# Pheromones and ethnicity: does a woman's ethnicity change her self-effects? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 5, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597 "2015-01-05T00:51:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FuzziKitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fuzzikitty/32/2431_2.png) [@FuzziKitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FuzziKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/1 "2015-01-05T00:51:13Z")
I’ve been researching and reading so much here that my eyes are going cross. Sorry if this has been discussed before , but I can’t seem to find any good answers that satisfy my curiosity. I have seen randomly here and there people mention possibly having different results from different ethnicities. My question is not so much about how the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) effect others but rather how the pheromones self effect . For example, I’m a bi Eastern European female. Would I have different self effect results than a bi Asian female would have ? I also understand that each person is different , personalities and naturally produced pheromones can vary. What I am attracted to might completely turn another bi female off. I’m just wondering if there are any statistics or findings regarding ethnicity. Thank you for reading. ---
**Author:** ![mascara\_mones](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mascara_mones/32/1510_2.png) [@mascara\_mones](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mascara_mones)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/2 "2015-01-05T03:08:43Z")
Full disclosure I am not the best one to answer this there are several members on here with a lot more knowledge then me. However from what I do know I would say yes the ethnicity and chemical balance of the individual wearing the pheromone affects it. I do not know to what degree and I would venture a guess that it varies widely from pheromone to pheromone. I am basing this on the wide range of doses people post getting self affects at and also some of my own observation. MC1R is the deciding brain if you will in the protein production of melanocortin 1 receptor which will produce melanin as either eumelanin or pheomelanin. This is thought to be the determining factor in hair color and skin pigmentation. So from a genetic protein view point I would say that ethnicity does affect pheromones. The science of genetics has made huge strides in the last decades however it isn’t completely figured out yet. Also awesome things like the Internet that can aid in research and discovery are a but of a double edged sword as they aslo make it very easy to distribute misinformation. Unfortunately pheromone research [speaking generally] doesn’t the attention, respect or funding that it should yet. That’s one of the reasons I love androtics, I’ve noticed that they do a lot to get research and results about their products. Semi side note: I’m a ginger and its a common thought that redheads have a vastly different chemical composition, I am not entirely convinced of this. However I have noticed that with a few of the [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) I have had a chance to try [not just androtics] I either need to use much less or much more than the majority of others report using to get self affects. Similar findings have been researched and documented about redheads and anastetics and depression/ anxiety medication. Anyways I hope one of the super awesome posters with vast knowledge of pheromones and genetics will post and give you tons of info! Also please do correct me if needed guys Im by no means an expert! > [@FuzziKitty](#): > > I’ve been researching and reading so much here that my eyes are going cross. > Sorry if this has been discussed before , but I can’t seem to find any good answers that satisfy my curiosity. > I have seen randomly here and there people mention possibly having different results from different ethnicities. > My question is not so much about how the pheromones effect others but rather how the pheromones self effect . For example, I’m a bi Eastern European female. Would I have different self effect results than a bi Asian female would have ? > I also understand that each person is different , personalities and naturally produced pheromones can vary. What I am attracted to might completely turn another bi female off. I’m just wondering if there are any statistics or findings regarding ethnicity. > Thank you for reading. ---
**Author:** ![FuzziKitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fuzzikitty/32/2431_2.png) [@FuzziKitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FuzziKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 6:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/3 "2015-01-05T06:14:09Z")
Mascara&mones thank you for your post ! Much appreciated. 🙂 I will like to keep a log of my future experiences with the products in the hopes that it will help with research. I made a second order from AD , today. This time I bought one mx. Thanks for the gift certificate guys. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mascara\_mones](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mascara_mones/32/1510_2.png) [@mascara\_mones](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mascara_mones)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/4 "2015-01-05T09:00:49Z")
Absolutely ! Have you made a journal on here yet ? If not give it a shot I bet you’ll get lots of awesome feed back. I would also point to the fact that its been proven that certain genetics increase the chance of certain diseases. So if they play that much of a role in our bodies responses I would think that they would definitely affects [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) reception. 🙂 side note after you post I ordered some amber and I am very excited to try it as a perfume! ---
**Author:** ![FuzziKitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fuzzikitty/32/2431_2.png) [@FuzziKitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FuzziKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/5 "2015-01-05T19:21:19Z")
Very interesting regarding genetics and diseases. I can see the validity in that. I am learning so much from this forum ! Can’t wait to learn so much more. I haven’t made a journal here yet but I would like to. I’ve been a lurker for quite some time and am easing myself into the forums as I don’t usually interact publicly online. Also I work in a government building that is quite conservative and discretion is required so I’m speculating how I will go about sharing my results in a public journal without causing problems with the workers here. Most of my reports will probably be work related as I dont have much of a life outside of it. Ha. I can omit names and identifying features from my reports to increase discreetness. we shall see how graceful I can be with it. Lol once my package arrives I will begin reports immediately. Very nice that you ordered the Amber. It is a very yummy scent with a sensual, deep energy. I imagine you will enjoy it ! Thanks for giving me something interesting to read on my break time. Kitti ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/6 "2015-01-05T21:45:29Z")
> [@FuzziKitty](#): > > Also I work in a government building that is quite conservative and discretion is required so I’m speculating how I will go about sharing my results in a public journal without causing problems with the workers here. Most of my reports will probably be work related as I dont have much of a life outside of it. Ha. > I can omit names and identifying features from my reports to increase discreetness. we shall see how graceful I can be with it. Lol once my package arrives I will begin reports immediately. I work for a big company, usually nothing happens at my work so I don’t write them down. If it does, usually its because I am wearing A314 and I smell like a manager, especially at the coffee dispenser people seem to be really polite when I am around 😃. Most of my ramblings are from random encounters that happen outside my job, since then I get the most interaction with people (cubicle warfares are forbidden at my job, I can guess why). If you do like to write down a bit and it concerns your work, don’t hesitate to call your co-workers “guy A” or “male A” and also don’t hesitate to keep the environment very basic (or change it to “a coffee machine”). We don’t have to know where you work and who your co-workers are, but we love to hear the effects you have on your co-workers 😉 ---
**Author:** ![FuzziKitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fuzzikitty/32/2431_2.png) [@FuzziKitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FuzziKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/7 "2015-01-08T00:13:51Z")
Mrseeker thank you for your post 🙂 I wanted to reply sooner but work had me tied down. I’ve already started a journal with skeleton outlines for my reports regarding each pheromone. So all I will need to do is come home and fill them out. I want to start with one pheromone at a time to get a good feel for each one. Lately I have been keeping my awareness active while I work. Just to get me prepared for paying attention / looking for patterns and results. Already ( without pheromone use) I’m noticing things I haven’t noticed before. I will add those findings to my entries. I’m already starting to learn more about my behavior and how I interact with my environment. This will help me to give you guys better more accurate reports. One other question I had.. . Thanks for reading and also thanks for sharing your knowledge . Kitti. ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/8 "2015-01-08T14:23:12Z")
About the sweating and stuff: Think of it like a good quality perfume. If you are wearing perfume and sweat a lot, the perfume will fade really fast. That is why some people use oil instead of the sprays in warmer climates. If you like the spray but feel that the effects won’t last too long because of the heat, maybe you can ask androtics to make a similar oil-based version. But I would start with the spray and go from there. I had no problems yet with leaking, DHL does a way better job with making sure that the package arrives in one piece, USPS does not care so much and will make packages “disappear” when you are not careful. ---
**Author:** ![FuzziKitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fuzzikitty/32/2431_2.png) [@FuzziKitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FuzziKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/9 "2015-01-10T18:52:25Z")
Shipping to this island AD sends my packages via FedEx. It’s 20$ for shipping. I still had the [spray pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/) on my skin when I went for a run yesterday at work. After our run (40 minutes later) I smelled my spray spots ( hand and wrist) and noticed that the cologne smell was gone but my skin smelled… Funky. Not a smell I’ve ever experienced before on myself. It was like an onion sprinkled with Parmesan cheese.. That had sat in the sun for a while. ---
**Author:** ![mascara\_mones](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mascara_mones/32/1510_2.png) [@mascara\_mones](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mascara_mones)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/10 "2015-01-10T22:41:53Z")
Wow not fun.. I wear my mones to the gym frequently and haven’t had that happen thankfully. Maybe it is the humidity? Sorry doll I hope you get lots of suggestions on it. * * * > [@FuzziKitty](#): > > Shipping to this island AD sends my packages via FedEx. It’s 20$ for shipping. > I still had the spray pheromones on my skin when I went for a 5 mile run yesterday at work. After our run (40 minutes later) I smelled my spray spots ( hand and wrist) and noticed that the cologne smell was gone but my skin smelled… Funky. Not a smell I’ve ever experienced before on myself. It was like an onion sprinkled with Parmesan cheese.. That had sat in the sun for a while. ---
**Author:** ![FuzziKitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fuzzikitty/32/2431_2.png) [@FuzziKitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FuzziKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/11 "2015-01-11T00:57:12Z")
I think you are right mascara! It didnt seem to bother people around me. They were in my space but not wrinkling their noses. I kept thinking omg I want to hide under a rock because the smell , how can you not be running away from me right now? I might just wash it off before my exercise sessions. That way I don’t have to feel self conscious for the rest of my work day lol. My wrist wraps smell like I rubbed a guy’s sweaty armpit with them. o.O. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/12 "2015-01-11T04:57:32Z")
> [@FuzziKitty](#): > > I have seen randomly here and there people mention possibly having different results from different ethnicities. > My question is not so much about how the pheromones effect others but rather how the pheromones self effect . For example, I’m a bi Eastern European female. Would I have different self effect results than a bi Asian female would have ? > I also understand that each person is different , personalities and naturally produced pheromones can vary. What I am attracted to might completely turn another bi female off. I’m just wondering if there are any statistics or findings regarding ethnicity. There are definitely significant differences in the way that pheromones affect people of various ethnicities. I don’t know if many detailed studies have been done, but there are some patterns of generalities that tend to hold true. Ethnicities with greater natural pheromone output tend to have more of an ability to tolerate and be receptive to higher pheromone exposure. Such high-output ethnicities include middle-eastern and Latin-American. African-Americans tend to be on the higher-output side, but results can be less predictable and more nuanced. Asians tend to have very low output, especially in more eastern regions like Korea and Japan. I am also Eastern European, and I feel like I’m generally in the middle. Self-effects can be a window into how others are affected, especially by others of the same gender and ethnicity as yourself. But an Asian is definitely going to be affected differently than an Eastern European. Asians would have an OD reaction much more quickly than you would. > [@](#): > > The climate I live in is very humid and warm all year. My work requires me to be strong and fit so I run and lift weights a lot, causing me to sweat and get very hot every day. I’m curious to know if I should wash the pheromones off before my physical training or does it not matter ? I train at work together with coworkers so I wouldn’t want to have negative results from the sweatiness. We get drenched every time and sometimes cannot get to the showers until a few hours later. The funny smell you experienced was probably because the bacteria on your skin (enhanced by sweat) probably caused the product to deteriorate. Bacteria is a big enemy of fragrances. If you are really keen to avoid that, washing your app points will definitely help. And mrseeker is right, sweat will really wash the mones off of your skin, making them mostly useless. The best way around this is to spray them on your hair. This is the only situation in which I will suggest applying to hair, because hair really hinders diffusion. But in a hot and sweaty situation, hindered diffusion is exactly what you want. ---
**Author:** ![FuzziKitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fuzzikitty/32/2431_2.png) [@FuzziKitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FuzziKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/13 "2015-01-12T04:16:05Z")
Regarding people who have low output - do they also have a lower reaction to others wearing pheromones around them ? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/14 "2015-01-12T17:22:52Z")
It’s generally the opposite. They tend to have better reactions to lower doses, and they tend to max out or display “ghosting” sooner than others would. ---
**Author:** ![theglitterelf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@theglitterelf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/theglitterelf)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/15 "2015-02-04T09:43:21Z")
> [@FuzziKitty](#): > > Shipping to this island AD sends my packages via FedEx. It’s 20$ for shipping. > I still had the spray pheromones on my skin when I went for a 5 mile run yesterday at work. After our run (40 minutes later) I smelled my spray spots ( hand and wrist) and noticed that the cologne smell was gone but my skin smelled… Funky. Not a smell I’ve ever experienced before on myself. It was like an onion sprinkled with Parmesan cheese.. That had sat in the sun for a while. Which mones were you wearing? I haven’t had this with any Androtics products but I did purchase a spray with copulins and it had a funky odor. I always have to spray it and let it dry then put some lotion over it to drown out the smell. ---
**Author:** ![FuzziKitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fuzzikitty/32/2431_2.png) [@FuzziKitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FuzziKitty)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-ethnicity-does-a-womans-ethnicity-change-her-self-effects/63597/16 "2015-02-04T16:13:31Z")
I don’t remember which ones now. But It was probably io since I usually spray my hands and wrists with it. It may have been a combination of things: the high humidity , tons of sweat ( dripping ! ) and the hot equator sun. My nose is very very sensitive. I asked my friend to smell my hand and he said he didn’t notice anything bad. My stupid nose lol