# Pheromones and magick

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-magick/8018>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [January 3, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-magick/8018 "2008-01-03T23:36:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-magick/8018/9 "2008-03-14T20:57:59Z")

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Magik

Welcome to the forum 🙂 I am so sorry I missed your GC, it was not intended I assure you.

> [@](#):
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> 3mL Androstadienone  
> 5mL Androstanone  
> 5mL Estratetraenol  
> 5mL Androstenone  
> 5mL Androsterone  
> 5mL Androstenol  
> 5mL Estriol

HMMM so you want **mixes** that dont contain any of the above at all ?

I suggest [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and Instant Shine. Both come in a light neroli scent so you can wear your own cologne if you choose to.

I am assuming you have mixed pheromones before ? Its can be tricky to do so if you havnt had experience take it slow so you dont waste product. Dont mix big batches until you know how each pheromone effects the other. Different pheromones and amounts mixed can cause different effects and you need to be aware of what pheromones are congruant with others to make a good symphonic mix.

(experimones and putatives) are advanced products and normally you need experience with Androtics consumer line before you approved for these. Here is a post from Jasmin explaining this…

> [@Special Orders Not Accepted...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/special-orders-not-accepted/4325):
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> Until further notice for any customers who’ve been with us for less than 1 year, unless otherwise authorized by me. Aside from private and academic researchers, only those enthusiasts positing explicit, helpful feedback with dosage based mix details will be authorized. There has been an excessive amount of custom orders lately from newbies, and it’s starting to create an undesirable backlog that prohibits serious researchers and enthusiasts who depend on us. It only inhibits our own R&D. It tak…

You may want to give steveO a call before ordering on this if these are what you want. This way you dont end up ordering anything your not approved for. 😉

Well if you have any questions just let us know and we look forward to your participation.

Sorry again about the wait on your GC.

Tisha

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