# Pheromones and age **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 8, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501 "2009-07-08T00:00:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gruntbro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@gruntbro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gruntbro)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/1 "2009-07-08T00:00:47Z")
Hi… I am 63 years old, and basically still feel youger. I don’t necessarily want to use [pheromones](https://a314.com/) to make myself appear younger, but I would like to ask anyone with some experience: At my age, do I need -none? I can’t seem to understand exactly what -none is, but from some of the discussions I have read, too much or too little has a different effect on people. Can anyone tell me what it is, and at my age would I need more less of it? Thanks. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/2 "2009-07-08T00:09:03Z")
I’m no Master of Anone, but until one gets here: Its the attraction [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/), sexual based. Men over 30 do not produce as much of it as they did in their sexual prime (18-28) and therefore do not have that primal lust from women anymore. You would want over of it, because you aren’t producing as much as you used to. TUTH 's main ingredient is Anone. If you actually hover over the word, you can get a definition of it to come up. Hope this helps, -mco; ---
**Author:** ![otter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/898d66/32.png) [@otter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/otter)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/3 "2009-07-08T23:07:12Z")
> [@gruntbro](#): > > Hi… > I am 63 years old, and basically still feel youger. I don’t necessarily want to use pheromones to make myself appear younger, but I would like to ask anyone with some experience: At my age, do I need -none? I can’t seem to understand exactly what -none is, but from some of the discussions I have read, too much or too little has a different effect on people. Can anyone tell me what it is, and at my age would I need more less of it? > Thanks. 😕 find MtnJim, he is about youre age…Tisha23 and any senior tester will help you…🙂😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/4 "2009-07-13T20:13:55Z")
Yup, you’ll need ~none. Old codgers like us need “~none replacement therapy” to compete. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/5 "2009-07-14T03:41:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Men over 30 do not produce as much of it as they did in their sexual prime (18-28) and therefore do not have that primal lust from women anymore. Hmm, I certainly experienced way more “primal lust from women” in my 40s and 50s compared to my teens and 20s. And this is mainly from women much younger, e.g., 20s and 30s. I’m not saying mones aren’t significant, but they’re merely one component of attraction among many. And the right social status and lifestyle immediately spring to mind as major attractions to women despite low androstenone levels. If you’re weak in one area you can make up for it by excelling in others. With that said, I’ve found using androstenone products like NPA and TE really drive these women over the edge. All hail androstenone replacement therapy! ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/6 "2009-07-14T03:53:56Z")
There have been some studies that suggest that androstenone is a break-down of testosterone, and that androstenone is a pheromonal indicator of a man’s testosterone levels. High testoerone levels indicate a strong sex drive, and overall masculinity. Of course at high levels, testosterone/androstenone can portray a sense of aggression and intimidation. As testosterone levels fall with age, the pheromonal sense of masculinity likely falls as well. Androstenone won’t necessarily give you a ‘young guy’ vibe (androstenol and TAA do more of that), but it will help project the masculinity of a man who is sexually in his prime. (if that makes sense) ---
**Author:** ![gruntbro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@gruntbro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gruntbro)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/7 "2009-07-14T04:14:49Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Yup, you’ll need ~none. Old codgers like us need “~none replacement therapy” to compete. Appreciate the advice. I ordered some ~none today. What amount would you say to use, and should I mix it with anything?🙂 Thanks again ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/8 "2009-07-14T05:27:31Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > There have been some studies that suggest that androstenone is a break-down of testosterone, and that androstenone is a pheromonal indicator of a man’s testosterone levels. High testoerone levels indicate a strong sex drive, and overall masculinity. Those studies seem somewhat simplistic in findings. I suspect the connection between masculinity and androstenone is overstated. It is often said East Asian men have less androstenone than other racial groups. JVK writes about it in his “Scent of Eros” tome. I have personally observed that Korean men at the gym seem to have less odoriferous sweat (less natural androstenone) and are far less hairy than their White and Blacks brothers (less testosterone–less hair). Yes, I’m Korean and White guys have asked if I shave mah friggen legs! However, I can’t say Korean men are any less masculine, aggressive or horny. In fact, they’re among some of the masculine, aggressive, love to kick ass horndogs known to man. Certainly have hair trigger tempers! There must be other factors at work here besides androstenone or it would be difficult to explain 2 billion Chinese, the Mongol Empire or all those Korean men fist fighting in parking lots in Honolulu (I avoid drinking with other Korean men for that reason). ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/9 "2009-07-14T18:07:38Z")
> [@gruntbro](#): > > Appreciate the advice. I ordered some ~none today. What amount would you say to use, and should I mix it with anything?🙂 > Thanks again Don’t know because I don’t know what you ordered. ---
**Author:** ![gruntbro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@gruntbro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gruntbro)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/10 "2009-07-14T21:34:33Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Don’t know because I don’t know what you ordered. …good point! I did leave that little bit out, sorry. I ordered Experimone Androstenone Spray. Thanks!:o ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/11 "2009-07-14T21:41:55Z")
> [@gruntbro](#): > > I ordered Experimone Androstenone Spray. You might try a 50/50 mix with a cover scent in a togo bottle. ---
**Author:** ![gruntbro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@gruntbro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gruntbro)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/12 "2009-07-14T22:35:58Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > You might try a 50/50 mix with a cover scent in a togo bottle. Thanks! One more question. When you say “cover scent”, do you mean like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), Honesty, Openness or similar? (Hopefully that will be the last question!) Again thanks!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/13 "2009-07-14T23:27:12Z")
> [@gruntbro](#): > > When you say “cover scent”, do you mean like Instant Shine, Honesty, Openness or similar? Maybe, but I was thinking of after shave or perfume. To cover the ~none stank. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/14 "2009-07-15T04:01:11Z")
> [@gruntbro](#): > > …good point! I did leave that little bit out, sorry. > I ordered Experimone Androstenone Spray. > Thanks!:o Is it the lowest dose (2.5mcg)? If so, don’t dilute it. It’s already well diluted. Just spray a couple times to forearms and neck/chest and cover with cologne. If men, women and children flee, cut down to 1 spray and/or add androstenol to make it more friendly. ---
**Author:** ![gruntbro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@gruntbro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gruntbro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/15 "2009-07-15T16:13:55Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Is it the lowest dose (2.5mcg)? If so, don’t dilute it. It’s already well diluted. Just spray a couple times to forearms and neck/chest and cover with cologne. If men, women and children flee, cut down to 1 spray and/or add androstenol to make it more friendly. Thanks for the info. I ordered: ExperiMone™ Androstenone Spray 5mL To Go! 12.5 mcg/spray. I am hoping it arrives today! What dosage would you recommend with this? Thank you again, you guys are very helpful. As a newbie, I appreciate that!😃 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/16 "2009-07-15T16:31:06Z")
> [@gruntbro](#): > > Thanks for the info. I ordered: ExperiMone™ Androstenone Spray 5mL To Go! 12.5 mcg/spray. I am hoping it arrives today! What dosage would you recommend with this? > Thank you again, you guys are very helpful. As a newbie, I appreciate that!😃 Use one spray for about 7 days … IF you notice nothing … up it to 2, 3, and so on, until you see something out of the norm. Tis about experimenting and finding what works fer’ya. 😉 Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/17 "2009-07-15T17:58:40Z")
> [@gruntbro](#): > > Thanks for the info. I ordered: ExperiMone™ Androstenone Spray 5mL To Go! 12.5 mcg/spray. I am hoping it arrives today! What dosage would you recommend with this? > Thank you again, you guys are very helpful. As a newbie, I appreciate that!😃 One spray. 12.5mcg is a heck of a lot of -none. If it’s too much–and there is a good chance of that–consider transferring some to an atomizer with less output, e.g., a Sephora is about half as much. A Togo is 80% and won’t make much diff. ---
**Author:** ![gruntbro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@gruntbro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gruntbro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-age/30501/18 "2009-07-15T20:37:12Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > One spray. 12.5mcg is a heck of a lot of -none. If it’s too much–and there is a good chance of that–consider transferring some to an atomizer with less output, e.g., a Sephora is about half as much. A Togo is 80% and won’t make much diff. Thanks for the info. I’ll try it and watch the results!