to think about it. Stop wearing pheromones and see how things are without them, then one day try them out again and see if they truly make a change. > [@Mco-gnv](#): > > well man i did intros to help pay for the huge amount of pheromones i have, so that i could test them. and now that i have, i cant say i have found anything different. i really wished for it, but no luck. ---
**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/28 "2009-09-02T16:26:16Z")
> [@Mco-gnv](#): > > Most of the “hits” I have mentioned in my previous posts were mere excitement of a whole new world, and if something cool happened, well it must have been pheromones that did it. **stop wearing them, and the same kind of “hits” were occurring at a similar rate.** Well what do you guys think? I guess I am surprised to read your conclusion. I just have a question for you: Were you getting these “hits” before using the pheros? or do these start coming once you started using them? If you started getting the hits once you began using the products: Are you concluding now it was more a matter of the excitement you were putting out there more than the molecules themselves? Have you ever experienced self-effects from any of them? ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/29 "2009-09-02T18:02:46Z")
Mco, I am surprised, and yet not. I guess I’d assumed that you were having good success because you weren’t saying much otherwise, but looking back I see a lack of enthusiasm, like you were putting it on for our sakes. That’s okay, I’m just sorry about your lack of success and enjoyment. Thanks for being honest. That’s what this is all about, working through the experiments and posting what really happened. No pretenses, no apologies. So thanks for being real and not following a ‘party line’. There are a lot of times when I don’t bother reporting on what happened during any particular phero adventure, because there was nothing of note to report. I’ve gotten along with them far enough now that I only report highlights, or unusual results, or my findings with new pheros that I’m testing for the first time. Maybe you’ve gotten past the point where you get big self-effects from pheros, and you’re getting used the smaller hits that we see most often? Or perhaps the newness of college and everyone being self-focused and distracted as they begin the semester has dampened the hits you are getting. There comes a point, I think, when those who know us have equated us with the phero signature they’re used to getting from us. For example, if I were to wear a very sexy mix every day that you see me, and you got used to that signature, then even if I skipped a day you’d probably see me the same way. Or if I constantly wore IH, and then skipped a day, you’d probably still see me as someone who’s fairly easy to talk to, who you feel comfortable spilling it to. There is a distinct possibility that those you spend your time with have gotten used to your new signature and have stopped making big reactions to it. If I met someone for the first time who had a very high -none signature, I would take especial notice of him. Likewise if someone I knew suddenly had an increased -none signature, I would take especial notice of that. But if that same guy had a high -none signature for months on end, I would grow accustomed to it and would no longer take such notice of it, whether or not I was interested in him. It might work to your advantage to mix it up a little, or to back off completely for a while. I think Miko is right…take a break. A long one, if need be. Breathe, relax, do whatever you’d normally do. After a while load up on the -none and see if people respond to you differently. Or try something completely different. Want to try some female mixes? I’ve got some I don’t really want anymore, they’re not suited to me very well. I could send you something. Whatever you decide, you’ve made some friends here. We’re pulling for you, and just want you to be happy. ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/30 "2009-09-03T01:12:47Z")
But see moon whisper, I havent been using the same products daily to allow for that signature to be a constant. I think that it may have been the exctiement that gave me swagger and stuff, but now that I see its not getting me any hits or anything and being downright aggressive with some of the products and my behavior being very congruent, and still not seeing much of anything, its starting to make me feel very skeptical. Like, “why arent they working?!?!?!” and i know not to expect a landslide of hits, but even so nothing much at all has changed. I may have a slightly elevated social effects, but they could really all be dismissed if i really had to. Im not quitting just yet, i just thought i would let everyone know the frustration ive been going through with the whole thing. like i could write down how HB1 saw me and said hello, but thats hardly a hit. would have happened anyways. at least i smell good. i guess thats a plus. and V, no the only self effects I ever got were tired-ish. from all the products, figured it was the perfumers oil making me do that cause no matter the scent or mones in it, i still get tired-ish from them. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/31 "2009-09-03T01:49:17Z")
At least for me, I definitely see a difference. All I have to do is go to the local thrift store on Senior Discount Day. If I go phero free, I’ve got seniors bashing into me with their carts, running over my foot, giving me no personal space whatsoever. Two sprays of IG and they are oh so polite to me. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/32 "2009-09-03T01:57:27Z")
Well, don’t worry man, at least you didn’t spend much on these if you do sooner or later decide to quit pheromones. But we’re here for you, I have been there as well. Those days where you’re just meh with pheromones. So you’re not alone, but I do hope you feel better and get out of this pheromone rut somehow. Do you own IJ, Spaceland, IHx2 or IH x4, and A314? If you do, not trying to pimp out my little “mix” but I get great results (or what seems like results) with the following: Three or four drops of A314 Two sprays of IJ Two sprays of IHx2 (or one spray of IHx4) And two sprays of Spaceland It’s a “heavy” mix, so if this doesn’t get you moving then I hope something else does. As mentioned, I get good results from it so far. > [@Mco-gnv](#): > > But see moon whisper, I havent been using the same products daily to allow for that signature to be a constant. I think that it may have been the exctiement that gave me swagger and stuff, but now that I see its not getting me any hits or anything and being downright aggressive with some of the products and my behavior being very congruent, and still not seeing much of anything, its starting to make me feel very skeptical. Like, “why arent they working?!?!?!” and i know not to expect a landslide of hits, but even so nothing much at all has changed. I may have a slightly elevated social effects, but they could really all be dismissed if i really had to. > > Im not quitting just yet, i just thought i would let everyone know the frustration ive been going through with the whole thing. like i could write down how HB1 saw me and said hello, but thats hardly a hit. would have happened anyways. at least i smell good. i guess thats a plus. > > and V, no the only self effects I ever got were tired-ish. from all the products, figured it was the perfumers oil making me do that cause no matter the scent or mones in it, i still get tired-ish from them. ---
**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/33 "2009-09-03T02:10:52Z")
> [@Mco-gnv](#): > > the only self effects I ever got were tired-ish. from all the products, figured it was the perfumers oil making me do that cause no matter the scent or mones in it, i still get tired-ish from them. This is my hypothesis: pheros affect your neurotransmitters directly. They are teaching your whole body a behavioral lesson. At the same time they are sending others a concrete message that turns-on certain behavioral programs on them as well. I do get tired a lot with pheros as well. Not anymore as I used to. In the beginning I just felt this big craving to drink Coke. I have been more gentle to my body and now I am eating more fruit in the mornings and being more discipline with my vitamins. My explanation is that all those extra pheros are taking a toll from your bloods glucose to be processed and integrated by your body. As the above happens, your body and brain learn and that explains to me the reason why many have reported and increase in self-esteem and consistent phero like behavior (ex. confidence) even the days they are not wearing any pheros at all. Indeed, sometimes I have gotten my best hits the day after a strong phero cocktail even though that day I am phero naked. That is why I want to know if you have gotten any results at all at some point as it seems to me that you got them first and then stop getting them. If so, I put forth the above hypothesis as a potential explanation. In any case: What exactly would you like to get out of the use of pheros? and when I ask this I am really asking for how the kind of result you are aiming for looks like, feels likes, sounds like. What would be for you total and complete proof that pheros work? (or don’t work at all). ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/34 "2009-09-03T02:21:16Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > At least for me, I definitely see a difference. All I have to do is go to the local thrift store on Senior Discount Day. If I go phero free, I’ve got seniors bashing into me with their carts, running over my foot, giving me no personal space whatsoever. Two sprays of IG and they are oh so polite to me. Ha ha Snoopyace… I’m enjoying this mental picture of little old ladies running riot over you while trying to get their spring blouses at 10% off. Purely brutal. 😮😃 ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/35 "2009-09-03T02:22:59Z")
I wish we could all get together and go out sometime, wear our pheros and watch the magic happen. I wonder if we’d pick up on anything that you’re missing, Mco? ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/36 "2009-09-03T07:30:07Z")
i wish MW! ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/37 "2009-09-03T15:07:01Z")
Mco, are all the pheros you have listed in your signature block? I’m curious to know what you’re working with. I don’t see any from the Instant line, or others I figured you’d have. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/38 "2009-09-03T22:19:35Z")
i had similar feelings about the PS test pack. nothing worked for me. then catlord posted something in my journal about having to really work the mix in order to see results. this set off sort of an epiphany for me. we all know we have to work the mixes, and i’m not saying you haven’t been working your mixes. what worked for me was approaching the mix from a different perspective and “breaking the mold.” in my case, it was doing things i thought i could never get away with. i simply suggested doing something new in the bedroom with sarah and not 5 minutes later, it had happened. your version of “breaking the mold” will depend on your unique circumstances and environments. you say hb1 saying hi to you isn’t much of a hit. next time, do something crazy (within limits). don’t punch her in the face or anything, but in a situation like this, say something witty or introduce kino or whatever. if hb1 would have said hi to you anyway, then the pheros are sitting on the bench waiting to get out and work. by doing something crazy, you are allowing them to work or “work.” maybe hb1 responds well and the pheros worked; maybe nothing happens and the pheros didn’t “work.” try this a few times and see what happens. we can’t force anything to happen for you, but we’re all here wishing you the best of luck. ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/39 "2009-09-04T02:15:40Z")
> [@jayarea](#): > > do something crazy (within limits). don’t punch her in the face or anything, but in a situation like this, say something witty or introduce kino or whatever. 😮 LOL hahaha…is that a last ditch, desperate move or what? Thanks jayarea. ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533/40 "2009-09-05T20:52:43Z")
well i have been really thinking about it, and I am wrong. They are very sly working, and i just had to look at the whole picture to fully realize i have had a social avalanche pushed upon me since i started using them at college. I didnt fully realize this until i switched my primary mone from 301/302 to 292. I can really see why its considered so powerful, because it is. I mean even with the 301 and 2, I have had people coming up to me I dont even remeber and saying, “hey mco, whats up?” and Im like who are these people?? Perhaps I met them in drunkenness, and just dont remember, but something about me stuck with them. Like I am really popular in comparision to what I thought. and i even feel bad because I am THAT popular that i dont have the time or energy to really give detailed reports, but I havent really had much sexual hits, and have been flustered by that I suppose. And it sucks cause I lost my near full bottle of 292, and so im stuck with my 1/4 left bottle to ration. But yea MW i have been using the instant lines as well, and I do have them, if you look at the first page of my journal, you can see what I have in my arsenal. But yea jayarea, that really makes sense I should try to step out of bounds a bit, because everyone is taking well the normal, regular mco, so they are probably all open to even bigger better things now. thanks for the tips everyone. Ill be talking to you all soon. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-university/30533.md?page=3)