# Pheromones enhance what's already there, they don't change it: a reality check **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [February 29, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326 "2008-02-29T16:46:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Lioness77](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lioness77/32/462_2.png) [@Lioness77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lioness77)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/61 "2009-03-15T15:21:49Z")
Tish I always love how you explain everything. Good post, is very helpful, i used it as a reminder of what pheros can do and can’t. Because sometimes i forget and i feel dissapointed. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![SomeRedHeadChick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someredheadchick/32/1902_2.png) [@SomeRedHeadChick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeRedHeadChick)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/62 "2009-03-15T19:53:47Z")
Oh Tisha lol I was using my question “would you really…” just to make a point - I didn’t expect an answer but awesome you gave me one. 🙂 I have a habit of asking questions I never expect answered. I guess I just ask them to make the person think. To add to the getting hit on and I’m 30, living in an army town where there are lots of rotating deployments. One unit leaves & the other comes home in months of each other - they are rarely here at the same time. I get hit on more here than I ever did anywhere else. Do I think the central Texas air carries my pheromones in waves? lol no (see I did it again Tisha! lol) But I don’t think that’s anything but sexual frustration by aggressive young men that just spent over a year or year & half with nothing but other young men like them. The only women they have contact with are female soldiers and limited female civilians. The female soldiers have to portray a masculine image by nature while there (though hanky panky still goes on lol) and the civilian women are covered head to toe. They come home and suddenly this mildly attractive redhead, with groomed hair is in the frozen food asile, in a dress and you can see her knee caps! LOL Now add she’s wearing instant sexyness A pheremones. That’s the reason i’ve chosen to stay away from using instant sexyness A anywhere around here. On occassion - I am honestly flattered by some hit ons; but It’s simply for my real ego lol like ya said. LOL My surroundings and enviroment are a little different I think than your average woman. I said all that LOOOOOONNNGGGG stuff to say this, I think all the things you’ve said are so true! I also think your enviroment, the situations of those around you, also plays a big part in the effect of your pheremones. ---
**Author:** ![slh100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@slh100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slh100)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/63 "2009-12-02T03:57:57Z")
I have just lowered the bar. LOL, great post. ---
**Author:** ![armotech2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/65b543/32.png) [@armotech2002](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/armotech2002)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/64 "2010-12-04T13:12:14Z")
hi, im jeremy, im new to the pheromone world, a lot of what you’ve said makes perfect sense and is common sense. im just wondering as to what i should wear to events like dances or one on one and how they would work what do u adivse? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/65 "2010-12-04T14:53:29Z")
> [@armotech2002](#): > > hi, > im jeremy, im new to the pheromone world, a lot of what you’ve said makes perfect sense and is common sense. im just wondering as to what i should wear to events like dances or one on one and how they would work what do u adivse? Hi Jeremy. Yes it is common sense and everybody has it they just dont alwasy use it LOL 😉 First let me remind you to go on up to the introduction section of the forum and do a intro. Tell us a bit about your personality and what effects your looking for with mones. This way you get a $25 GC to the store which will get you 2 to-go size products almost free. Plus it makes it easier for us to point you to products that will fit your needs. I think you should start out with the basics. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for a sexy interesting masculine cool vibe and IO to increase interaction and add comfort and fun. For one on one encounters it depends. You can use Ammo which is mildly arousing or if your date has a good comfort level with you, you can try TUTH which is more masculine and sexual. I still suggest you get the IO to go with either. If you have more specific needs let us know and we will point towards the products that work the best for those needs Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Nagrarok87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/df788c/32.png) [@Nagrarok87](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nagrarok87)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/66 "2010-12-06T19:32:47Z")
Yeah, good stuff. Besides, people shouldnt set high expectations on ANYTHING. Thanks for your ‘lecture’! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/67 "2010-12-07T00:16:00Z")
Tisha likes to lecture. Just make sure you bring her an “apple” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Alkimos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c57346/32.png) [@Alkimos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alkimos)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/68 "2011-01-03T12:18:09Z")
Hello tisha23, If that is your pic, may I speak freely?..WOW. Seriously, I have not found any of the pheromones to work, but in all fairness I think the fault is mine. First I live in a retirement village(a 67 I’m the youngest one there) and I don’t expect the 88 and 90+ to get worked up! But there are three girls who work there and they are very sweet. I’d hoped - not for a date but just a sliight reaction of some kind, the one you could only pick up on a Tricorder(Star Trek) but I’m not as good as a tricorder and I thought there was a little more friendliness on there part but I can’t be sure. I think maybe I need to be in a social event(at 67!). I did meet a warm friendley girl on a bush walk once and I could tell she liked me by an exersise in absolute trust, a game she suggested Involving holding hands closing my eyes and trusting that she would lead me along the hazardist bush track without getting me hurt. I trusted her implicitly Then we reversed rolls. She came, to my surprise, to the law court to support me after I had an accident. She was just loverly but I was in a horrible marriage so I couldnt take it further. I looked up on the AEC computer but she must have got married. The point is after all this talk is that pheromone may have worked very well. I am going ta stop using Androtics till there is a better time. I’ll use Pherlure insteed just as a cogne however. Sorry to rave on so, but it’s good to talk about it. P.S. It’s nicer talking to a girl because they can see what I’m doing wrong maybe. REX > [@tisha23](#): > > A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with pheromone products. New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high. > > But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "_they couldn’t get there cheating husband to respond to pheromones"_ or why _“the girl picked my best friend over me even though I have the pheromones on”._ > > The answer is simple, pheromones don’t change anything, they enhance whats already there. They make socialization easier. If there is attraction they can enhance that. If there is interest it can push that to attraction etc etc. > > Now don’t get me wrong, I love each and every PM I get and I try to answer everyone the best I can. But I always feel bad when people expect so much more then is possible with just pheromones. It also ticks me off a little when those high expectations cause them to give up on pheromones because they are missing out on what they can really do for them which is a lot. > > So, this is what… > > If your in a good relationship, pheromones **can** enhance that. They can arouse and bring about more intimacy. They can help to open up communications and add some excitement and fun. Yes they can even make sex more frequent and hot. > > If your in a bad relationship that is riddled with other serious problems or obstacles pheromones may arouse or comfort but they **cant** change that problem or the other persons feelings. Keep in mind, you may be able to arouse that person with pheromones but there was attraction there to begin with or they wouldn’t have been with you. Arousal will not change a persons mind even if they act on that arousal. > > … > > When out wearing pheromones in public, you will get reactions that range from subtle to the occasional strong hit. You will get more attention. But girls wont lose all inhibitions and begin stalking you or groping your leg. Men wont slay dragons or leave there spouse to claim you. The pheromones will just add ease ,comfort, interest and arousal. Along with this you need to take into consideration the other things that cause attraction. Visualization, compatibility, availability etc. > > pheromones **can** make you more attractive but they **cant** change a persons tastes, Suppose a person prefers blond hair or tall people, pheromones wont change their preference and if that preference is strong enough they may ignore the feelings the pheromones cause them to feel. If the preference isn’t that strong it can give you a edge and a opportunity to win them over despite the preference. > > They **can** make you open up and talk but they **cant** make you compatible. > If you have nothing to talk about or nothing in common all the Instant Openness or Instant Honesty in the world wont change that. **Can** pheromones make a shy person talk more??? **Yes** if the shy person has something to say to you and a desire to speak to you. > > They **can** arouse the hot girl/guy across the room but if they are together it **cant** make one of them available. People have morals (at least some do LOL) you may walk into the room looking hot as hell and smelling like a sex god/goddess but if someone has feelings for another person they wont act on that vibe your sending. > > **So what can they do for you???** They can attract, arouse, calm, uplift, cause comfort, cause interest, enhance and generally just make socialization a whole lot easier. They are one small part of attraction but they wont do all the work for you. > > I often get the question of why didn’t my pheromones work ??? Then I find out where they wore them to 😛 > > _Why didn’t my Turn Up The Heat or Copulin mix work in church ?_ Because people have self control. They are not going to hit on you sexually in church with the old ladies and priest looking on no matter how hot you look. > > _WHY doesn’t my Instant Openness work in school ???_ > Because talking in class is not smiled upon > > _I used my copulin or Androstenone mix at work with no response_ > Work is not the place to be arousing people. There are sexual harassment laws at least here in the USA. People are careful including women of how they act at work or who they become involved with. They will mask there feelings strongly in this environment. Granted my work is a bit different but it was that way before any of us used pheromones. > > I _wore Instant Shine to a funeral and no one seemed to feel better._ > WTF do you expect, LOL > > _I wore ammo and Instant Shine and my brothers GF was nicer but she still hates me._ > pheromones cant change every ones feelings for you. Sure they can help her to be nicer perhaps but they cant make her like you. > > Environment makes a huge difference, We are humans and have been conditioned to react and act in a certain way in certain environments. > > **Being congruent and making the effort.** > > This is also important. Suppose you wear Instant Openness but you sit in the corner not looking very approachable. Or you have on AMMO and someone keeps making eye contact but you don’t smile or make any eye contact back. Your sending out mixed messages. On one hand people are getting a vibe that you are friendly and approachable. But your body language is sending another signal. > > When you see subtle cues from others , this is the time to make your move. The pheromones will give you a edge but they will not do it all for you. pheromones help to give you more of a opportunity a opening but you need to make the effort. If your wearing Instant sexiness or ammo and someone makes eye contact with you smile. Appear approachable. If your wearing Instant Openness and someone says something mundane reply. pheromones may effect people but it cant make them good at approaching you. They usually are just looking for a opening to speak to you. > > I wear pheromones just about everyday. I don’t get hit on everyday. Every single time I wear copulins my husband doesn’t respond. Sometimes he is tired or busy. > > I am exposed to other people who wear pheromones frequently. I do feel reactions but I don’t forget who I am, what I like and what I believe in. > > Think of your pheromones as just one more tool in your arsenal for self improvement. Like your hair gel, makeup, your push up bra and bowflex. Use them to enhance who you already are. Don’t just spray them on and sit and wait for your world to change > > I believe that every person (especially in this forum) has something wonderful and special about them. I believe pheromones are a fantastic tool to help us unleash all those inner qualities and help others take notice of them. > > Keep these things in mind when you use pheromones and especially when your new and getting ready to buy them for the first time. > > Don’t wait for your pheromones to work, Learn to work your pheromones 😃 > > OK, Lecture over class dismissed LOL . > > Tisha ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/69 "2011-01-04T00:19:53Z")
> [@Alkimos](#): > > Hello tisha23, If that is your pic, may I speak freely?..WOW. > Seriously, I have not found any of the pheromones to work, but in all fairness I think the fault is mine. First I live in a retirement village(a 67 I’m the youngest one there) and I don’t expect the 88 and 90+ to get worked up! But there are three girls who work there and they are very sweet. I’d hoped - not for a date but just a sliight reaction of some kind, the one you could only pick up on a Tricorder(Star Trek) but I’m not as good as a tricorder and I thought there was a little more friendliness on there part but I can’t be sure. I think maybe I need to be in a social event(at 67!). I did meet a warm friendley girl on a bush walk once and I could tell she liked me by an exersise in absolute trust, a game she suggested Involving holding hands closing my eyes and trusting that she would lead me along the hazardist bush track without getting me hurt. I trusted her implicitly > Then we reversed rolls. She came, to my surprise, to the law court to support me after I had an accident. She was just loverly but I was in a horrible marriage so I couldnt take it further. I looked up on the AEC computer but she must have got married. The point is after all this talk is that pheromone may have worked very well. I am going ta stop using Androtics till there is a better time. I’ll use Pherlure insteed just as a cogne however. Sorry to rave on so, but it’s good to talk about it. > P.S. It’s nicer talking to a girl because they can see what I’m doing wrong maybe. > REX Hi There REX Thank you. 😉 Well I agree your living environment is not exactly the best place to test mones. Not because they wont effect 80 to 90 year olds, depending on there health they can but I dont think your interested in that age range. Frankly I am surprised with your being the youngest male there they are not chasing you around without the pheromones LOL You mentioned that the girls who worked there seemed a little more friendly. You have to remember they are in their working environment and conditioned to think and react a certain way. The 90 set is probably always flirting with them as well so they are used to it, Those 90 year olds can get away with murder 😃 LOL It also depends on exactly what you were wearing. Were they AD mones or something else. What mixes were they ? Around how much did you use ? Sounds like the mones may have been a factor with the lady you met on the bush walk, the timing was just off. I dont think your doing anything wrong really. You just need to get out there in the right environment with the correct mones on to give you a little edge. I suggest you start looking into social functions in your area outside of the retirement village if possible. I dont know your religious background but churches are one place women are on the prowl in the 40 to 60 range. 😃 My best friend told me his dad just go’s just to pick up women LOL ( he is not really religious) and he has to beat the women off with a stick. He is 70 something. Your town probably has a community center that offers functions and day trips for people of all ages. My parents were members of a local retirement club and they always have functions. She hasn’t gone much since he has passed though. If your looking for someone your gonna have to get out there because they are not going to come knocking on your door looking for you. That’s true of any age group. Pheromones wont do all the work but they can help when you do get out there. They have to-go bottles here that are very inexpensive. They have 40 sprays in them and since you will only need them when your going out thats plenty. Pherlure is not an effective product for your age group or any age group for that matter. You can spend your money more wisely on other more effective products even if you decide not to get them here. Products I suggest for you here. Ishine IG and maybe some TUTH. I prefer AMMO but thats out of stock right now. Did you do a introduction in the intro section at the top of the forum ? If not do that so you can get a $25 Gift Certificate. This will get you two to-go bottles practically free to try out. If you need help or have questions let me know. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![SpongeBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90db22/32.png) [@SpongeBob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SpongeBob)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/70 "2011-09-27T21:02:30Z")
makes sense to me 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Brian88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@Brian88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Brian88)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/71 "2011-11-28T06:57:41Z")
Amen haha 🙂 I found a new site I’m getting addicted to. Oasis said something to the effect it helps create opportunities. I think it’s an additional benefit you can add to your environment, but you still have to be practical and put in the work. Sort of like how a favorite suit can make your energy and personality change. ---
**Author:** ![hankypanky2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hankypanky2/32/597_2.png) [@hankypanky2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hankypanky2)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/72 "2013-11-07T11:14:05Z")
good thread ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 11:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/73 "2013-11-07T11:50:28Z")
> [@hankypanky2](#): > > good thread Stop. Spamming. The. Forum. Please leave. ---
**Author:** ![Journee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Journee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journee)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/74 "2014-07-24T17:15:03Z")
Great post! Thanks for sharing this information. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/75 "2014-07-24T18:17:00Z")
> [@Journee](#): > > Great post! Thanks for sharing this information. You should have a search back through Tisha’s posts - She’s not very active just now but has posted some absolutely first class advice that you will find very useful. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Journee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Journee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journee)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/76 "2014-07-24T18:45:20Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > You should have a search back through Tisha’s posts - She’s not very active just now but has posted some absolutely first class advice that you will find very useful. 🙂 I sure will do that. Thank you so much again 😃 ---
**Author:** ![xSkInNeRx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xskinnerx/32/1775_2.png) [@xSkInNeRx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xSkInNeRx)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/77 "2014-12-26T16:36:48Z")
Can the amount of testosterone vs estrogen affect the performance of the pheromones? If someone has More Testosterone than Estrogen in Woman or More Estrogen than Testosterone in Man Could that affect how it will work? ---
**Author:** ![Hardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Hardy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hardy)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/78 "2017-03-06T05:19:09Z")
Very interesting put things into perspective, i was not too trusting of all the things pheromones were surpposed to do , tx.😉 ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyCage786](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@JohnnyCage786](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyCage786)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/79 "2017-11-29T04:03:38Z")
This was great. I think it helped me understand why I still sometimes don’t get the response I expect from using pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![antger1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@antger1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/antger1)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326/81 "2018-03-07T19:55:18Z")
I believe that pheromones do make the difference. However, as intelligent beings we have the ability to consciously and unconsciously suppress signals are body’s are sending us. The more open and less guarded a person is, the more susceptible they are to the effects of a certain pheromone (I believe there is a pheromone for sale that does that, wink wink). However if someone happens to be under the effect of alcohol, one’s guardedness tends to drop, which would make the pheromones work better in theory. This is just my rambling, if someone wants to test my theory and prove me right or wrong that would be awesome. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-enhance-whats-already-there-they-dont-change-it-a-reality-check/27326.md?page=5)