# Pheromones and their relation to their owner **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 19, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702 "2011-01-19T16:05:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rbarker87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7feea3/32.png) [@Rbarker87](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbarker87)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/1 "2011-01-19T16:05:14Z")
One other question I was wondering about was how do these mones affect people around you? Anotherwords, you apply TUTH or A314 and you go into a group of people (guys, girls), pretending it affects all the ladies, do they all just go for you, or for the cutest or most attractive guy in their minds? I know that when they move off to go talk or do whatever that the initial connection they made may wear off (as you’re the one wearing the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/), not anyone else). I guess what I am trying to ask is if the pheromone makes a “connection” with the person who’s wearing it. I know that sounds weird, but I didn’t know if we each put our own unique signature on this stuff. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/2 "2011-01-19T16:54:30Z")
Are you asking if everyone in the group knows that the signature is coming from you? Well if you move into a group and the signature wasn’t there until you got there then yes they would know it’s from you. If you are standing near someone and a female approaches, then the person that was the most congruent with the signature would get the hit. That’s how signatures occasionally get stolen. If I were IS/A the girl that is closest to me would steal the signature normally. Sometimes some [pheromones](https://a314.com/)/putatives seem to just have an area of effect that may not link to anyone. IH affects people around you whether they are talking to you or not. However normally attraction putatives and pheromones have to be attached to someone. Having said that, I have worn IS/A and B and the girl I’m interacting with will get the self effects of the product. I don’t know why that works. ---
**Author:** ![Rbarker87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7feea3/32.png) [@Rbarker87](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbarker87)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/3 "2011-01-19T17:14:23Z")
Gotcha and yeah I am sorry for the confusion. What you’re saying makes sense “if you walk up and you have a good signature, they’d pick up its you”. I was just wanting to not make my own job harder by putting off something that everyone in a group benefits from lol. Anotherwords I load up on AMMO or TUTH or something, but I am in a group of 20 people, all the ladies are trigged by the affect, but can’t tell who its from and just pickup whoever they feel is the best in their mind (almost making the pheromone affect null/void and a giving others a freebie 😉 lol). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/4 "2011-01-19T18:02:08Z")
> [@Rbarker87](#): > > Gotcha and yeah I am sorry for the confusion. What you’re saying makes sense “if you walk up and you have a good signature, they’d pick up its you”. I was just wanting to not make my own job harder by putting off something that everyone in a group benefits from lol. Anotherwords I load up on AMMO or TUTH or something, but I am in a group of 20 people, all the ladies are trigged by the affect, but can’t tell who its from and just pickup whoever they feel is the best in their mind (almost making the pheromone affect null/void and a giving others a freebie 😉 lol). That’s just plain silly. #1) There is something in human nature called “social proof” - if the group is cool, you are cool because you’re with them. #2) Don’t think just because the group is cool that you look like a jackass. What will make you look like a jackass is not wanting your group to look cool as a whole. #3) We are pack animals, deal with it. #4) I spray my friends sometimes, as many here do. You want your wingman armed don’t you? But to answer your question it depends on what diffusion pattern. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/5 "2011-01-19T18:34:14Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > That’s just plain silly. > > #1) There is something in human nature called “social proof” - if the group is cool, you are cool because you’re with them. > > #2) Don’t think just because the group is cool that you look like a jackass. What will make you look like a jackass is not wanting your group to look cool as a whole. > > #3) We are pack animals, deal with it. > > #4) I spray my friends sometimes, as many here do. You want your wingman armed don’t you? > > But to answer your question it depends on what diffusion pattern. I always spray my wingmen, some ammo or a314. I go with ammo + IS or Mx301, hahahah ---
**Author:** ![Rbarker87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7feea3/32.png) [@Rbarker87](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbarker87)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/6 "2011-01-19T19:54:05Z")
Well put and understood 😃 thanks ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/7 "2011-01-19T20:25:41Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > But to answer your question it depends on what diffusion pattern. Diffusion pattern, that’s the term I was looking for. Diffusion determines how easy it is for a person to locate where the signature is coming from. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/8 "2011-01-20T10:43:14Z")
Actually its sillage not the diffusion pattern that leads them to you. Sillage is a vapor trail we all have one and leave one. This thread should help you get a better understanding. > [@I dont understand...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698): > > OK… I am new to this pheromone stuff… so dont mistake this honest question as being just silly… I really dont understand this. If you are in a regular sized living room with 10 people in it and someone lets out a fart… everyone would smell it… but no one would know who it belongs to… eventually you have to ask this question: “OK who cut one?” We would definitely notice it… and it would likely affect our behavior such as fanning the air with your hand, or opening a window, or pinching our nose… > [@](#): > > I load up on AMMO or TUTH or something, but I am in a group of 20 people, all the ladies are trigged by the affect, but can’t tell who its from and just pickup whoever they feel is the best in their mind People misunderstand TUTH a lot. It arouses and signals masculinity. That’s it. I never found it be highly attractive although all pheromones attract to some extent. TUTH has no real pull to it though at least not like AMMO. I am not saying its not a good product its excellent for what its intended for. So if your in a group of people all the women and suppose all of the women are effected, they will feel aroused but not necessarily by you. This is something I tested with TUTH a lot in groups. Its also why I tell people to wear a social with it to create more pull to you. Something like Ishine IO or IH go’s a long way in creating comfort and attraction so that your Tuth can get in there and heat them up. Its another reason why in the store they say best used on those who have a comfort level with you. If they have a comfort level with you they are already attracted to some extent so there attention is already drawn to you. Ammo is different it has quite a bit of anol in it already to create that pull which is why its such a well rounded all in one product. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![dj6230](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ba0ec/32.png) [@dj6230](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dj6230)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 12:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/9 "2011-01-20T12:01:45Z")
Haven’t read much here, so I just borrow this thread. I saw on a documentary from Discover that women can unconsciously perceive, the man’s DNA from the pheromones he sends out, which affect her unconscious decision to whether she feels attracted or not. As most of us know, attraction is based on getting the opposite sex with the genetict we miss, to complete our mission to make a better next generation. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 12:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/10 "2011-01-20T12:31:10Z")
> [@dj6230](#): > > Haven’t read much here, so I just borrow this thread. > > I saw on a documentary from Discover that women can unconsciously perceive, > the man’s DNA from the pheromones he sends out, which affect her unconscious decision to whether she feels attracted or not. > > As most of us know, attraction is based on getting the opposite sex with the genetict we miss, to complete our mission to make a better next generation. Thats part of it but researchers have also found the opposite so they haven’t narrowed it down which genes. Women are attracted to genes that are similar to there own and there fathers from what many studies are indicating now. I think its a mix of both myself both genes we have for compatibility and ones we dont have to strength the line. There are some links to studies showing women prefer similar genes in this thread. > [@Hmm...Curious...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hmm-curious/43671/11): > > There are conflicting opinions but here are the studies. [Women are attracted to men who smell like dad](http://www.syncrat.com/4jj) Martha McClintock is in the top of the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) research field. [Women attracted to men who smell like dad - 21 January 2002 - New Scientist](http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1815-women-attracted-to-men-who-smell-like-dad.html)[Paternally inherited HLA alleles are associated with women’s choice of male odor - Nature Genetics](http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v30/n2/abs/ng830.html)[MHC-assortative facial preferences in humans](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1626373/) This is a physiological response to the fathers behavior not pheromone signaling. There are tons of stud… Tisha ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/11 "2011-01-20T20:20:26Z")
I appreciate the time you put in this board Tisha, I do learn a lot reading your posts. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-their-relation-to-their-owner/44702/12 "2011-01-21T10:26:05Z")
Thank you. I learn a ton from all of you as well not just about pheromones. Honestly I probably need to get out more though cause I do spend a lot of time here and on my other forums. I mean I do go out to work everyday, go shopping, meet with the few clients I coach and out with the hubby but I dont get out to social events as much I used to. My non Internet peeps are starting to feel neglected. I am gonna have to live till at least 200 because there are just to many things I wanna do and explore and just not enough time to fit them in this one little life LOL 😉 Tisha