# Pheromones and Steroid use **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 12, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-steroid-use/26978 "2009-03-12T05:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![voodooelixir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f6c823/32.png) [@voodooelixir](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/voodooelixir)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-steroid-use/26978/1 "2009-03-12T05:32:35Z")
This might be a strange topic, but i gotta ask as there isn’t anywhere else in the world this sort discussion could take place. Im very into competitive boxing, and have a few friends who use steroids for competitive bodybuilding. As im the first in my group to experiment with this stuff (pheromones) i decided to spray one of my friends with two shots of Turn up the heat 5mg sprays. He is currently dieting for a comp and is using a very large amount of anabolics to keep his muscle mass, so he has a very large amount of testosteone floating around his body. He went out last night to pick up as he usually does and ended up in two fights in one club within 30 mins. He isn’t a naturally aggressive guy, and as he has been using steroids for such a long period of time, he can quite well control his ‘roid rage’. when he’s in shape, he has no problem ever picking up girls in a club, especially those who are looking for a one night stand. He’s not a pick up artist in the smooth running sets etc type of way, but more of a very muscular, wear a tight shirt and get all the attention sort of way. so my question kind of relates to weather someone who is using steroids and has huge amounts of testoserone in his body, should not need to use pheromones. i read in a very old post by MHarris that pheromones are an off product of testosterone in your body. So obviously using external sources of testosterone means that your naturally converting the steroids in your body to pheromones. Im sorry if this a completely incorrect statement, but thats just my assumption. And please don’t think im endorsing steroid use to anyone on this forum in anyway whatsoever, it’s just that im feeling bad for spraying him with the [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/), and think i might added fuel to the fire by doing so and caused him to get into those fights. I have read articles about ‘none’ rage and think that it might aggriviate the aggression caused by using large quantites of these external sources of testosterone. Could anyone please shed some light on this topic. Im sorry if anyone finds this topic inappropriate, its just like i said, i can’t really go to the corner shop and get some advice on this, and i don’t want to give any more of my friends any Ammo or Turn up the heat in case they react the same way. Thank You ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-steroid-use/26978/2 "2009-03-12T08:45:33Z")
I can tell you from direct experience that steroids do NOT increase/improve your [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). However, I would be damn careful of none rage when your juicing. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-steroid-use/26978/3 "2009-03-12T13:00:10Z")
Your theory is most probably correct. High testosterone will imply high anone. One of the well documented effects of high doses of anone is to increase agression in other males. This could be exacerbated by a muscular, challenging, build and presence. I think if the reaction with tuth was substantialy different than without you can safely attribute the difference to tuth. If you want more convincing and your friend is willing run 2 more tests. on one spray your friend with a cologne with no pheormones, on the other another dose of tuth. See if you note differences. Personally, I wouldn’t need any more convincing. ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-steroid-use/26978/4 "2009-03-12T14:39:33Z")
your friend might have gotten into a fight cause the other dudes were being haters regardless of TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![facko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b3f665/32.png) [@facko](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/facko)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-steroid-use/26978/5 "2009-03-13T18:36:27Z")
From direct experience as well, anabolics will not influence them one way or the other. What you have to examine here is your buddy is massive and therefore already attracts attention from females and males. That’s a major masculine trait, add androstenone to the mix and you now have two very strong masculine signals. Add a club atmosphere and it’s common for guys to pick out the biggest or baddest looking guy and a pick a fight, sort of a like challenging the pack leader mentality. Although this sounds primitive, never forget that people are animals by nature, and logic can be phased out easily when alcohol is involved in a club atmosphere. ---
**Author:** ![AK\_47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ak_47/32/819_2.png) [@AK\_47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AK_47)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-steroid-use/26978/6 "2009-11-19T05:01:24Z")
What about the reverse…check this out… > [@Can Mones make you test positive for steroid?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/8): > > I’m pretty sure the answer will be no… Pheromones don’t enter your bloodstream. It would be the same likelihood of testing positive simply for being particularly sweaty and smelly slight_smile