# Pheromones and Clinical Depression **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [July 30, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-clinical-depression/51526 "2011-07-30T01:10:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Greenstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@Greenstar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Greenstar)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-clinical-depression/51526/1 "2011-07-30T01:10:22Z")
Hello y’all. Today I had an interesting thought that I would like to share with everyone and also get peoples opinions and maybe some more evidence to help me with this one. It involves the use of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) on and around those with clinical depression/bipolar/etc. Let me begin by what sparked this idea in my head. Today I went to see a friend I don’t see often, and she’s diagnosed with clinical depression. We usually get along just fine, enjoy hanging out and I am otherwise fairly accustomed to her regular behavior. She is typically kind of quiet, sometimes morose or melancholy, but sometimes she’s fairly normal, behavior-wise and conversation-wise. What happened today was kind of interesting so I thought I would share with everyone. So before we go out I hit myself with 2-3 shots of IS, to try and help her usually kinda down mood as well as put myself in a brighter, more vibrant one (to try and pass it along, ya dig?). Well I noticed that when we first got together she was in a fairly decent mood, but soon after started to get really down and extremely quiet, despite me being attempting to strike up much conversation. This was kind of odd because without any mones on typically I can get her to at least chat a bit. She was just in a super funk for several hours, barely even talking or looking at me, which again is very odd for her. A couple hours after that though, after much talking and being friendly and supportive, she seemed to do a complete 180 mood wise. She went from not talking or looking at me to being quite chatty, showing IOI’s (hair flips and close proximity. This wasnt even a date, just friends hanging out) and just generally being the happy person I know she can be. Needless to say this started to make me think that quite possibly pheromones that traditionally do one thing for someone with an otherwise healthy brain, that chemical imbalances could play a part in receiving and processing the pheromone signature incorrectly. This is the first somewhat negative reaction I have seen while using the IS (I will be doing much more testing of different molecules around this person and others). I am diagnosed bipolar, so this isn’t just something I will be studying on others. I want to see what kind of reactions people with different brain chemistry experience. So far, at least from the IS I haven’t noticed anything but the effects it was intended to produce. But then again its still early in my mone experiments. Has anyone else noticed anything similar (or very different for that matter) while using mones around people with clinical depression or any other psychological disorder? This is a very interesting topic for me as it has the potential to possibly open a whole new area of use for pheromone therapy, such as an anti-depressant, mood stabilizer, and self-motivator. Any input from the community is greatly appreciated 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-clinical-depression/51526/2 "2011-08-01T09:57:37Z")
> [@](#): > > Has anyone else noticed anything similar (or very different for that matter) while using [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) around people with clinical depression or any other psychological disorder? This is a very interesting topic for me as it has the potential to possibly open a whole new area of use for pheromone therapy, such as an anti-depressant, mood stabilizer, and self-motivator. Yes early on in the beginning of testing the creator of AD MHarris and other prominent mone dealers always stated if you have a clinical mental condition like clinical depression you should really not use mones or at least be extra vigilant in using them to check for adverse effects. Of course people ignored it though and you have many people with depression, Bipolar, ADD and other conditions using. There reaction tend to be different then those of people without such conditions. Its not that mones wont work for them its just something that may make me happy and upbeat may bring them down and something that has absolutely no effect on me may be the one that perks them up. Pheromones are not a tool for therapy though. Pherin pharmaceuticals working on a few for treatments but haven’t gotten far with it. Its not consistent. Here take a look \>\> Pherin Products I do believe they are in on the Sensa diet spray along with the Sense of smell institute though so they may have made some progress there. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 11:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-clinical-depression/51526/3 "2011-08-01T11:45:34Z")
> [@Greenstar](#): > > Has anyone else noticed anything similar (or very different for that matter) while using mones around people with clinical depression or any other psychological disorder? This is a very interesting topic for me as it has the potential to possibly open a whole new area of use for pheromone therapy, such as an anti-depressant, mood stabilizer, and self-motivator. TBH, somebody comes-on here with this “great” idea every few weeks. Then they usually report fantastic results with mega-doses (most usually of IS) which don’t sustain themselves for very long and come back and often call us all shits under the sun because they have become innured to the self effects or find themselves feeling drained from overuse. I’m afraid Tisha has it bang-on Greenstar. Pheros are **no replacement at all** for proper medical diagnosis and treatment, plus anyone looking to rely on pheros for an effective solution is going to find them no more than a short-term crutch. ---
**Author:** ![Strike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Strike](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Strike)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-clinical-depression/51526/4 "2011-08-15T18:02:39Z")
I have BPD and I also have no interest in thinking these pheros I’ve been testing should play a impact on helping with that particular disorder. Does it help me me become more confident than I’m use to, sure. But that is just the normal effects of the pheros as far as I can tell. Have I noticed a certain dose of a314 and IS slipping me into a state of depression? I have and I plan to keep testing to find out what dose combo it is. Which I think it was a314 with 1-2 and 1 IS. Which I still use my normal therapy methods along with the herbal depression/anxiety stuff I take and I am able to handle it if it happens again. Confidence and ability to communicate with people and women a bit easier is all I am aiming for. I do believe those with issues like bpd, bi polar, depression etc. Should really make sure they have a handle on their own situation prior to using pheros and I say thst from my own experience. Had I not known how to handle my own depression crisis, that depression I may have felt from the pheros could have really got to me. So, be careful. ---
**Author:** ![WalrusGumBoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/walrusgumboot/32/1300_2.png) [@WalrusGumBoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WalrusGumBoot)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-clinical-depression/51526/5 "2011-11-15T19:28:44Z")
This is actually an interesting thread because I am well versed in the field of psychology. Not formally educated in that field, but four intensive years of study to help me cope with my soon-to-be ex wife, who has Borderline Personality Disorder. Actually, she is most likely a Cluster B personality, which is a mix of Borderline, Histrionic, Anti-social, and Narcissistic Personality Disorders. One thing that is fairly obvious to me is that men who are Narcissistic (more men have this disorder than women) should not use [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). Their disorder tends to give them the traits already that IJ would enhance, making it a OD experience at the least, and potentially dangerous at the worst. Another thing I have thought about as I read the men’s journals, especially those clubbing, is the prevalence of borderline females in our society, which is much higher than is reported. It is much easier to diagnose a borderline as bipolar. Most therapists are hesitant to diagnose BPD because of their poor response to treatment. Anyway, I tend to believe that dance clubs are full of borderline females. They are very compulsive in self-destructive ways, including sex. It doesn’t even take mones to pick up a borderline female at a club for a night of sex, but the mones would probably make them the most aggressive and competitive to take home the prize. I guess the point is that I realize it will take some time to really find the sweet spots (I am just a newb at this) because different venues will have different proportions of so-called “normal” people and those that might suffer a personality disorder. I’m actually a co-dependent, according to my therapist. IJ would probably do me some good. ---
**Author:** ![lonewolfsr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@lonewolfsr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lonewolfsr)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-clinical-depression/51526/6 "2013-10-05T15:22:37Z")
Yes. I believe that you are correct in what you are seeing. The “excessive sexual energy”, a feature associated with most mood disorders, is a misnomer. The reality is that individuals having this personality feature often give off massive amounts of pheromones which can have an overwhelming or mutually intensive effect, depending on the situation. Pheromones given off by someone with an underlying mood disorder can and will effect other people with similar chemistry. A bipolar person who is emotionally upset can release pheromones which can trigger a similar emotional response in other individuals who share similar chemistry. I believe that in these situations, pheromonal releases can not only cause anger, domestic violence, and other at-risk behaviors, but can also influence suicidal behavior. Bipolar episodes can definitely be triggered by other individual’s pheromonal releases. At this point, I agree that the boundaries between borderline and bipolar or other mood disorders are often blurred; or many individuals may be both. In any case, the sexual energy that many enjoy may have hidden parameters or dynamics that we have yet to fully research and understand. ---
**Author:** ![chunkysoup79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@chunkysoup79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chunkysoup79)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-clinical-depression/51526/7 "2013-10-21T09:38:34Z")
Interesting theory. i am just beginning my research of pheromones and their effects, but i have to say that it makes sense that pheromones (especially too much) can have adverse effects on people with unbalanced brain chemicals. I’d also be willing to guess that people who take anti depressants or anti anxiety meds can also alter the effects of whatever mone you are using