# Pheromones and Neurotransmitters **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 27, 2011, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-neurotransmitters/50065 "2011-04-27T12:55:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kardec](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Kardec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kardec)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-neurotransmitters/50065/21 "2011-05-15T18:58:40Z")
I was a member of this site many years ago, just dropping by and browsing now but thought I might weigh in this subject. I am not an MD but have had family members who have had some experience with hormone and neurotransmitter issues. If my memory is correct neurotransmitters and hormones are deeply intertwined. If someone was concerned about it, or took the research being done here very seriously, they might lay off the pheromones for a bit then have some comprehensive blood work done, complete with all hormones and Catecholamines (Norepinephrine, Epinephrine, Dopamine, – these are some neurotransmitters). A company called Sanesco Labs has an additional neurotransmitter test kit using saliva and urine that will show additional neurotransmitter activity. The two tests blood and urine/saliva don’t really give similar results … If I heard correctly this was because some of the materials are degraded by passing through your digestive system … but they can create a baseline for figuring out what may change in the future. Probably it’s not a bad idea for anyone to have a set of these tests done while they are young and healthy so they can compare later in life … everyone’s body is somewhat different. My brother had naturally very high testosterone when he was a young man (which was great at the time!) but we think it may have hidden a number of other issues, like excessive Norepinephrine signalling, which trouble him today. Different neurotransmitters have different and opposing functions and are created and dealt with by the body in different ways. I don’t believe you can lump them all and just call them “neurotransmitters” and assume the the subject is easily discussed or understood. I’m trying to be as general as possible here in case my understanding is flawed in some way. This subject is nothing to fool around with. The chemical aspects of mental health are nothing to fool around with. Talk to a physician if necessary, have him or her order these or other tests, pay for them yourself if necessary, it’ll cost no more than someone might spend on cigarettes or booze or pheromones over the course of a year. Find a doc who’ll actually DISCUSS the test results in detail and keep a copy yourself. Retest when necessary. All I want to do is suggest that everyone be cautious. If you think something odd is going on, check it out. The sort of careful assessing of physical sensations and mental attitudes everyone does here is really great … it might even lead to someone discovering a pre-existing heath issue before a doctor could discover it. And certainly someone with a pre-existing issue should be careful. Additionally, it would be fascinating to see if a healthy person noted any alteration in their testable hormone/neurotransmitter balance before, during and after using [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). A bit advanced, expensive and time consuming a process but interesting just the same. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-neurotransmitters/50065/22 "2011-12-15T07:26:49Z")
I also found this site that will process a test of your NT levels. A bit pricey, but, I thought I’d share… [NeuroScreen Neurotransmitter Test](http://www.integrativepsychiatry.net/neuroscreen_neurotransmitter_test.html) . ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 10:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-neurotransmitters/50065/23 "2011-12-15T10:18:27Z")
Lab Testing your neurotransmitters is a waste of money in my opinion as its not a accurate depiction of whats going on in the brain. For instance serotonin. 90% of it is produced in the gut not the brain so a saliva or urine test would not show you an accurate measure of how serotonin is reacting neurologically. You would have to test cerebro-spinal fluid to asertain how much neurotransmitters are in the brain and even then the test wont tell you what parts of the brain they are functioning in or how its reacting within the body like the central nervous system. There are to many variables for these tests to be accurate. Hormone testing is fine though. > [@](#): > > I’m not here to advocate for a high carb diet by any means, ala Ornish or anything. But consistently eating less then 50 carbs a day, unless you have a metabolic disorder, will sooner or later cause a drop in serotonin, and T3, among others. Many people who benefit from reducing carbs do so from elimination of an item in their diet to which they had a sensitivity, like gluten. If by cutting carbs you mean cutting out the white flour, sugar etc, then yes most people will benefit from that. Reducing sugar and insulin spikes has a multitude of benefits I eat very low carb. I am sensitive to gluten. I dont have celiacs so I can eat it without getting “sick” but it I dont like the affect it has on me. Everyone’s carb threshold is different in my opinion. Some people are fine with eating 50 grams forever and some are not. I range between 50 and 75 grams all derived from fruits and veggies. No wheat products although I will eat oatmeal and rice which are gluten free. The minute I eat wheat I get brain fog and start having trouble concentrating. I also pack on pounds rapidly. Carbs and sugar just produce cravings for more carbs and sugar and it produces a vicious cycle. Metabolic type testing is good or an elimination diet and then listening to your body. People dont pay attention to there bodies anymore. We live in a processed world. Oh I use [http://www.metametrix.com/](http://www.metametrix.com/) for testing. They are awesome however you do need a functional med practitioner to order tests. If you dont want to see one some of them do phone consults and will do the testing that way. I think its better to consult with a professional then trying to figure out your results yourself Tisha ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 10:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-neurotransmitters/50065/24 "2011-12-15T10:49:25Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I eat very low carb. I am sensitive to gluten. I dont have celiacs so I can eat it without getting “sick” but it I dont like the affect it has on me. Everyone’s carb threshold is different in my opinion. Some people are fine with eating 50 grams forever and some are not. I range between 50 and 75 grams all derived from fruits and veggies. No wheat products although I will eat oatmeal and rice which are gluten free. The minute I eat wheat I get brain fog and start having trouble concentrating. I also pack on pounds rapidly. Carbs and sugar just produce cravings for more carbs and sugar and it produces a vicious cycle. Metabolic type testing is good or an elimination diet and then listening to your body. People dont pay attention to there bodies anymore. We live in a processed world. Hmm I have this very same thing, “Carbs and sugar just produce cravings for more carbs and sugar and it produces a vicious cycle.” I just pack on the pounds (eating carbs) and I’ve found low-carbing to be ridiculously BRILLIANT in both appetite reduction AND burning fat I also often feel abit weird after eating wheat products like bread [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-neurotransmitters/50065.md?page=1)