# Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 3, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832 "2006-11-03T17:40:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/21 "2006-12-19T17:51:50Z")

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With too much and/or unbuffered androstenone, you can get women to accuse you of sexual harassment, even though you did not do anything beyond what would be socially accepted. It’s just a reaction to unconsciously perceived sexual attraction which builds pressure on a conscious level. To reduce this action, a woman may only have three options:

1. Close the deal
2. Run away
3. Accuse you of what she unconsciously wants but consciously resists (maybe for good reasons)

Not to mention fights with other men…

The good thing is, if you behave congruently with your [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) signature, most men will follow you like puppets! Send them to get a drinks for the set you have just opened…

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**Author:** ![pleaseme2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pleaseme2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pleaseme2)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/22 "2007-01-26T05:44:28Z")

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I recently purchased A314 and have now just ordered: [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Turn Up The Heat, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, and Instant Shine.

I’ve found some of the posts on this thread very helpful. I’m just curious to know what you guys think of the following combinations… I should add that these combinations are somewhat tailored to my own personality.

Any suggestions about increasing or diminishing the number of sprays in any one of the following combinations? I believe I read somewhere that applying too much pheromones can have negative effects? How much is too much?

The number inside the parentheses indicates the number of sprays/drops I intend to use.

ATTRACTION: Instant Openness (3) Instant Shine (1) Instant Female Magic (3) A314 (1)

COMFORT: Instant Openness (2) Instant Shine (2) Instant Female Magic (2) Instant Honesty (2)

SEDUCTION: Instant Openness (1) Instant Shine (3) Instant Female Magic (2) Turn Up The Heat (2)

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**Author:** ![madmanbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@madmanbean](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/madmanbean)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/23 "2007-01-27T19:05:28Z")

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Hmm just found this site whilst doing some research into these pheremones..seems that every mention on here is for one product manufacturer. A good general guide can be found at [Pherlure or Pherelure Pheramone Pheromone pheromones, pheramone perfume, cologne and pheromones, pheromone cologne, what are pheromones, about pheromones, human pheromone, human pheromones, pheromone perfume A review of the best pheremone products to](http://www.attract-women.co.uk/pheromones.htm) where all makes are rated

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/24 "2007-01-27T21:20:45Z")

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> [@madmanbean](#):
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> Hmm just found this site whilst doing some research into these pheremones..seems that every mention on here is for one product manufacturer. A good general guide can be found where all makes are rated

Every mention here is for one product manufacturer?  
This can’t be further from the truth actually.  
Here we mention products from more than one manufacturer actually.  
Hey even I myself mentioned products from at least one other manufacturer and asked about another too.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/25 "2007-01-28T00:16:33Z")

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I’ve noticed that some of those “evaluation sites” not only pick a “winner” but handily provide links to buy it… And they are all generally products I’ve never heard of… even the “losers”… Hmmmm…

Can you say “marketing gimmick?”

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/26 "2007-01-29T17:22:47Z")

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> [@Rbt](#):
>
> I’ve noticed that some of those “evaluation sites” not only pick a “winner” but handily provide links to buy it… And they are all generally products I’ve never heard of… even the “losers”… Hmmmm…
> 
> Can you say “marketing gimmick?”

They also have affiliate links, which means that they make money of the sales. Can it be called unbiased? Let me see, so if product x doesn’t provide me with an affiliate status, I don’t mention it because it won’t earn me money…

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**Author:** ![rtype6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rtype6](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtype6)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/27 "2007-04-12T22:26:04Z")

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Hello, I just got my order of Turn Up The Heat & Ammunition Double Strength in.

I’m so excited. Here’s my scenario. Tomorrow (Fri) and Sat night I’m going clubbing. Since I’ve never used any of these products before, should I start off with one spray of Double Ammunition on Friday?

I think Friday is more of my lucky night of finding women. I know that since both sprays contain the same chemical, I can overdose if both are applied.

Also, when I dress up, I wear long sleeve shirts which cover my wrists. Is it still effective if spraying on wrist then covering it up? Or should I spray it somewhere else?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/28 "2007-04-13T01:27:55Z")

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[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a good choice, but not sure how much I’d use. 2 sprays of double strength in a club environment might be a good place to start for experimenation.

Neck/chest area for one spray for sure. You can do your wrists, and move your hands/arms around to diffuse. Covering with a light-weight shirt may not be all that bad. (A heavy parka on the other hand…)

You could go for broke and try three sprays… Applications to the hair are sometimes used as well for it’s good diffusion, but there is always a chance it’s too high to reach nose level.

(You can try one spray to wrists [wipe together] and two to neck, wiping wrists along neck to spread and also get a slight extra dose on wrists. Or something like that.)

Just some thoughts.

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 1:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/29 "2007-04-13T01:35:38Z")

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Is Ammo’s scent really intense?

I was thinking of trying it (based on the description and the glowing reviews), but I’m not much into heavy colognes.

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**Author:** ![rtype6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rtype6](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtype6)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/30 "2007-04-13T02:10:08Z")

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Is one spray on the neck good enough, or should I try 2?

How many sprays can I do without OD?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/31 "2007-04-13T02:17:19Z")

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I find Ammo’s scent a little on the strong side personally, and it is one of the only products I’ve worn to get any “scent” comments (fortunatley positive). I don’t think I’d mind a less-intense scent version.

I just tried TUTH yesterday and found that a little strong too. I’m starting to prefer the neroli scent packages, and use my own cologne cover when I want one. But then I’m a minimalist and not big on wearing scents at all. Prefer subtle.

But that’s me.

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**Author:** ![Z0R0XX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z0r0xx/32/1494_2.png) [@Z0R0XX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Z0R0XX)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/32 "2007-04-24T14:50:03Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
>
> I think this was a kick-ass post. Fantastic information. Rep points. 🙂
> 
> I like Come Talk To Me Mix 2 + Instant Shine for the first stage, but it may work with my chemistry because I have a high androstenone signature. I like it because it makes everything fun and life-of-the-party-ish. I don’t care if they’re attracted, I’m just having fun, and that seems to say I’m worth being interested in.
> 
> For comfort, I like Instant Honesty, Instant Shine, and A314.
> 
> Seduction, I’m presuming you’re referring to heterosexual women… I like A314, Turn Up The Heat, IShine, and CTTM2.
> 
> I have to learn more about some of the ones you’re suggesting, but I like them, and the suggestions you had look a lot like what I was planning for a future Seduction mix. lol

How does one know their pheromone signature?? According to Catlord he says he has a high androstenone signature.😕 😕

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/33 "2007-04-24T22:47:12Z")

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> [@Z0R0XX](#):
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> How does one know their pheromone signature?? According to Catlord he says he has a high androstenone signature.😕 😕

Experimentation. Experimenting with dosing of different [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) to find what works best. Finding OD dosing amounts, ideal amounts etc etc

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**Author:** ![MrNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MrNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MrNinja)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/34 "2007-06-04T19:35:06Z")

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I started with these pheromones long time ago. First of was Pherlure that dident really work at all and dident smell that good. Then i got Androstenone that dident work either. Some time went and i found a forum, maybe this or some else that only spoke about pheromones and they recomended chikara. Ordered some samples and tried with no luck either.

So now ive back again and bought the **Seduction mix of:** [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) + [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) + [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/).

So i wonder and hope. Will i get more luck and how should i apply this when they arrive. 3 bottles, pray of each other right? And were is the best place to apply them?

I dont really have mutch fate in these after 3 non working products so this will probably be my last try.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/35 "2007-06-04T23:06:27Z")

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Your results will vary, and it depends on what results you are looking for.

I’ve had some small positive reactions with products like Alter Ego and Chikara. Am currently trying out Ammunition, and just decided to take a chance on Aquagen.

Perception was a dud.

For me, so far, nothing has ended in a “seduction” of a physical nature. I’ve detected some positive reactions in terms of attention, conversation, and maybe some “interest.” But my number of “test subjects” in an appropriate age group for me (eg over 35) is very limited. I tested Ammunition at a convention recently, but a vast majority of attendees were high-school age and I’m around AARP age.

I also recently aquired some Turn Up The Heat and may be giving that go one of these days too.

Some people swear by AE, Chikara, etc. Others have sworn off them… or at them. Nothing is certain. And it’s always possible pheromones won’t do a thing for you. For some they work, others, nada. All you can do is try.

My observations.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/36 "2007-06-07T03:28:53Z")

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[Rbt: I’m starting to prefer the neroli scent packages, and use my own cologne cover when I want one.]

I basically feel the same way. The Ammo scent is good, I’ve never had a negative comment about it, but the [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) scent is covered easily by the colognes I prefer AND it is easily worn in situations where a heavy cologne scent is not considered appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/37 "2007-06-12T11:49:23Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Originally Posted by Jasmin  
> Which pheromones do you guys use for each phase of seduction, in terms of something like the Mystery Method or Neil Strauss’ Game?
> 
> We were thinking something like this:
> 
> Attraction: Instant Openness or Liquid Sunshine + Instant Shine + small amount of Turn Up The Heat
> 
> The IO or one of the Liquid Sunshine mixes would make people chatty, make 'em feel good
> 
> The Shine will make them feel even better. Increase the energy, and make you seem like one of those people everyone likes to be around. An optimistic, bright breath of fresh air.
> 
> The small amount of TUTH will let 'em know you’re not just a friend.
> 
> Comfort: IO + a small amount of Instant Shine, an even tinier amount of TUTH , maybe a little A314 or something based onMX102 through MX105 . Optional Instant Honesty
> 
> The Shine would keep it buzzy, non-boring.
> 
> The small amount of TUTH would help prevent friendism
> 
> A314 would add comfort, and position you as a classical man ( DHV ). I think the key would be using not too much. Maybe even less than 1 drop or 1 spray of MX102 is ideal. Our own Thomas Lavoie does something like this.
> 
> Instant Honesty would make her feel like she’s known you forever. A true comfort accelerator (but maybe too comfortable in high amounts?). (I’ve gotten a lot of feedback saying that A314 and Honesty are actually killer for mystery’s C3)
> 
> Seduction: TUTH + TAL + P79 . Optional: A little Shine and/or IO
> 
> The TUTH would add the sexual spark
> 
> The P79 would make 'em wanna do something about it, and reduce LMR
> 
> The TAL would make women aggressive and direct (chime in here, Taoist Biker and others!) and also reduce LMR .
> 
> What do you guys think?

hmmm I wonder where [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and TAF would fit in this model…

Visionary

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**Author:** ![icefire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/icefire/32/2139_2.png) [@icefire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/icefire)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 10:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/38 "2007-07-18T10:52:30Z")

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I’ve just chosen Ammo and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). Now i’m waiting for the delivery. Lots of people from here gave me many suggestions about which pheromone can i buy?

I really appreciate for their help. I hope i chose the best.

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**Author:** ![richuroo43](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@richuroo43](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/richuroo43)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/39 "2007-07-25T21:12:22Z")

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Is A314 a good pheromone to start off with

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/40 "2007-07-25T21:15:41Z")

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> [@richuroo43](#):
>
> Is A314 a good pheromone to start off with

It isn’t a single pheromone. But it’s a GOOD PRODUCT.. definitely…

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