# Pheromone use outdoors **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 6, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-outdoors/61876 "2014-05-06T17:26:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-outdoors/61876/1 "2014-05-06T17:26:49Z")
Now that 7 months of winter in Chicago finally came to an end, I decided to get into some outdoors sports activities. So I joined interest groups that play sports in parks or go on hikes. Those groups have single women. So of course I’d want to use my pheromones 😉. I own Ammo Summer, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), and P91. I kind of know what each product does, although I’m open to suggestions. My real question is how well will pheromones work outdoors, and whether I should even bother using them in that location. Here are some things I want to know. Will the pheromones actually reach their intended targets? Does wind, sweat rate, temperature, and humidity affect how my pheromones will spread? Am I supposed to stand upwind from my intended targets? What applications points should I use differently than I would indoors? Should I use bug spray as cover, to avoid attracting wasps and mosquitoes? Which pheromones work well in outdoors sports contexts, and how many sprays? By the way, I just had a thought. It’s funny how we’re here learning how to utilize things like wind and humidity as dispersion tools for our pheromones, while animals know it automatically and do it by instinct. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-outdoors/61876/2 "2014-05-06T18:03:55Z")
> [@TheAttractor](#): > > My real question is how well will pheromones work outdoors, > > Will the pheromones actually reach their intended targets? > Does wind, sweat rate, temperature, and humidity affect how my pheromones will spread? > Am I supposed to stand upwind from my intended targets? > What applications points should I use differently than I would indoors? > Should I use bug spray as cover, to avoid attracting wasps and mosquitoes? > Which pheromones work well in outdoors sports contexts, and how many sprays? Pheros tend to do poorly outdoors. Due to the far greater air volume and movement, diffusion is vast and range/impact goes down to next to nothing. You need to work up-close and utilise any natural shelter to preserve some portion of a normal phero cloud. Using the prevailing wind also helps - and that applies to indoors too. 😉 Yes, all this affects phero use - Plenty threads on how to manage different conditions but broadly, the hotter/more humid, the faster the pheros diffuse off your skin and break down much faster. Sweat also complicates matters further by accelerating breakdown and washing pheros right off. Salt air in particular is vicious on pheros. Various things like shorter periods between topups, mixing into moisturiser/applying over lotion etc can help slow things down but TBH, oils are the best in hot/humid conditions. In colder conditions, its the opposite - Pheros last much longer but barely diffuse IME below 4C isn’t worth the bother till you get inside. App points - yes, use the ones that are least affected by sweat and most open to diffusion outdoors and in, and in colder conditions, use the ones with the best blood-flow to help maximise any diffusion - prod around for the warmest bits! Don’t use bug spray or many other aerosol skooshes - Many of them contain triclosan or other antibacterials/pesticides that will nuke your pheros most comprehensively. Good quality natural moisturisers will help slow diffusion and the lanolin in quality hand lotions will barrier the skin to breakdown, prolonging activity somewhat - but at the cost of a slight reduction in diffusion range. Personally I find it worthwhile even in temperate climes as it substantially increases the life of A314 oil and working close is always the best way with pheros - Stop looking for hits across a crowded room, unless its a boiling hotbox of a place! 😉 Sports - that tends to be an environment boiling with Androstenone, so whilst some guys do go for out-Noning everyone else and do well, I have found a more social mix can be more approachable and easier to strike-up conversations. We can’t tell you what dose as that is highly dependant on you own body chemistry, personality and social/situational factors. Doing the basic legwork and testing is the only way to find what suits you best. However, I will say that IME outdoors/sports/festivals etc tend to suit more basic, simple and direct pheros/mixes - leave the complex and nuanced stuff for later, when you move indoors. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-use-outdoors/61876/3 "2014-05-07T02:55:49Z")
Also, while it is generally not advised to spray pheros on hair, outdoors is one situation in which it might be helpful. It’s best if there is no product in your hair. If you must have product, try to use the minimal amount, and don’t apply pheros until it is thoroughly dried. It is best if there is no wind outside, because wind is your enemy. The less wind, the better. And the closer you are to your subjects, the better as well. Try to stay in close proximity.