# Pheromones and Menopause **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [November 4, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154 "2015-11-04T17:04:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/41 "2015-11-16T15:42:31Z")
Nice reports you have here Kim! šŸ™‚ I wonder if youā€™ll like TAC too. šŸ™‚ Subscribing! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Kimberly\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kimberly_1/32/2205_2.png) [@Kimberly\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kimberly_1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/42 "2015-11-17T12:16:32Z")
Last night: I did spray two chest sprays after I got home. It seemed to help with the early evening tiredness. I donā€™t have anything specific or different to report. Day 8 Tuesday 11/17 I think today Iā€™ll take it with me and spray after I get to work. Iā€™m trying to find that sweet spot for time of day and duration. If I spray while I get ready it wonā€™t push me thru the work day. I also would like to have it with me so I can spray BEFORE I leave work, so by the time I get home itā€™ll be kikkin in! I may not continue to report daily. My days are repetitive with work and family. Again I remind you that this is all about ME! Shine works, it elevates my mood. If I donā€™t report, know that no news is good news and all is status quo. Iā€™ll always report on effects or any changes I notice. Iā€™m waiting on my instant sexy so Iā€™ll definitely report on that!šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Kimberly\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kimberly_1/32/2205_2.png) [@Kimberly\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kimberly_1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/43 "2015-11-17T12:23:55Z")
> [@Dee\_A](#): > > Nice reports you have here Kim! šŸ™‚ > > I wonder if youā€™ll like TAC too. šŸ™‚ > > Subscribing! šŸ™‚ Iā€™m not sure TAC is one I need? Unless Iā€™ve missed other reports I see that it is a muscle relaxer, pain reliever. I have read that it can intensify the big O butā€¦Iā€™m good! šŸ˜ƒ My body chemistry is already ā€œdownā€/low Iā€™m just Leary to try a ā€œrelaxantā€. But Iā€™m open. ---
**Author:** ![Kimberly\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kimberly_1/32/2205_2.png) [@Kimberly\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kimberly_1)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/44 "2015-11-19T14:10:25Z")
So just a quick update on effects: Iā€™m typically a home-work-home-work kinda girl. I had to go get my prescription last night after my one spray of shine before leaving work. I have to say it was actually comical, everyone in line ā€œneededā€ to talk to me! The girl behind the counter talked to me so long in-between ringing me up that I was thinking ā€œoh come on already, Iā€™m not that interesting!ā€ now this AM, my first [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) spray. I was walking thru the parking lot on my way in, I was carrying a casserole dish. I had two people (men and women) in the parking lot and two in the front of the building say ā€œoh that looks good!ā€ā€¦it was EMPTY!!! hilarious!šŸ˜‰ So far I do not notice a difference between shine and sexy as far as self effects,but its early. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/45 "2015-11-19T16:08:44Z")
With time, youā€™ll become more and more attentive to the behavior of people around you. And youā€™ll notice a lot of details that you might not notice in the first weeks of use. It will eventually help you see the differences between two products that may appear to act the same. What you are mentionning look like social hits. If you can get such effect from ISexiness in the open air, in a parking lot, youā€™ll see stronger effect in buildings, itā€™s almost certain. Itā€™s good to see you are having results šŸ™‚. Keep up the good work. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/46 "2015-11-19T17:16:02Z")
I have been testing [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) myself and donā€™t want to tell to many details yet so I donā€™t mess up my report and research, but I have found the same thing. I also have found effects on men and women and find this very useful so far. ---
**Author:** ![Kimberly\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kimberly_1/32/2205_2.png) [@Kimberly\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kimberly_1)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/47 "2015-11-20T14:25:30Z")
Thanks Guys! yesterday was strange in deed! I only sprayed in the morning (two isexy). We were having a holiday luncheon on our floor (hence me having the empty dish, someone needed to barrow)I did not want to gass people out. Perfume smells and food never mix! A bit more personality background. Iā€™m an introvert thru and thru. In the Myers-Briggs personality world Iā€™m a 1%'er , a true INFJ, I peg the needle! šŸ™‚ That being said, in a group type situation like this I would NEVER strike up a conversation with someone, Iā€™m a wall flower. I donā€™t really want to even participate. I was helping the manager out, setting up, she was a bit stressed as the turkey was late and people were standing around. I happened to be the one that set out the forks (I brought cake pop balls as my contribution šŸ˜›). It was super strange for me to be aware of everyone around me. They wanted me to be first in line to get my plate, awkward! Saying I was the fork lady and no one could eat with out meā€¦I JUST set them on the table people! We did an ā€œintroduce yourselfā€ around the room, and people asked me questions about insurance (Iā€™m an insurance agent). No one asked other people questionsā€¦lots of oooos and ahhhhs over the cakepop ballsā€¦a couple guys clearly gave me the ā€œonce overā€. It was too much for me actually. I ended up taking my dessert back to my office. Now would people have done all of this without mones? who knows, But it was clear to me that people were attracted to me, found me more interesting than I actually am šŸ˜®. I will rarely have opportunity to report on others so this was intriguing. Iā€™m at work now, I sprayed two sexiness on my chest an hour ago. It is different than shine. Less peppy. Shine puts a skip in my step. Sexy still lifts my mood but I cant actually identify it. laterā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/48 "2015-11-20T14:51:45Z")
I have found wearing IS/B does do something with mood for sure. I canā€™t quite figure it out just yet either but it makes me feel good wearing it to. ---
**Author:** ![Lillian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lillian/32/1269_2.png) [@Lillian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lillian)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/49 "2015-11-21T01:12:59Z")
> [@Kimberly](#): > > Tā€¦ > Now would people have done all of this without mones? who knows, But it was clear to me that people were attracted to me, found me more interesting than I actually am šŸ˜®. I will rarely have opportunity to report on others so this was intriguing. > > Iā€™m at work now, I sprayed two sexiness on my chest an hour ago. It is different than shine. Less peppy. Shine puts a skip in my step. Sexy still lifts my mood but I cant actually identify it. > > laterā€¦ Kimā€¦itā€™s too late to change your journal title to ā€œTOTALLY HOOKED ON THESE AWESOME THINGSā€ I kid, I kid. you are slowly learning these things can assist with the wallflower aspect, which is why I started with this site to begin withā€¦I get anxious, want to blend into the wall or disappear into the floor like it was a superpower that I havenā€™t mastered yetā€¦with these tiny little things Iā€™m able to be ok about not being in a caveā€¦for the most part at leastā€¦I have to combo up on some like CTTM because as you felt with ISexi- everyone else is comfortable, but you arenā€™tā€¦ I find that interesting. Isexi allows me to FEEL comfortable, whereas CTTM give me the reaction you feltā€¦curiouser and curiouser. Great report and thank you for sharing! ---
**Author:** ![Kimberly\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kimberly_1/32/2205_2.png) [@Kimberly\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kimberly_1)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/50 "2015-11-23T15:10:39Z")
> [@Lillian](#): > > Kimā€¦itā€™s too late to change your journal title to ā€œTOTALLY HOOKED ON THESE AWESOME THINGSā€ I kid, I kid.! I KNOW! šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜® So this weekend was full of Holiday prep and house cleaning. Shine was ā€œmothers little Helperā€ in that department. House is clean! only sprayed one spray at a time about 4 hours apart, 4 sprays total thru the day. no crash that way! I didnā€™t spray this morning, but I did bring it with me. Iā€™m going Thanks Giving food shopping after work. The grocery store and I have a love hate relationship!! šŸ˜  so Ill need a boost before I head out! (Ill also have a situation to see how others react) ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/51 "2015-11-23T15:16:57Z")
I didnā€™t think to try like that wearing 1 spray at a time every few hours, I like the idea though and if it stops the crash when worn by itself makes this IS even better. I canā€™t wait to see Hanks 4X report and see how that goes. ---
**Author:** ![Kimberly\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kimberly_1/32/2205_2.png) [@Kimberly\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kimberly_1)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/52 "2015-11-24T14:41:49Z")
The more I use this stuff the more I can see where people have fun getting ā€œhitsā€ . I on the other hand, the introvert that I am, pretty much HATE the added attentionā€¦ So I sprayed one shine and one IS about an hour before I was headed to grocery shop. This was the BIG holiday shopping not a regular trip. I was there an hour and a half. I walk by a gentleman late 50ā€™s who asked me if I spoke Spanish, not an unusual question as I live in Florida. I told him no, sorry and kept on. Two isles later he catches up to me and in his broken English says ā€œyou have my grand daughters eyesā€ and proceeds to whip out his cell phone and show me pictures of his grand kids! (triplet girls Imight add) for real! CRAZY! Then in the frozen Isle Iā€™m picking up some frozen ā€œjunk snacksā€ for my 19 year old and an older, say 80ā€™s, lady stops and asks me if it tasted good. I jokingly tell her ā€œprobably not, but my son likes themā€ 3-4 min later and she is still quizzing me on items in my cart! SO STRANGE! I have to give credit to the mones, Iā€™ve never had that happen to me EVER in the history of grocery shopping! I wont be using/wearing/spraying everyday. I can see where the effects wane or we get used to them over time. Iā€™ll save it for times when Iā€™m more down or need a pick me up. Its not a daily thing for me. I does drain a bit, if you over use. Still Love it though! ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/53 "2015-11-24T15:10:25Z")
I agree, itā€™s fun to see these hits occurring almost randomly. I donā€™t use mones daily, either. Of course, I work at home alone, but I really enjoy using them whenever I venture out. You got some pretty nice hits at the grocery store! ---
**Author:** ![brasileira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@brasileira](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/brasileira)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/54 "2015-11-24T15:44:32Z")
Itā€™s really amazing how much fun this can be! And even when I donā€™t have the chance to experiment, I still find quite some amusement just by reading about the hits that other people getā€¦ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Kimberly\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kimberly_1/32/2205_2.png) [@Kimberly\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kimberly_1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/55 "2015-12-04T15:35:53Z")
so with the Holidays upon us, I will not be online much. Iā€™m almost out of my little spray tube of Instant shine and I will not be reordering a large size until after the holiday gifts for others are out of the way. I am so glad to have found this company and forum. I canā€™t speak for most of the products but [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) really,really works! and I will continue to use it. I do wish there was a better way to avoid the crash since I do think more than one spray at a time is better but it makes me too sleepy and kind of defeats the purpose. Iā€™m glad to have started this journal for any other menopausal woman out there searching the internet for answers. Thatā€™s how I ended up here. laterā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/56 "2015-12-04T15:43:02Z")
Hi Kimberly\*, Insufficient hydration can sometimes contribute to IShine crashes as well as electrolyte depletion. Could it be the cause of the problem you are experiencing? ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/57 "2015-12-04T19:20:51Z")
You could try one of the Putatives like [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) or P96 to avoid the crash and they would actually add to the shine and effects especially P74 like a sysnergistic effect. P74 work in low doses even around 5 MCG for me so this could be an option for you. With P96 it usually takes me around 15 MCG or higher to get nice effects. Then with others if I overpower the IS a little I donā€™t get the crash effect at all. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/58 "2015-12-04T20:00:22Z")
CTTM is very uplifting for me as well, no crashes reported for that one. ---
**Author:** ![Lillian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lillian/32/1269_2.png) [@Lillian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lillian)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/59 "2015-12-06T01:09:52Z")
Kim, I hope you are able to find more of what you are looking for with IS and enjoy the holiday. Iā€™ll be pretty busy myself, but this forum now helps me keep my sanity with such a busy work schedule. Happy Holidays and please be safe. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154/60 "2015-12-16T13:30:30Z")
Very interesting journal! Iā€™ve often asked about pheromone effects on the menopausal but have gotten little feedback so far. I also agree on the many of your supplements, I took a 5-HTP this morning when I awoke to a grey and gloomy day. DLPA is another favorite. You might want to try ZMA - zinc magnesium asparate. It provides zinc for the enzymes that help with converting steroid precursors into testosterone and other hormones. I find I get reliable morning wood after taking it a few nights in a row. It is cheap too! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-menopause/65154.md?page=4)