# Pheromone use in the military **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [December 21, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645 "2007-12-21T04:27:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![electronique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de0a6/32.png) [@electronique](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/electronique)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/1 "2007-12-21T04:27:16Z")
I know for a fact that the military (at least in Australia) uses [pheromones](https://a314.com/) for training special forces soldiers. They spray them and under the influence of the pheromones they are trained, their training is then next to useless unless the same spray is used on them as an activator. This is in particular for counter terrorism teams. Told to me by others who have experienced this first hand. I was wondering if such things as the fart bomb and gay bomb that the Americans are developing are similar concepts? ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/2 "2007-12-21T06:04:24Z")
Um, I think the fart bomb has already been invented. Also, not to mess up your scoop here, but I’d think it’d be awfully dicey to make an entire troop all useless unless sprayed with [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) on the face. I mean sometimes you have to fight at a moment’s notice. And what if you ran out? And what if they happened upon a civilian who was pumping out the wrong pheromone. Hasta la vista, I guess. That’d make for some weird post traumatic stress disorders. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 6:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/3 "2007-12-21T06:54:44Z")
> [@electronique](#): > > fart bomb These have been around for a loooooooong time… one goes off everytime I’m in a room with my brother-in-law! 😃 …well he did used to be in the military… ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/4 "2007-12-21T14:00:54Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > Also, not to mess up your scoop here, but I’d think it’d be awfully dicey to make an entire troop all useless unless sprayed with pheromone on the face. I mean sometimes you have to fight at a moment’s notice. And what if you ran out? And what if they happened upon a civilian who was pumping out the wrong pheromone. Hasta la vista, I guess. That’d make for some weird post traumatic stress disorders. Not if they’re heavily brainwashed and programmed which they must be. They’re most likely extensively hypnotized constantly overtly and covertly throughout the course of their training. This all goes on while exposed to pheromones in question which function as the mental trigger once programming is completed. If you want to further understand how this is reality, look for a British Show called “The Heist” by Derren Brown. Under\*\*\*\* the guise of a motivational speaker he tries to persuade a group of responsible, middle-management businessmen and women to steal £100,000 in an armed robbery. ---
**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/5 "2007-12-22T08:03:45Z")
I invented the fart bomb 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![electronique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de0a6/32.png) [@electronique](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/electronique)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/6 "2007-12-22T08:23:45Z")
Pheraoh that is exactly what I was led to believe. Also, for the person who wrote it sounds unlikely as they need to fight at a moments notice, I am talking about elite teams who prior prepare what they do and not conventional soldiers. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 9:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/7 "2007-12-22T09:55:30Z")
Okay, we all knows wat ah furt bomb is. 'N ah knows wat ah gay bum is. But wats da hay is dad burn gay bomb? ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 10:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/8 "2007-12-22T10:39:03Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Okay, we all knows wat ah furt bomb is. 'N ah knows wat ah gay bum is. But wats da hay is dad burn gay bomb? HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/9 "2007-12-30T21:11:06Z")
Ummmmmmm. I can tell you that this is urban myth at best. Trust me. If you think about it for a second, Kitten is correct. You could not have a group of highly trained commandos sitting around useless until you spray them with something. First think about sweating or washing (SEALS) the pheromones off of your face. Then think about deployment times, forward deployments, “sit and wait” times, instant follow-on missions, etc.. Then consider the SNAFU situation: “Oooopppps we forgot the pheromone. Can’t rescue anyone.” or Ooooppps we don’t have enough - we can only use half the team." or “Oooppps - ran out - can’t continue the mission.” or “Ooooppps - pheromones wore off in the middle of a firefight or mission. Sorry chaps.” No way. The violence control - ie. highly trained commandos only whacking their targets and not the first guy who cuts them off in traffic - is done through the rigorous physical and mental challenges of making it into these units along with the psychological testing that goes on at the same time. Spec Opns processing is done with weeding out Rambo in mind. These units want a professional in the field and “the guy next door” at home. Go out, do the mission, come home, hug the wife and kids, go about a “normal” life. Switch it on and off. It does not always work like that but it almost always does. But not because these guys are rendered inoperable because they don’t have a pheromone blast. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/10 "2007-12-30T23:49:11Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Ummmmmmm. I can tell you that this is urban myth at best. Trust me. > > If you think about it for a second, Kitten is correct. You could not have a group of highly trained commandos sitting around useless until you spray them with something. First think about sweating or washing (SEALS) the pheromones off of your face. Then think about deployment times, forward deployments, “sit and wait” times, instant follow-on missions, etc.. I beg to differ. It’s all about mental trigger. Once a trigger is initialized it remains active until the individual is deprogrammed. The pheromone would would only serve as a mental trigger. It doesn’t matter if the scent washes off or dissipates the mental trigger still remains active. If they are used as pawns IE: suicidal murderous commandos that will do anything to complete the objective they would be disposable and they would expect few to survive to be deprogrammed anyways. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/11 "2007-12-31T01:49:11Z")
Don’t know what to tell you, Electronique & Pheraoh, other than it does not happen in the US and I doubt it happens elsewhere. Your elite commandos are not a suicidal murderous group and using pheromones to switch training off and on - if it is possible - just isn’t practical. Nor are they pawns or disposable. That only happens in movies … or TV shows. The military is a dangerous business. The stakes are often in human lives and thus high. Some objectives have to be met and sometimes there are casualties. But no one is expendable or disposable. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/12 "2007-12-31T20:42:12Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > But no one is expendable or disposable. I always thought EVERYONE is expendable… ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/13 "2008-01-01T19:53:48Z")
Well … a couple people I know would have probably liked to dispose of me - lol. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/14 "2008-01-06T03:01:41Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > I always thought EVERYONE is expendable… That’s why they are there, and the politicians that decide these sorts of things are where they are. ---
**Author:** ![electronique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de0a6/32.png) [@electronique](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/electronique)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/15 "2008-01-06T06:42:32Z")
I am talking about highly elite, dressed head to toe in black, counter terrorism teams such as DELTA and the SAS. They are elite soldiers, but their specialist room clearing training is done under phero sprays, and when they need to go active, they get sprayed again. I know what I’m talking about here, told to me directly from people who have experienced it and I’ve seen it happen too. This isn’t normal special forces stuff, it’s the stuff where they plan for perhaps hours on the best way to do things, decide this is what they will do, get sprayed and then hit the building/compound/bunker. I’m not talking even conventional special forces tactics. I’m talking COUNTER TERRORISM tactics, room clearing and stuff like that. Like not normal room clearing that they are trained for such as MOUT, but real, hardcore, best of the best room clearing tactics. Like the most elite of the most elite. And they target people with a VNO for these programs. Some people actually do still have this organ. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/16 "2008-01-06T18:58:27Z")
> [@electronique](#): > > I know for a fact that the military (at least in Australia) uses pheromones for training special forces soldiers. > Told to me by others who have experienced this first hand. Here you say you know for a fact, because somebody told you. That cannot be guaranteed factual. And, if this were true, I find it very hard to believe that such an elite Special Forces member would share that information with you. I am sure that any mental programming, mind altering or activation programming would be considered highly sensitive. Special Ops members are chosen and trained on loyalties and abilities and sworn to secrecy, and I am almost poitive that type of disclosure would be a breach of security. > [@electronique](#): > > Pheraoh that is exactly what I was led to believe. Here you say you were led to believe, instead of I know for a fact. > [@electronique](#): > > I know what I’m talking about here, told to me directly from people who have experienced it and I’ve seen it happen too. And, here you say you’ve seen it happen. I am curious, how is it that you came to attend a super elite Special Ops briefing for a highly specialized counter terrorism mission, or were made privvy to observe such sensitive training. Sorry, I don’t buy it. There are better ways to go about mental programming. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/17 "2008-01-06T23:33:13Z")
Mark - you are right. It does not happen, but at this point I am only repeating what I have said before. ---
**Author:** ![Flippy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a5b964/32.png) [@Flippy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Flippy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/18 "2008-01-07T00:36:48Z")
It might be possible with the Delta forces or perhaps groups that don’t even exist. A lot of governments, or at least the US, have specialized troops to do stuff that will never have happened, and if they get caught doing that stuff, they are pretty much screwed. This kind of stuff doesn’t happen on as big of a scale as used to since technology like the internet makes it harder to cover stuff up, but it still happens. I know that this kind of stuff happens for a fact because my uncle was one of those people doing missions that didn’t exist after the Vietnam war. I am pretty sure he wasn’t put under pheromones or anything though since he was piloting an F4 dropping bombs on huts and shooting down MiGs after the war was officially over in places like Cambodia. A pilot losing his training midflight with a full payload might be a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![electronique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de0a6/32.png) [@electronique](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/electronique)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 7:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/19 "2008-01-07T07:24:12Z")
The first person who told me got kicked out of a counter terror team because he would not shoot effigies of his family, and thus was psychologically discharged. The second one was retired, from a similar unit and asked me where the fuck I heard that information. I was exposed to these sprays when undergoing psysiological and psychological testing for such a job. I was not told what was happening, I was just being sprayed in the face with certain substances which had drastic changes on my mood. Believe what you want. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645/20 "2008-01-07T19:41:39Z")
I actually know a US Special Ops soldier who says this is silly. That does not mean however that other nations are not doing the same. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-in-the-military/7645.md?page=2)