# Pheromones and Occult Ritual... Let's manifest, baby!

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 9, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299 "2009-09-09T16:20:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/1 "2009-09-09T16:20:06Z")

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I am planning on a sigil ritual using high concentrations of TAF as part of the ritual to attain a high level of focus on the task at hand.

See

> [@Need advice for TAF, BNOL, and P83, High concentrations](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-for-taf-bnol-and-p83-high-concentrations/32244/17):
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> Xiphoid, thanks for such an in depth reply! And now that I understand TAF better, thanks to you, I am more convinced than ever that it will work for this particular technique. The goal of this exercise is to excite the mind and fill up the senses with as many details during the ritual as possible. The meditation is the initial phase, and it isn’t so much about letting the mind go blank. The purpose of this kind of meditation is to simply switch of filters. What I aim to do is to use the foc…

I was wondering two things..

1. Have you ever used any [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) in a ritualistic way, occult or otherwise, to attain a goal? I am talking anything from “The Secret” to prayer to Santaria. Any kind of spiritual goal will do.

2. Would you be interested in me doing a write up of my technique?

I am into something called “results oriented magic.” In other words, I don’t want to simply do a ritual for the sake of doing a ritual. I want to do it for real world results. For instance, if I say that I am going to do a ritual for something to happen, then, unless I can make it manifest in the real world, the ritual is a failure and was a waste of time.

So, would be interested in this technique? I was planning on doing it today using a high dose of TAF, but after receiving some information, (Thanks Xiph!) I am convinced this should be something I do early in the morning, and I had better prepare for it.

Any thoughts, concerns, warnings, or questions that you might raise will be helpful. I guess if I am going to do this, I had better do it properly.

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**Author:** ![Namaste1001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/namaste1001/32/1222_2.png) [@Namaste1001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Namaste1001)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/2 "2009-09-09T16:26:09Z")

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> [@sigil.tech](#):
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> I am planning on a sigil ritual using high concentrations of TAF as part of the ritual to attain a high level of focus on the task at hand.
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> See
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> [Need advice for TAF, BNOL, and P83, High concentrations - #17 by sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-for-taf-bnol-and-p83-high-concentrations/32244/17)
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> I was wondering two things..
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> 1. Have you ever used any pheromone product in a ritualistic way, occult or otherwise, to attain a goal? I am talking anything from “The Secret” to prayer to Santaria. Any kind of spiritual goal will do.
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> 2. Would you be interested in me doing a write up of my technique?
> 
> I am into something called “results oriented magic.” In other words, I don’t want to simply do a ritual for the sake of doing a ritual. I want to do it for real world results. For instance, if I say that I am going to do a ritual for something to happen, then, unless I can make it manifest in the real world, the ritual is a failure and was a waste of time.
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> So, would be interested in this technique? I was planning on doing it today using a high dose of TAF, but after receiving some information, (Thanks Xiph!) I am convinced this should be something I do early in the morning, and I had better prepare for it.
> 
> Any thoughts, concerns, warnings, or questions that you might raise will be helpful. I guess if I am going to do this, I had better do it properly.

I remember reading a post where Steve used pheros to boost meditation resulting in a more lucid experience. You could ask him about what he used.

So have you ever manifested from a ritual before. I try a similar thing with traffic lights where I focus on getting greens. I find I get a lot more green lights when I do it. Very interesting.

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/3 "2009-09-09T16:35:04Z")

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> [@Namaste1001](#):
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> I remember reading a post where Steve used pheros to boost meditation resulting in a more lucid experience. You could ask him about what he used.
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> So have you ever manifested from a ritual before. I try a similar thing with traffic lights where I focus on getting greens. I find I get a lot more green lights when I do it. Very interesting.

I do that. (Green lights that is). It also works for parking spaces, financial prosperity, ect. It is amazing to me how when we combine our intention with our will, we can make pretty much anything happen (which is also why we have to be careful what we focus on).

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**Author:** ![Elaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Elaye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elaye)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/4 "2009-09-09T16:37:08Z")

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Sounds like a lot of work.

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/5 "2009-09-09T16:43:11Z")

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> [@Elaye](#):
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> Sounds like a lot of work.

Not work, necessarily. More a consistant focus. Like attracts like. You focus on doom and gloom and that is what you attract. Focus on love and compassion and being loving and compassionate and others tend to respond in kind.

I used to look at the world from a place of lack. Now I choose to look at it from a place of prosperity and joy. (yeah, sounds lame but it really does work.)

What sigil.tech is focusing on is using a tool to help him focus his awareness and his will to attain a goal.

Let us know how it works! 🙂

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**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/6 "2009-09-09T16:44:10Z")

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Hehehe… traffic lights are great, but I want a private island. 😉

LOL… I think I have officially entered into the “That guy is a kook” status on the forums.

Yeah, perhaps it is alot of work, but the payoff could be well worth it. I have successfully used ritual to obtain my goals in the past with little effort, so this might be worthwhile to attempt…

Its true, the more time you spend in ritual is less time you have in the real world making things happen… Hrmmmm… food for thought…

> [@Snoopyace](#):
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> I do that. (Green lights that is). It also works for parking spaces, financial prosperity, ect. It is amazing to me how when we combine our intention with our will, we can make pretty much anything happen (which is also why we have to be careful what we focus on).

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/7 "2009-09-09T16:47:39Z")

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> [@sigil.tech](#):
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> Hehehe… traffic lights are great, but I want a private island. 😉
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> LOL… I think I have officially entered into the “That guy is a kook” status on the forums.

You’re in good company then. I’ve found that just by keeping my goals in the back of my mind while trying to live in the moment as much as possible I have all sorts of little things happen to help point me to my goals very quickly. The tough part is the living in the moment. Most of us have been trained into a very future oriented mindset.

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**Author:** ![Namaste1001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/namaste1001/32/1222_2.png) [@Namaste1001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Namaste1001)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/8 "2009-09-09T16:54:15Z")

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> [@Snoopyace](#):
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> You’re in good company then. I’ve found that just by keeping my goals in the back of my mind while trying to live in the moment as much as possible I have all sorts of little things happen to help point me to my goals very quickly. The tough part is the living in the moment. Most of us have been trained into a very future oriented mindset.

Synchronicity.

Don’t worry Sigil, here is another kook to keep you company.

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**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/9 "2009-09-09T16:56:10Z")

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Thanks, heh. Let’s see how this works.. Already started up Word and working on the outline for my “ritual.” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/10 "2009-09-09T21:23:18Z")

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> [@Namaste1001](#):
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> Synchronicity.

Exactly.

Good luck creating your sigil, Sigil. I know it will work very well for you!

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**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/11 "2009-09-09T22:39:42Z")

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Thanks. I am using the Reduction Method. This is where you write down your desire in plain english, and then systematically remove vowels, then letters that are duplicated, and then use the remaining letters to form a symbol.

Of course, this is how it always starts, I always end up getting lost and doodling while imagining the feeling of my intent.

I usually do quick sigils, like maybe two or three minutes, for simple goals. For more complex goals, its just done when its done.

Cleaning up the house today, preparing the “temple” for the ritual. We will see how it goes.

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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/12 "2009-09-09T22:43:11Z")

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I believe that through my “rituals” (visualizations and affirmations of the same thing, 3 times a day) I have manifested many things in my life in the last year. Job promotion. Girls. Health. And guess what has aided me in this path – androtics pheros 🙂 Actually, I think one of the manifestations of my “rituals” is coming across this web site and discovering pheros. One of my affirmations is “I easily attain all my goals and dreams”. Then, along comes A314 into my life to aid in that quest. I also meditate daily for a half hour - tried it with IH 4X (bnol mostly) and yes it does help. But don’t meditate too often with pheros b/c the effects won’t do anything after awhile due to tolerance buuld up.

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**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/13 "2009-09-09T22:46:15Z")

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Excellent. Glad to hear it. I seek to refine my own mind, soul, and to manifest my desires using whatever tools are most effective.

I am glad to know I am not the only “wizard” on the forums. And even happier that I am not the craziest of the bunch. 😛

> [@giants52000](#):
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> I believe that through my “rituals” (visualizations and affirmations of the same thing, 3 times a day) I have manifested many things in my life in the last year. Job promotion. Girls. Health. And guess what has aided me in this path – androtics pheros 🙂 I also meditate daily for a half hour - tried it with IH 4X (bnol mostly) and yes it does help. But if meditate too often with pheros b/c the effects won’t do anything after awhile due to tolerance.

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/14 "2009-09-10T00:17:53Z")

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> [@sigil.tech](#):
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> … I am not the craziest of the bunch.

Well, I wouldn’t go _that_ far.😃

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/15 "2009-09-10T00:32:41Z")

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Ha, ha true. 🙂

> [@Mtnjim](#):
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> Well, I wouldn’t go _that_ far.😃

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**Author:** ![thisistheendgame](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thisistheendgame/32/1651_2.png) [@thisistheendgame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thisistheendgame)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/16 "2009-09-10T01:16:57Z")

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please forgive my ignorance on the subject, but what exactly are these “rituals?” is this like witchcraft, or am i placing too stereotypical of a label on it? are these made-up by the forum here, or are they something separate from [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) and the phero-community? just curious because recently i’ve kind of toyed with an interest in the occult and witchcraft/voodoo/whatever…i’ve never had the courage to try anything, nor do i even have the knowledge or education in any of it to do so. is there anywhere i can read up on this (the few websites i’ve read about “spells” and such seemed bogus or more for novelty purposes), and does it really work?

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**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/17 "2009-09-10T01:44:14Z")

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> [@thisistheendgame](#):
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> please forgive my ignorance on the subject, but what exactly are these “rituals?” is this like witchcraft, or am i placing too stereotypical of a label on it? are these made-up by the forum here, or are they something separate from pheromones and the phero-community? just curious because recently i’ve kind of toyed with an interest in the occult and witchcraft/voodoo/whatever…i’ve never had the courage to try anything, nor do i even have the knowledge or education in any of it to do so. is there anywhere i can read up on this (the few websites i’ve read about “spells” and such seemed bogus or more for novelty purposes), and does it really work?

How many spells have you cast today?

(Spell)ing  
A (Sentence)is a judgement  
How many things have you spoken into existence today?

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**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/18 "2009-09-10T01:48:24Z")

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I am referring to occult ritual.

There are many collectors of occult books, but rarely do you have anyone put the book down and do the exercises that are in the books.

I can recommend some books, but my suggestion is for you to simply go to the bookstore and see what calls out to you. Read a bit, educate yourself using some metaphysical books, etc.

> [@thisistheendgame](#):
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> please forgive my ignorance on the subject, but what exactly are these “rituals?” is this like witchcraft, or am i placing too stereotypical of a label on it? are these made-up by the forum here, or are they something separate from pheromones and the phero-community? just curious because recently i’ve kind of toyed with an interest in the occult and witchcraft/voodoo/whatever…i’ve never had the courage to try anything, nor do i even have the knowledge or education in any of it to do so. is there anywhere i can read up on this (the few websites i’ve read about “spells” and such seemed bogus or more for novelty purposes), and does it really work?

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**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/19 "2009-09-10T01:52:02Z")

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Every moment of every day you cannot help but do magic. The question is, how to do it more effectively?

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**Author:** ![dialate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dialate/32/1500_2.png) [@dialate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dialate)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 5:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-occult-ritual-lets-manifest-baby/32299/20 "2009-09-10T05:37:41Z")

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I am driving my car, and speeding. Do I exist (continue to speed) or do I exercise will to change my situation (reduce speed) against my natural inclinations.

The idea of magic and ritual is to explore the idea of will, and what exactly you can do with it.

As it is, the world is perfect. Every time you drop something, it accelerates at 9.8 m/s2. Cause and effect is absolute. A grounding point begets a spark from a source of charge, and vice versa. One atom bumps into another and both change direction. Repeat ad infinitum.

However, at some point, man reached a point where he believed he existed. Then he began to compare himself with others to achieve “success”, something no animal has conception of.

Something interesting happens at this point of realization…the world is no longer perfect. The paradise of ignorance is lost. Now there is a fight against one’s own nature, self-consciousness.

And this self-consciousness allows something even more interesting. At the point of death, if a man does not really believe he is dead, then he doesn’t die, and continues to exist without a body. However, lacking the standard accoutrements of sensory input and a solid existence, this soul either accepts death, and relinquishes his separate identity, or finds some way to continue to exist.

There is this morbid theory running around in religious circles that if a soul finds no way to accept death, nor find a continuance for existence, then eventually the soul succumbs to absolute isolation from which there is no escape. Hell, the abyss, etc.

However, one only needs to realize that at the beginning there was only god, and that which is god existed in isolation, and well… here we are. So, the other way to look at it is that the inescapable conclusion of consicousness is reaching the top of the food chain and creating your own universe.

With that in mind, perhaps the idea is we can develop ideas for the perfect universe while here on playground earth. Who knows, life is as basically as mystical or as arbitrary as you like, I guess the idea is to pick which ever one works best for you.

Now if we all remain unconvinced that I am the king of crazy, I would be happy to continue my dialogue 😛

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