# Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 3, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832 "2006-11-03T17:40:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Koomhamada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a698b9/32.png) [@Koomhamada](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Koomhamada)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/81 "2009-03-28T05:19:34Z")
My vote goes for “Turn Up The Heat” it really worked for me.😉 Alpha A314 I did not experiment with it yet I will use it and report on it. ## =================== You better stand back, I don’t know how big this thing gets?? First thing Adam said to Eve ---
**Author:** ![Neil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/839c29/32.png) [@Neil](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Neil)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/82 "2009-03-28T23:43:52Z")
I recently found out that there’s a really famous pick up artist that invented his own pick up artist cologne. He had it at the PUA Summit last year and gave a bottle to all the top PUAs in the industry including Mystery, Sinn, Adam Lyons, and a bunch others and they all loved it. I saw a youtube video of Sinn actually saying how great it was. Has anyone here used it yet? I heard really great things and ordered a bottle, so far it smells amazing and girls seem to open up much better when I wear it verses when I don’t. AttractionSpell - by Johnny Wolf Oh yeah, the reason why I bought it is because my wing Slider used it and got his first cold approach lay while on it! ---
**Author:** ![Ezballaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Ezballaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ezballaz)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/83 "2009-03-29T22:26:06Z")
It seems women are a intimidated to talk to me, but I am kinda shy to approach them. I tried instant shine to go, instant honesty to go, ammunition to go, instant openness and turn up the heat, but it just seems like that made them stay back more. I get some looks but then they look away… Is there anything I can use Maybe to get them to come talk. ---
**Author:** ![Koomhamada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a698b9/32.png) [@Koomhamada](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Koomhamada)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/84 "2009-03-30T00:46:52Z")
I think Pheromone by itself is not going to help you. Most women are shy by nature. In my experience I supplement the pheromone with Nice smile, Start the conversation yourself. Ask open end questions not closed end question. Turn Up The Heat and saying some thing nice about themselves and asking open end questions to encourage to keep the conversation going is working for me. > [@](#): > > Smile is the curve line which makes > every thing straight. > > Author is unknown ---
**Author:** ![Neil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/839c29/32.png) [@Neil](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Neil)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/85 "2009-03-30T16:32:10Z")
> [@Ezballaz](#): > > It seems women are a intimidated to talk to me, but I am kinda shy to approach them. I tried instant shine to go, instant honesty to go, ammunition to go, instant openness and turn up the heat, but it just seems like that made them stay back more. I get some looks but then they look away… > Is there anything I can use > Maybe to get them to come talk. I was the exact same way as you Ezballaz, one of the reasons why I ended up buying seduction spell was because Johnny Wolf included an eBook on how to use the cologne and pheromones in pickup and talking to a girl. I used all of the openers and pick up lines he mentioned in the book one day at the mall and I was really surprised how well it worked! The girls would all instantly open up and talk! I’m pretty sure I’m not supposed to share this…but when I bought Seduction Spell and was waiting for it to come int he mail I got a bunch of free bonuses as a gift including a video on how to properly apply cologne and pheromones as well as the ebook with all the secret openers to make the girls open up. But shh…don’t’ tell anyone I shared this with you. But I think it’ll be okay, since these are the free bonuses anyways, if you like it you’ll end up ordering seduction spell anyways like I did. ---
**Author:** ![mamba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@mamba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mamba)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/86 "2009-04-03T16:16:01Z")
purchased one bottle of pherlure at the same time as instant shine, instant opennes alpha 314. received and tested the latter three many times, still waiting for phelure delivery. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 11:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/87 "2009-04-13T11:41:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Socrates > Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction > Jasmin (November 3, 2006): > "Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction > Which pheromones do you guys use for each phase of seduction, in terms of something like the Mystery Method or Neil Strauss’ Game? > > We were thinking something like this: > > Attraction: Instant Openness or Liquid Sunshine + Instant Shine + small amount of Turn Up The Heat > > The Instant Openness or one of the Liquid Sunshine mixes would make people chatty, make 'em feel good > > The Shine will make them feel even better. Increase the energy, and make you seem like one of those people everyone likes to be around. An optimistic, bright breath of fresh air. > > The small amount of Turn Up The Heat will let 'em know you’re not just a friend. > > Comfort: Instant Openness + a small amount of Instant Shine, an even tinier amount of Turn Up The Heat , maybe a little A314 or something based on MX102 through MX105 . Optional Instant Honesty > > The Shine would keep it buzzy, non-boring. > > The small amount of Turn Up The Heat would help prevent friendism > > A314 would add comfort, and position you as a classical man ( DHV ). I think the key would be using not too much. Maybe even less than 1 drop or 1 spray of MX102 is ideal. Our own Thomas Lavoie does something like this. > > Instant Honesty would make her feel like she’s known you forever. A true comfort accelerator (but maybe too comfortable in high amounts?). (I’ve gotten a lot of feedback saying that A314 and Honesty are actually killer for mystery’s C3) > > Seduction: Turn Up The Heat + TAL + P79 . Optional: A little Shine and/or Instant Openness > > The Turn Up The Heat would add the sexual spark > > The P79 would make 'em wanna do something about it, and reduce LMR > > The TAL would make women aggressive and direct (chime in here, Taoist Biker and others!) and also reduce LMR . > > What do you guys think?" > > Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction > Gem (December 19, 2006): > "I don’t know pheromones but I do know game - here is my input, take it or leave it. > > It is important to understand the differences within the different sections of the Mystery method model: > > Attraction is A 1 (the opener), A2 (female to male attraction), A3 (Male to female attraction) > > Comfort - Can all be lumped together but is essentially building deeper raport and connection. > > # Seduction, is split into thre but only two are relevent - Getting her horny, and LMR (last minute resistance) > > A 1 - Instant openess, instant female magic or instant shine - baiscally all you are trying to do at this point is get the girl(s) to speak to you you so anything that relaxes her, opens her up or makes her feel good near you will work > > A2 - female to male attraction, I am not going to go into what builds attraction, but I will just say, you don’t want anything that makes her feel comfortable or connected to you (the secret is to make her feel you are better than her or unobtainable) so I suggest Turn Up The Heat or Instant jerk, or maybe even \>A314 if congruent with your personality. > > A3 - male to female attraction, at this point you want to show her she has won you over (not sexually) baisically this is where you first show attraction by complimenting her you want her to link compliments from you with feeling good so my pheromone of choice would be instant shine or female magic . > > Comfort - deeper raport, deep conversations, connection, shared experiences - Instant openess, Instant shine, Instant honesty … > > Seduction > > S1 - getting her hot, time to Turn Up The Heat (again), instant jerk, (basically sex pheromones > > S3 - LMR - This is when she wonders if she is doing the right thing (after all she only just met you) You DO NOT want to be winning her over by palying how horny she is feeling off against her will power (that is IMO immoral and inneffective) You want to reassure her - so once again you want some reassuring, feel good products (shine, Honesty, openess) > > Now, that is a fantasy situation - in reality you cannot change and remove pheromones that quickly for example the whole attraction phase can be run within the space of 20 seconds (trust me i have done it) So I suggest you identify your own sticking points within that framework and select the right pheromones from there. For instance my sticking point is A3 - I have no problem opening, I can build attraction easily - too easily that leads to the problem that girls think I am being insincere or playing with them once i begin to take an interest in them - so I would stick to Shine or openess to assist me and not use any sexual pheromones. > > Me personally - I will stay away from any sexual pheromones beyond our first meeting. It jsut seems a bit too much like pressuring someone into doing something they wouldn’t normally do becuase they get too horny and that doesn’t sit well with me. I like to guide all sexual encounters towards a meaningfull lasting relationship (open relationship), so I am prepared to wait and ensure she is 100% happy and has made the decision to escalate sexually with all the facts in place (including the fact that I am a PUA and will not commit to her). But that is just my personal Moral Stance so take it as you will. I would rather sleep well at night even if it means I don’t sleep with a different person each night. once i have already slept with a girl I will certainly use sexual pheromones to spice up the sex. > > The above recommendation is for MM style game (indirect), > > If your style is direct I would recommend just Turn Up The Heat or Instant Jerk if you can handle it…" Might P93 be a ‘third way’ (besides A314 and/or AndrostEnone) for A2 (female to male attraction) of the Mystery Method style game? P93 and status P93… yes, it exists… no, you can’t have it… tacitus (December 9, 2006): “Tried a blend of STRONG P93 , 150 mu , with a softener of Alpha Androstenol , TAA , and -Androsterone… fascinating mixture of interest and respect… guys were very deferential, women were intrigued, the dog really got into chewing on his tennis ball… people in the room seems to be strongly unconsciously cued off of my behavior and attitudes… I had little patience for trivial crap, a la P80 , but it was less authoritarian, less dark and looming… 150 mu is a lot of anything… women were unquestionably interested, thought I was “sexy and mysterious”… possibilities, I thunk to meself… this has possibilities…” Me, Me and P93 Jasmin (March 30, 2007): "…Optimistic feeling (even to women, says Nunya), but not approachable? Interesting. Maybe there’s a high status element to P93? High status generally = less approachable." Me, Me and P93 Nunya (March 30, 2007): "hmm..i can see toils point on approachability. As many compliments as I got (even from one strange girl who stopped her rather intense cell conversation to throw one to me) it didn’t promote chattiness. Not like P74 yesterday. Lots of smiley interaction tho. Now that i think about it, one of my super-talkative coworkers, came directly to my cube, asked what smelled like incense, sniffed my arm, decided it wasn’t me, and then disappeared as quickly as he came. usually he’ll stop and bs for a while. So yeah - I think i’ll concur with the high status thing." Me, Me and P93 Steve (March 30, 2007): "I’m going to pipe in here, only because I think I need to. I’ve been using P93 a few days now. Although I have been mixing it in with some other molecules and I can’t separate as a defining P93 moment, but I get high-status and approachability. High-status as in good enough for retired couple to show respect and yet receptive to allow me an invite into their family life. I’ve also got an interesting compliment from a young lady the other day. She approached me. Like I said I cannot relate this experience solely toP93 and perhaps it is buffered enough by the other molecules, but mixed testing has been interesting. I guess I’ll have to try a go at it alone and see what happens." Me, Me and P93 Nunya (March 30, 2007): “what else were you wearing p93 with Steveo? I was wearing A314 which would give the high status, and cleo which would give chattiness and approachability, but it seems status won out.” Me, Me and P93 toilofday (March 30, 2007): "I have found p93 raw to be decently unaproachable, even at 10 mcg. It’s not like people are afraid to talk to you, it’s more like they don’t want to bother you. The status element must be there. I never quite thought of it like that I have also noticed it to be EXTREMELY EASY to buffer. Just a little bit of anything friendly and the molocule turns right around…" P93’s ‘uplifting’ effects on women toilofday (July 31, 2007): "I love this thread! haha this sums everything up very nicely. My number 1 thought on p93 is that it takes the alpha male and turns it into what I call the alpha/beta male… aka , they alpha male that everybody likes. A mild shift with profound results. great post man." P93’s ‘uplifting’ effects on women "I tried p93 for the first time this weekend …In the morning I applied 3 togo sprays of p93 and went to the cafe with my girlfriend (27) , an old male friend of hers (27) …who was visiting from Sydney and a my girlfriends friend (21) … my girlfriend hooked them up the night before! Although i tried to put all iv read aside there was a noticeable alpha like effect with p93 …but not heavy or distancing like A314 .It seemed to enhance a friendly happy vibe in the group while placing me as a kind of leader.This could just be because im older than them.I’m not sure… I had never met this new guy but he has two degrees and a top job at a major art gallery.Hes also 6.1 and very good looking…and all weekend it was like he was my best buddy.I didnt notice any competitiveness at all…we had a really fun weekend the four of us. btw we had a picnic (same mix…next day) in the gardens close to a river.A big black swan come over and started acting very territorial and aggressive…and the first one he went for was me lol" P93 – Caucasian Attractant or The First Known Racist Pheromone? Warren (January 6, 2009): “…Given the diminished kinesthetics, I doubt that this aspect of P93 effects would be very sensual. Given that energy flow to the head is blocked, I doubt that it would be very spiritual except in a Calvanistic sense of the term. It would, however, make one appear attractive as a good team player who pulls his own weight and respects authority. It may enhance one’s status in so far as he appears to be part of the (once) dominant culture and is clearly not the image of a deadbeat or moral reprobate.” MX203 and status Forum Member Freebie Coupons 12/12/06 - 12/18/06 - P93 mix for men and A314 for Women Jasmin (December 12, 2006): “…1. The first pheromone test mix you get is MX203. This is heavy P93 based mix Michael made last week. Has lots of Alpha Androstenoland TAA , too. Comes in a base of what we’ve been calling our “PheroGame” cologne or Fragrance #6, which has similar notes to Cool Water, Unforgivable, Green Irish Tweed, etc. It’s a simple, but bazooka like mix…” Difference between MX200 and MX 203 smoothplayer (July 16, 2008): "MX203 makes white girls smiley/friendly and somewhat flirtatious. It is subtle MX , almost like a toned down version of Ammo (which is already pretty subtle)…but with absolutely no negative reactions that you would get from men. I find MX203 to be perfect when used with a touch of androstenone , like in combination with either Ammo or NPA. NPA + MX203 is the bomb simply because I can cover NPA with Armani Black Code, and the scent goes with the MX203 scent well. But I also use MX203 with Ammo with nice results. I just spray them both on my clothes, under the collar in the back of my shirt. MX203 is just awesome with white girls. It makes them open, almost like a toned down version of Spaceland + Ammo (which is another great mix). MX203 not only has no negatives on men, it also gets you respect and friendliness from guys also. I think it’s the status aspect of P93 that plays into it. I have plenty of threads/posts on MX203. It’s by far one of my favorite products. I would link them here, but I was just about to head out. If you click on Search, type in “MX203” and choose to search titles. You’ll surely find a lot of threads that are only about MX203. I don’t know much about 200 though." First Day of School Mix…NOT GOOD. LifeT (September 3, 2008): "it may be safer to just drop ammo and mx203 all together. i think -none is just too risky in a school environment no matter how tiny the amount. the P93 in the mx203 also has a tendency to create a ‘high status’ effect that’s quite anti-social, coupled with none it can’t be good. (not to mention the P93 is an instant asian-repeller) if u have P74 make sure to use that, can’t go wrong with instant mr.cool effect and it’s hard to OD on it." MX 203+Ammo+A314=Best Class Mix so Far magnum (November 13, 2008): "…From my testing there seems to be an OD with MX203 when i use 3 or more sprays. I noticed that girls get nervous and hold less eye contact, one girl got goosebumps and fumbled with her collar. A few girls that flirted heavily with me when i had 2 sprays on avoided me with 3 sprays… So i noticed that too much MX203 leads to some kind of unapproachability - i am not sure yet if thats due to an increased status effect -it might also be that the smell gets too intense. I need further testing to come to a solid conclusion, but i haven’t gone over 2 sprays after i saw this effect. If my conlusions about status are right i would say you projected too much status as you already used 3x A314 " > [@The pheromone fuelled adventures of Snakeeyes](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-pheromone-fuelled-adventures-of-snakeeyes/7790): > > Where do I begin? A friend of mine who is also a member of this forum, but shall remain unnamed in this post, stumbled across this site a few months back and showed it to me, to which i laughed it off with ridicule, with things like “this stuff will never work”, “pheromones are scams” etc. Then one day I was with this same mate of mine in an outdoor shopping mall, doing some day-gaming, and out of curiosity i decided to try a spray on my wrist of ammunition just to prove him that all these phe… [Journals section] snakeeyesontheparadise (January 25, 2009) found that MX203 can be a status-upper worn on it’s own, especially around women from anglo-saxon backgrounds. Those type of women treated him with more respect and status when he wore MX203 around them. mx203 DEMOLITION + honesty BACKFIRE = draw jayarea (March 2009): "…setup and getup 9:30pm showered fresh ~2s mx203 front neck. the first half spray that usually comes out was a lot bigger than normal, probably .75-.8 of a normal spray, then another full spray. 1s Instant Honesty back neck button down shirt with the top button undone to release more of the 203, nice jeans, nice shoes. basically wanted to make a very good impression on everyone. a simple mix to get a feel for things. i don’t count this as an actual test since i’ve already broken some rules of good testing form, but it was a nice test in itself. no self effects, but i do love game scent. …sarah’s friends enjoyed the mix too. i did not notice any adverse effects with the asian. if anything, she probably loved it just as much as sarah, if not more. all of them leaned in close at first to talk, then after a while, even when it wasn’t necessary to lean in, they leaned in anyway probably to smell the mix. this led to the backfire i’ll cover in the next section. still no negative or weird effects around guys. it could be that my mind was playing tricks on me but i think they got some status hits off it. i stand, they stand; i sit, they sit. as their friends visited them, they worked that status angle from my mix and dhv 'd their way to a good time…" Approachability with P93 and MX203 - status or simply the ‘no fuss, task orientated’ mindset P93 promotes? I have noticed this myself even with only 5 mcg of P93 on: - at times people look at me differently then normal and almost as if I’m not there (and likewise I as the wearer towards other people); - there is some kind of erratic ‘eye contact’ quite consistently happening. I get the feeling both of these effects are related to P93 's effect of almost instantly creating a ‘no fuss, task orientated focus’ (see posts earlier in this thread) - you just don’t feel like having an extended chat a lot of the time with it on and would much rather get on with and finish whatever task you need to do… Concenus: Is P93 better than [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)? Jasx69 (May 10, 2008): “I’ve always used 2 sprays @25mcg and usually later in the day I would top it up with 1 more spray of 25mcg. It seems to be working as long as I have it on as I can tell from my targets when Im talking, if the eye contact drops then I top it up thats when I know somethings changed or wrong, when I have p93 on you can gage your targets they look at you differently then normal as if your not there sometimes or they sometimes dont look you directly in your eyes more like your nose or mouth normal people just look away without p93 with p93 they are still focused on your face but they move around your face quite abit quite erratic. But no more then 3 sprays of 25mcg a day.” Mx203 Report: Possible OD - Female Agitation!? silver7447 (July 18, 2008): "I work in a retail store as a department manager, and i’m always in contact with a bunch of customers and co-workers. I wore mx203 to work the other day and received VERY strange responses. The first thing I noticed was: Multiple customers, when in the middle of asking for my assistance, became tongue tied and lost their train of thought. One of them even going as far as saying “I’m sorry, nevermind, I forgot what I wanted to ask you.” This occurred throughout the day along with the following. Next I noticed something possibly similar to the ghost effect associated with an OD , because I would always greet and smile at entering customers (which is normally received well and reciprocated) but the tendency was for people to walk right past me and not even acknowledge me. The same was noticed among some of my co-workers. I should add that I was NOT wearing any other pheros except for 1 spray of mx203 at 9am, and a second spray at 2pm. Has anyone else had similar experiences or have any ideas what may have caused this?" ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/88 "2009-04-26T20:11:51Z")
> [@phermax](#): > > I think Pheromones work on what feelings your are putting out. So if you are looking for attraction then feel the attraction or seduction or comfort. Pheromones give you confidence to be yourself and put yourself out there to get what you want. I know that they work and the science is there to back it up but it isn’t a wonder drug. You have to put in the work of something like the Mystery Method or the Game. Apple the rules that work for you and leave the rest. Here is my suggestion of product for anyone who is interested in something that has worked for me. > Phermax Pheromones presented by The PheromoneKing have a 100% money back guarantee. You can try them risk free for $9.99. You have nothing to lose except loneliness. > Kisses~ I looked at your site, it appears to be something like Pheralure, where you have a really nice site and very little information about your products. what pheromones are in your products? Inquiring minds want to know what reactions they might find. ---
**Author:** ![mannyman2k9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@mannyman2k9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mannyman2k9)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/89 "2009-04-28T03:45:56Z")
hey guys, I am new to this and i anxious to find out how this works. how do i start with the products and the mix? How long should someone be ‘exposed’ to the scent to have an effect? Where do i get these products? do i get negative results if i mix the wrong products?.. sorry about the newbie questions, i new here and i hope you guys can hook me up with the best mixture of the products… thanks ---
**Author:** ![mannyman2k9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@mannyman2k9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mannyman2k9)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/90 "2009-04-28T03:47:43Z")
hey its me again, whats the difference btw the advanced post and the regular?.. ---
**Author:** ![mannyman2k9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@mannyman2k9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mannyman2k9)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/91 "2009-04-28T06:17:26Z")
love this post… thank ,man you rock 🙂 > [@Gem](#): > > I don’t know pheromones but I do know game - here is my input, take it or leave it. > > It is important to understand the differences within the different sections of the Mystery method model: > > Attraction is A 1 (the opener), A2 (female to male attraction), A3 (Male to female attraction) > > Comfort - Can all be lumped together but is essentially building deeper raport and connection. > > # Seduction, is split into thre but only two are relevent - Getting her horny, and LMR (last minute resistance) > > A 1 - Instant openess, instant female magic or instant shine - baiscally all you are trying to do at this point is get the girl(s) to speak to you you so anything that relaxes her, opens her up or makes her feel good near you will work > > A2 - female to male attraction, I am not going to go into what builds attraction, but I will just say, you don’t want anything that makes her feel comfortable or connected to you (the secret is to make her feel you are better than her or unobtainable) so I suggest Turn Up The Heat or Instant jerk, or maybe even A314 if congruent with your personality. > > A3 - male to female attraction, at this point you want to show her she has won you over (not sexually) baisically this is where you first show attraction by complimenting her you want her to link compliments from you with feeling good so my pheromone of choice would be instant shine or female magic. > > Comfort - deeper raport, deep conversations, connection, shared experiences - Instant openess, Instant shine, Instant honesty… > > Seduction > > S1 - getting her hot, time to TUTH (again), instant jerk, (basically sex pheromones > > S3 - LMR - This is when she wonders if she is doing the right thing (after all she only just met you) You DO NOT want to be winning her over by palying how horny she is feeling off against her will power (that is IMO immoral and inneffective) You want to reassure her - so once again you want some reassuring, feel good products (shine, Honesty, openess) > > Now, that is a fantasy situation - in reality you cannot change and remove pheromones that quickly for example the whole attraction phase can be run within the space of 20 seconds (trust me i have done it) So I suggest you identify your own sticking points within that framework and select the right pheromones from there. For instance my sticking point is A3 - I have no problem opening, I can build attraction easily - too easily that leads to the problem that girls think I am being insincere or playing with them once i begin to take an interest in them - so I would stick to Shine or openess to assist me and not use any sexual pheromones. > > Me personally - I will stay away from any sexual pheromones beyond our first meeting. It jsut seems a bit too much like pressuring someone into doing something they wouldn’t normally do becuase they get too horny and that doesn’t sit well with me. I like to guide all sexual encounters towards a meaningfull lasting relationship (open relationship), so I am prepared to wait and ensure she is 100% happy and has made the decision to escalate sexually with all the facts in place (including the fact that I am a PUA and will not commit to her). But that is just my personal Moral Stance so take it as you will. I would rather sleep well at night even if it means I don’t sleep with a different person each night. once i have already slept with a girl I will certainly use sexual pheromones to spice up the sex. > > The above recommendation is for MM style game (indirect), > > If your style is direct I would recommend just TUTH or Instant Jerk if you can handle it… ---
**Author:** ![Jernizzle456](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@Jernizzle456](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jernizzle456)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/92 "2009-05-18T23:45:55Z")
Hello,does anyone know what the [pheromone blend](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced/experimental/) called A314 is for compared to the other ones. Please let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Jernizzle456](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@Jernizzle456](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jernizzle456)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/93 "2009-05-19T01:31:41Z")
Do the pheromones from androtics direct cause you to smell bad? Please let me know. Thankyou ---
**Author:** ![Jernizzle456](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@Jernizzle456](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jernizzle456)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/94 "2009-05-19T01:45:23Z")
Do pheromones work that well on the opposite sex in attracting them to you? Is it worth spending the money on them. I have never used them before,but I have heard great things about how they can attract the opposite sex. Please let me know. thankyou ---
**Author:** ![Jernizzle456](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@Jernizzle456](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jernizzle456)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/95 "2009-05-19T03:50:12Z")
Hello,has anyone here ever used the pheromones called chikara pheromones. It is rated very highly on the internet. How does it compare to androticsdirect pheromones? Please let me know. Thankyou ---
**Author:** ![Surf70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Surf70](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Surf70)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/96 "2009-05-23T00:26:46Z")
Well I have to say that ordered and all the products work fantasticly. I mean it they really work. The products I used were Ammo, Instant Female magic(discontinued), and turn up the heat. I will go into more detail on each in a later forum. If you are a clubber… Ammo hits the spot. It works everytime and all the time. Instan Female magic(discontinued) is a great door opener. It puts the woman at ease around you and allows them to feel compfortable with you, i.e. non threatening. It is good for everyday use, at the office and out and about. However, only spray it on the back of the neck. do not spray where you can smell it yourself. All the others I have tested are fine but IFM needs to be sprayed on the back of the neck. I put it on my neck the first time and it made me depressed. Not good lol.. Learned my lesson. ---
**Author:** ![Surf70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Surf70](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Surf70)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/97 "2009-05-23T00:33:56Z")
I also used turn up the heat. It works great but also beware it has negative effects around guys. I learned this at work unintentionally…lol So do not wear it to the office. You can wear AMMO and IFM thought no problems there. My wonder mix after months of trial and error’s Out and about/work, or what ever. Two sprays of AMMO to the front of the neck one each side. One spray of Instant Female Majic \ Clubbing Same mix as above but add a little more Ammo and take a pocket size with you for refreshing. And add [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) \ This really works… I think I am going to try Double strength AMMO this time. AMMO buy itself for the economically challanged like me works great. They all do! ---
**Author:** ![DESTINY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@DESTINY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DESTINY)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/98 "2009-05-24T19:47:49Z")
hi [catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17), hey u r the 1st person i am writing …i am new n would like to ask u some or may be manythings… i hope u will cooperate please. i am asian from india age 37 can u please suggest me what phero should i use to be frenk with u i want to attract a lady she is 45 asian. i just bought ammo and turnup the heat… can u please tell me what should i do … how do i start. ---
**Author:** ![Jernizzle456](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@Jernizzle456](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jernizzle456)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/99 "2009-05-24T20:22:29Z")
Honestly,I would suggest trying out someone else to this forum. I am new to the world of pheromones,but I can tell you one thing that this pheromone company adrioticsdirect sells the real deal as far as pheromones go and they should really help out with atracting the female you are trying to attract. I would also suggest buying a very good designer cologne in addition to the pheromones. I can tell you one that stop women in there track’s in a heartbeat. Buy this cologne. It will attract women like a magnet. It is called issey miyake. They make different cologne’s. The one you wan’t to buy was produced in 1994, It is called Leo’ d’ issey. It is a very sexy,romantic and mature scent. It is by far the best cologne on the market. Buy this cologne. Your Welcome, Jeremy Belcastro ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832/100 "2009-05-25T09:57:19Z")
> [@Jernizzle456](#): > > Do the pheromones from androtics direct cause you to smell bad? Please let me know. > Thankyou No, never. Just follow the advice on the forums though. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832.md?page=6)