# Pheromones and loss of libido?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 11, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222 "2017-06-11T18:16:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![redsox87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ebca7d/32.png) [@redsox87](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/redsox87)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/1 "2017-06-11T18:16:18Z")

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Hello-

I’ve been using pheromones for a few months (namely A314, ammo, instant shine and instant gentleman). In the past 30-45 days I’ve noticed a significant drop in libido. Not sure if it’s stress or what but the introduction of pheromones into my life coinciding with this issue has raised questions. My testosterone levels are normal to above normal as evidenced by a recent blood test. Anyone else experienced anything like this with the [pheromone sprays](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/)?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/2 "2017-06-12T01:17:35Z")

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Nope, not at all.

However, a very few people have reported erection-issues with products high in Betanol but that isn’t any of these. This could partly be explained by the more introspective properties of betanol maybe making them think twice about if they really want to be doing stuff with whoever.

With your mones, there is the possibility the effects of the status products might be making the most of your innate self-control and the urge becoming less insistent - but I’d still tend to look at stress/other factors in your wider life first.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/3 "2017-06-12T02:33:06Z")

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I’ve felt a decrease in libido from certain putatives but I don’t think it’s ever happened with those products for me.

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**Author:** ![romanceferris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@romanceferris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romanceferris)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/4 "2017-06-14T19:52:23Z")

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I am very new to the pheromone topic. But I do know libido and stamina. This is an I teresting topic. Before ruling the mones as the core factor. Consider increasing your sleep/rest time. Sexual balance in stamina and libido has a very high dependence on getting adequate rest (the least). There are also supplements that help. Adequate zinc, vitamin D3, that keep up going “strong long”.  
As for [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). I would think that the only thing that could result in a lower drive is any that messes with your testosterone levels, since it is the driving force and pillar of a male’s sexual performance.

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**Author:** ![xtraspecial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ccd318/32.png) [@xtraspecial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xtraspecial)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/5 "2017-08-02T18:12:47Z")

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It’s the A1 in A314. Cut it out, and you’ll be a walking hard-on

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/6 "2017-08-02T19:35:44Z")

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It’s highly unlikely that there is any A1 in A314 - consider that Ad have declared a pretty clear position on not using the stuff!

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/7 "2017-08-03T02:55:50Z")

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> [@xtraspecial](#):
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> It’s the A1 in A314. Cut it out, and you’ll be a walking hard-on

You know… might sound funny but.. when I wear anything rone, like IG or A314 I find that the ‘gentleman’ vibe I get makes me a little soft.. like I’m more caring and concerned.. and well for me personally, I wouldnt find it very easy to get in the mood while in that mode.

Now especially if you are wearing it several times a week or everyday, the self effects can linger and linger… you may just need a good old fashioned phero detox.

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**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/8 "2017-08-03T11:42:24Z")

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I think it’s good to check out M Harris’ thread about -rone man and -none man. The difference was clearly outlined there.

That’s me saying there’s no A1 in A314. 🙂 As to why, mobocaster already pointed that out. 🙂

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**Author:** ![xtraspecial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ccd318/32.png) [@xtraspecial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xtraspecial)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/9 "2017-08-22T15:36:10Z")

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Yes, i agree with you Mobo and Dee… Androtics has given you and the WHOLE WORLD the secret formula to A314. The same way they so generously gave us the formula for MX353, and [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/).

A314 has A1 in it… not in LARGE amounts, but it’s in there. I can feel it… especially down there. RONE and EVERYTHING else makes me a sex god in bed…

It shocks me how confident everyone is with Androtics. The company that censors this forum. The same company that tell people to test its products, and then when they find out what works they raise the price by 1,00000000 percent

Just to be clear, I don’t think they should give us their formula. It is THEIR formula. Hence more reason for me to believe they HAVE NOT revealed the formula or components in A314.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/10 "2017-08-22T18:35:58Z")

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Actually, if you do some reading, I think you will find they have let slip several components of A314 over the years - either directly or by giving us a pretty strong hint to what they are/were. Dosing and proportion remain elusive of course but again, there has been a pretty pointed hint for the two compontnents at each end of the dose range.

I actually reckon there is enough info here to make a reasonable stab at the old and much loved 5-molecule formula of A314 if you do your reading and don’t ignore the animalics but yes the current/last few years formula evades us. Which is unsurprising for a current product.

BTW, I’m also pretty sensitive to A1 (not in a good way) and have used it down to tiny doses and still got the downers - but I’ve never had the same negatives from A314 nor had that pretty unmistakable breakdown smell. Thre is however a possibility that more modern versions of A314 do contain steering that may have partially similar effects.

Also remember that M Harris put down his position on A1 **long before** the cracks you refer to began to open - which is all the more reason to make me think its genuine.

Similarly, the MX353 formula is published here already - Read! 🙂

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**Author:** ![xtraspecial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ccd318/32.png) [@xtraspecial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xtraspecial)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/11 "2017-08-25T20:41:57Z")

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I’m actually using the “published” MX353 mix this week and today. It does seem very good, although I never used MX353 myself. Others have said it was not the same exact formula. I’m sure it was similar, but not the same.

I’ve used A314 for many years, and have seen the change. I still feel strongly about the A1 in it. But you’re completely correct… could be a derivative of A1 or something very similar. Like I said before, I’m sensitive to A1, but nothing else for the most part. I’m usually walking with my 3rd leg all the time…😉

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/12 "2017-09-07T18:09:57Z")

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It is possible that there’s a rebound effect. Your body works at homeostasis - mones push your endocrine system to stimulus and the body pushes back to the regain your “thermostat” setting.

[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) seems to do this. You’re bright and shiny for a couple hours then you get tired.

There’s too much of a good thing. See if cutting back usage and allowing rebound time helps.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/13 "2017-09-07T18:15:14Z")

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Yes, taking a break regularly does help keep you in touch with yourself and should try to work it in to your normal phero cycle.

Of course I’m just as bad as anyone else when it comes to listening to good advice on pheros so I’m lucky if I get one layoff day a month! :o

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**Author:** ![soldier88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@soldier88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/soldier88)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/14 "2017-09-08T21:27:01Z")

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Loss of libido try l arganine and maca

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/15 "2017-10-02T23:26:39Z")

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> [@xtraspecial](#):
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> It shocks me how confident everyone is with Androtics. The company that censors this forum. The same company that tell people to test its products, and then when they find out what works they raise the price by 1,00000000 percent

That’s not how this works, when you are a reporting user you get it at a discounted amount because you are assisting with the testing. They don’t “raise the price on you when it works”. They charge a fair price based on costs and demand once testing is done.

A1 is not in A314.  
You are a little bit special aren’t ya!

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/16 "2017-10-02T23:28:07Z")

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In regards to Redsox, the OP, I would say it’s unrelated. If anything Androstenone makes my libido way higher. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH in particular!

The only times I have had difficulty was when I was having way too much sex. Maybe that is your problem? 😃

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**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 6:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/17 "2017-10-03T06:44:11Z")

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> [@evolver](#):
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> The only times I have had difficulty was when I was having way too much sex. Maybe that is your problem? 😃

Whoa! SO it’s a problem now? 😮

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-loss-of-libido/67222/18 "2017-10-03T14:33:12Z")

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When you have too much sex it certainly doesn’t make it as special.

It just becomes “Sport f\*\*king” :o
