# Pheromones and putatives that don't work together

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 23, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-putatives-that-dont-work-together/57119 "2012-10-23T15:01:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-putatives-that-dont-work-together/57119/2 "2012-10-23T23:26:31Z")

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I _love_ this idea! And yes, we are all different and so what’s true for one person may not be true for another, but…I think this has some real potential!

I’ll start off with things I’ve heard from people, since I don’t have a _huge_ amount of personal observations.

- I’m told A314 and IO kinda clash, or cancel each other out a bit anyway. Some people seem to use this to their advantage but then you’re getting into advanced territory.
- I assume we all know not to mix lots of -none heavy stuff, or -rone heavy stuff, unless we’re experienced with what that will do.
- Most people don’t seem to have much luck with MX297 and A314 together.
- Didn’t someone say that TAC and TAA don’t work together by themselves for them? Feel like I’ve heard that.

Okay, so my personal observations:

- P130 (12.5mcg) and TAA (7.5mcg) give me a pretty bad headache together, and have had this effect on a few people around me. I think it’s not a universal one though.
- I found that P92 and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) together were ok, nothing spectacular, but when the P92 wore off it was like _super_ crash. I felt like my brain was a record that kept skipping, and coffee did me _no_ good unlike it normally would.
- P83, P74, and TAK are all pretty sedating for me. Beta -nol as well. Add any or all of these together wrong and it doesn’t matter if you get the girl interested, you’re both going to be nodding off too quickly to make much headway. YMMV of course.
- P74 and A1 - if A1 makes you depressed sometimes, don’t mix these two together or your night will be crappy. (Also on the topic of A1, don’t have a bottle that is leaking in your desk drawer or you’ll be bummed out for a week or two, if you’re sensitive to it)
- MX297 again (really with mixes as complex as this seems to be you should be careful mixing it with anything) - if I mix it with IS it makes me surprisingly anxious. Manageable, but the gibbering fear-monkey part of my brain is wound up and braced for the worst at any second. I really don’t like that.

Hmmm…don’t know if this was that helpful, but I’ll keep an eye out for more stuff. And as has been said, don’t take my word for it - your experience is likely to be different from mine.

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