# Pheromones are not made for open air? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-are-not-made-for-open-air/59812 "2013-08-16T14:49:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-are-not-made-for-open-air/59812/1 "2013-08-16T14:49:13Z")
When searching the forums it is often advised to use [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) inside only, because pheromones do not work on open air. But when look back to the origin of pheromones - the nature has created pheromones to control animals behavior. But animals usually live on open air and especially lepidopterans can find each other miles away through pheromones. And moreover I could not imagine that the nature has developed pheromones for the humans in the late20th / early 21th century that they can reproduce it synthetic to turn the opposite sex. So why pheromones should not work on open air??? ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-are-not-made-for-open-air/59812/2 "2013-08-16T16:47:43Z")
Where did you see a statement about them not working in the open air? While I agree, I have used them indoors for the most part, they do work outdoors as well - the only exception I could think of is when it is raining heavily. I am not so sure how much the wind affects the perception, but I believe that once you find yourself in a hurricane, the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) effectiveness is the least of your concerns. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-are-not-made-for-open-air/59812/3 "2013-08-16T17:01:36Z")
They work in open air just not always as quickly as in an smaller enclosed environment. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-are-not-made-for-open-air/59812/4 "2013-08-16T20:52:38Z")
Ya all got a point. Wind is a huge problem, unless you can position yourself so the wind blows in target direction without anyone noticing. For outdoors with medium strong wind I sometimes use 200-300% the normal dosage and get normal effects when the wind blows and od effects when it doesn’t. If I use normal dosage I barely get any effects unless there’s absolutely no wind. I’m a daygamer and love street game and sometimes on windy days I don’t even bother using mones. But you’re right, a general statement like pheromones do not work outdoors is false. Peace ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-are-not-made-for-open-air/59812/5 "2013-08-17T05:25:44Z")
Yes, pheros still work but the far greater air volume and air movement means they diffuse away from you much faster - so the overall impact is far less. What I find is that you need to work much closer than you would indoors and look to natural shelter to preserve your phero cloud. A still, warm day will still give you reasonable performance compared to a cold and windy one though. I also find that more complex mixes are far less useful outdoors - keep it simple and direct all the way. 🙂 And the opposite of this of course is very enclosed spaces with more limited air movement - cars and the like. The effect of pheros is far greater, to the point where you need to dose right down.